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Guern
13th Feb 2006, 22:55
Ok probably going to open myself up to loads of ridicule here but I am seriously considering a Smart Fortwo as a second car. