DAE DUTCH ANTILLES INFO????

[atila_101]

Hi everyone there!!!

Does anyone of you have some info about this cia. called DAE based in dutch antilles, aircrafts, rosters, payments, etc, etc, ....
They offer to finance yourself a TR in case you do not have one which fits woth the fleet they fly, are they serious? I do no want to lose more money than the necessary.
I have 200 TT and would fly anything, understand if such an offer apperas one would accept.

Thanks to all who can apport something.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[trainer too 2]

A great little airline in an area of the world you love to life. Previous owners doddgy current set up and management much better.

good luck

[european champion]

It sounds like a good deal.What types do they fly?would they give guaranteed employment to someone who pays for the rating?

[Lil' Pilot]

Currently they operate 3x ATR42's. They operate just a couple of routes... Curacao, Bonaire, Aruba, St. Martin and Valencia. As I understand it's good fun flying for them. Heard something of jets (F70/100?), and expanding so it looks good you would say. They're looking for ATR, Fokker Capt's and F/O's. Type-rating costs varies for type of aircraft. PM me if you would like some more details. Overall it seems a good company, in a wonderful environment...and of course you'll be flying!

Good luck guys :ok:

[OM inbound]

Can anyone share the cost of living in Dutch Antilles? The cost of housing, food, etc.

DAE is looking for DEC on ATR and they are offerring 4000 USD.

Thanks

OM inbound

[wingmaaan]

Currently they operate 3x ATR42's. They operate just a couple of routes... Curacao, Bonaire, Aruba, St. Martin and Valencia. As I understand it's good fun flying for them. Heard something of jets (F70/100?), and expanding so it looks good you would say. They're looking for ATR, Fokker Capt's and F/O's. Type-rating costs varies for type of aircraft. PM me if you would like some more details. Overall it seems a good company, in a wonderful environment...and of course you'll be flying!

Good luck guys :ok:

hi there,

i also would appriciate any information about the company....can´t get any information out of their homepage or even an application form....can you help??

thanks :ok:

[nopoal]

So do I. Thank you for sharing the info?


Nice flights

flaps 15% :cool:

[FougaMagister]

Also, does anybody know where selections take place? While I wouldn't mind working there ;) , getting the necessary time off and going there at my expense just for an interview and a couple of technical exams is a bit naff... then again, if it's done in the Netherlands, it's another matter!

It has been mentioned they do a Jeppesen Airway Manual test... what's that? Anything to do with the JAA ATPL Flight Planning exam? They also say the selection process CAN include a sim check ride; is it only for non-type rated applicants or for everyone? Anybody knows on what sim?

Thanx for the answers! :cool:

[wingmaaan]

ok buddies,

i found out why i could not get any information about the company...cuz dutch antilles express is the airlines new name...try www.bonaire.com...that should give some information...:ok:

once i applied,they cam back to me one week later saying:" if you are still intetestead and available,please let me know as soon as possible by e-mail. i will contact you then and inform you about the procedure"....that´s it,this was 3 weeks ago and nothing happened...did anyone receive the same reply???

thankful for any information on this....

[atila_101]

hi wingmaan

I reeived the same reply almost 4 weeks ago, i wrote them and said i'm available but nothing yet.
I suppose I will write them again asking if it's still going on or what...

Nice landings.
Atila.

[wingmaaan]

hi atila,

do so and let me know what you found out, guess it´s enough if one of us rings them up...:ok:

what do you know about dae??
do you know anything about their selection-process??

[european champion]

I have received an answer from them confirming that they have received my application but since then no further correspondance.Anyone found out if recruitment is still on?

[Captain Volmer]

They ask 20000 Euro for Type Rting and plus 15000 as bond for 3 years.
Total 35000 euro
Regards

[european champion]

Thanks for the info.Should i wait for them to contact me or give them a call?Do u know how many fos they need?

[FougaMagister]

They also ask for a 10,000 Euro/3 year-bond for type-rated applicants... How they can justify that I don't know!

Cheers :cool:

[atila_101]

I just received an email on friday night.

The Fokker course starts on April the 10th and the ATR course starts on April the 20th. and also received some info about where to put the money in case I accept the conditions. Maybe it's quite interesting if nothing else.
But I think it can be quite precipitated, the first course starts in less than one week.

Greetings.
Atila.

