View Full Version : And you thought the 380 was big!

Rick Storm
15th Feb 2006, 08:51
Check this baby out, link to story....

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/whatsnew/18ac893302839010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html?s_prop18=whats new

Desert Whine
15th Feb 2006, 09:16
Moby's starting his own airline..???

15th Feb 2006, 10:12
The airship takes off and lands like a helicopter: straight up and down.


Aeroscraft is not lighter than air. Its 14 million cubic feet of helium hoist only two thirds of the craft's weight.

Sounds like landing will be easier than taking off (vertically) :}

Vertical Propulsion
15th Feb 2006, 10:38
"The company envisions a cargo-carrying version that could deliver a store's worth of merchandise from a centralized distribution center straight to a Wal-Mart parking lot"

Rough Math leads me to believe that the 6 lifting engines will be providing in the order of 440,625lbs of thrust, might make a mess of the car park.

15th Feb 2006, 11:09
Does that mean MobyAir stock's going to balloon?

15th Feb 2006, 11:47
It should be fun watching it come into LHR (or even the Port of Southampton) on a breezy day.

And whilst it might not need a runway, at 647ft long, it'll need a 'swinging' circle of at least twice that when parked, uhmmm, I mean berthed, no, tethered...

One last thought. With all those staterooms and ensuites, where's all the water for showers, baths and jacuzzis going to come from? Will there be some sort of 'cloud-catching' device up front? :confused:

15th Feb 2006, 11:49
Buy it now to avoid inflation.:O

Oh, that one hurt.

15th Feb 2006, 11:52
That size, and only 250 pax, you wouldnŽt just get a room or a suite, you could have a complete wing......

IŽll get my coat....

Onan the Clumsy
15th Feb 2006, 12:06
Its 14 million cubic feet of helium hoist only two thirds of the craft's weightIt'd be even lighter if they took the Helium out :8

15th Feb 2006, 12:14
I heard the Russians are thinking about mining the moon for helium (http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4700868.stm?markResults=true&a_01=2&a_02=4&a_03=3&a_04=4&a_05=3&a_06=1&a_07=4&a_08=2&a_09=2&x=37&y=8)...so maybe they're behind this airship?! :ok:

15th Feb 2006, 12:21
8000ft across the Ocean? How do you de-ice an Airship?

15th Feb 2006, 12:32
Hot air....?!

Windy Militant
15th Feb 2006, 12:45
Hmm As long as they keep a couple of Tigermoths* on board in case of Accidents eh! :ok:

Aren't the Russians and the Chinese going after Helium 3 for fuelling fusion reactors not the common or garden lifting gas varity!

* Rent a copy of Thunderbird Six from your local DVD/Video store.

15th Feb 2006, 12:52
He's re-invented Thunderbird 2

15th Feb 2006, 14:47
Result of a condom-inflating contest?

15th Feb 2006, 19:01
I still can't find one big enough!! :ok:

15th Feb 2006, 20:12
I still can't find one big enough!! :ok: When they say 'stretch over the organ' that's not what they mean!

15th Feb 2006, 20:32
"Rough Math leads me to believe that the 6 lifting engines will be providing in the order of 440,625lbs of thrust, might make a mess of the car park."

...and the snow they talk about landing on. :uhoh:

Buster Hyman
15th Feb 2006, 21:12
Room for a smokers lounge perhaps...

15th Feb 2006, 21:39
Late in the 19th Century a guy called MacDonald built an aerial machine like this, although not as big, and flew it a few years before the Wrights. It had an internal combustion engine I think, but it might have been steam powered. It had small wings and depended on forward motion to develop enough lift to fly. It was, arguably, the first controlled powered flight, although I know of a few other candidates as well.
There is a museum next door to the SFO airport, run by Hiller Aviation, that has a display including pictures of this machine and others developed in the San Francisco area, that is well worth the visit. (Hiller.org).

henry crun
15th Feb 2006, 21:39
Ah, the airship in the news again.
It surfaces every 10-15 years, usually by someone who has little idea about the problems there would be operating one.

Someone builds a small scale model/sketch accompanied by grandiose plans of what the full size one would be capable of.
The press pick it up and run with it for a short while, then the idea is quietly shelved when the enormous amount of money required is not forthcoming because the impracticality of the whole scheme.

15th Feb 2006, 21:57
No, I thought 32G was big.

Cleans glasses. Oops.

Where's me coat?

Two's in
15th Feb 2006, 22:41
Cargolifter Gmbh went there in Berlin about 10 years, DM30M of taxpayers loot, and a few broken careers ago.

Lon More
16th Feb 2006, 01:42
This two-football-fields-long concept airship is the brainchild of Igor Pasternak, whose privately-funded California firm, Worldwide Aeros Corporation, is in the early stages of developing a prototype and expects to have one completed by 2010.

Another pipe dream from California, the land of fruits and nuts.

16th Feb 2006, 02:31
Thanks for the laugh. It reminds me of a Bruce McCall drawing.

Howard Hughes
16th Feb 2006, 05:59
Another pipe dream from California, the land of fruits and nuts.
Whilst an airship of this size may be a pipe dream, so was the 747!! It all has to start somewhere, this company does already seem to make some impressive mahines.... http://www.aerosml.com/company.asp

Cheers, HH.:ok:

Remember they said the Sprucegoose would never fly too!!;)

Lon More
16th Feb 2006, 12:36
Howard Hughed wrote;Aeros has pioneered many of the breakthroughs in lighter-than-air technology: Lots of claims there with no facts to back it up. I rest my case. :)

16th Feb 2006, 16:00
if they weren't captivated by the view, the cavernous interior would easily accommodate such amenities as luxury staterooms, restaurants, even a casino.
If the cost per pax-mile were similar (as I suspect they might be if it worked), I would certainly entertain the idea of spending 18 hours of my vacation time travelling this way for a nice change.

However, I have a nasty feeling that, if ever something like this was to be practical, airlines would use the space to haul a few thousand pax in economy-class seating:( (have you heard this story before?)

17th Feb 2006, 02:40
Would you be entitled to more airmiles when flying on this

17th Feb 2006, 06:23
Jeez, April 1st already? :D

17th Feb 2006, 09:11
Didn't I see a bunch in Germany talk of something similar, if smaller? I remeber reading ads for engineers in the back of F.I. a few years back. Is that still going?

As for this, it's nothing more than hot air and too much laughing gas!