[MD12]

Same for me

[wingmaaan]

and same for me,
that is definitely too early,i told them and asked for a later appointment to start, so far no reply..:confused:

[european champion]

That sounds a bit strange!I thought they were supposed to do assesment tests and interviews.Did you guys do any of these?It just seem to me strange that they expect a guy that they have never seen to send him a contract,ask him to put money into their account and send him for training with such short notice!

[FougaMagister]

Champion, pls read and clear your PM box. It's full.

Cheers :cool:

[european champion]

Anyone has any idea where they do their training?Is it done in Europe?Also what license is required?I dont have an MCC yet,is it included in their training?

[South34]

Pilots be carefull !!
Im not sure if DAE is a clean company...(Im sorry DAE, but you can reply if you like to tell the truth...)

Lets start with passenger ticket prices... that is were DAE seem to have it source of income or am I not complete here? Maybe a little mail/cargo here and there... Or do you chew on a pilot-payed-rating a bit?

Now lets add up just the cost off the salery's of the pilots and flightattendants...

EJ thats funny... you can't even cover crew salery's with pax tickets??

So who pays for the aircrafts? Who pays the fuel, landing fee's and maintenance?Who pays for the office, office personell.....
COME ON... tell me tell me....

I would love to come and fly for you....so I hope you can clarify a few money issues....
Must be great living on a Caribbean island...

[european champion]

South34 how do you know how much they make from passenger tickets?Do you know the amount of passengers they carry or will be carrying?

[Midway]

yeah south, I am curious to that as well, everybody has their doubts/questions about this company, but is your information founded on facts or hearsay, rumours etc.?? (don't get me wrong, I don't know anything about the company so it is not an attack to you, just a question to get more details, but I would like them to be based on facts, not rumours or personal opinions for whatever reason)

[european champion]

Anyone has any latest correspondence or knows when they would possibly start their training,it seems that it will be delayed for some time.

[wingmaaan]

...no further information,asked for an later appointment, but no response to date...strange..:suspect:

QUOTE=european champion]Anyone has any latest correspondence or knows when they would possibly start their training,it seems that it will be delayed for some time.[/QUOTE]

[european champion]

Any news about recruitment,it seems to be very quiet.Have they bought the aircrafts?Did they start any training?

[MercenaryAli]

A company in Majorca several years ago started up and "recruited" 12 disciples! They were a little wet behind the ears but apparently all paid around 15000 euros to the company to type rate them on the Shorts SD3-60 which was supposed to carry freight between Majorca and Madrid. the Chief Pilot was a Spaniard, whose name eludes me right now however, he people skills were non existent and when it came to rules and regulations he knew only "Que?".
Some expat crews, myself amongs them, were recruited as a stop gap to start the operation and to my knowledge these poor guys who bankrolled the operation never did get any training much less a type rating. The aircraft was leased and the owner probaby never got paid, the engineer is still owed money and so are others I am told.
You young guys out there please be careful before you part with any of your hard earned money. Tell them you want to SEE the product before you BUY.
I heard there was a company trying to set up in Aruba with Short SD3-60 aircraft, Tiara Air i think.
Anyone know about them?
Best of luck.

[Midway]

They would start operating 2 F100 aircraft in April 2006 later I heard they would try one 737. Does anybody know if they have new aircraft??

[Standing by.....]

OK, keep your money in your pockets 'cause it does stink in Bonaire. Just check who the investers are and were in the exel-days..... not much has changed and their machine keeps on washing and their laundry keeps on spinning around (any idea why??? **ding**ding** Wake up!!)
The operation is mediocer, and management-style is still the same as in the early days.(only new managers came in but nothing really changed)
A jet? yeah that will be the day that you can start counting for 90 days before the payments have to be made and the plug will be pulled out of DAE.(oh wait, all of the sudden another 10 million pops up out of nowhere.)
Guys for real, swing by there if you are type rated and want some fun in the sun. If you like, stay for 3 years (doubt you will though) but just keep your money in your pockets, do your homework (even on this web-site from the Exel-days) and you'll be looking for another company very quickly.
Good luck with the training on the F-100 , 737 ,space shuttle, or whatever they wish to use. I just hope it is worth it for you all, and that a brighter future lies ahead!

[MercenaryAli]

Anyone got any information of this operation yet? Aruba I believe.

[propilotifr]

TIARA AIR WOW BE CAREFULL

[lilflyboy262...2]

Holy resurrection batman. Only 8yrs late with that Gem of a reply.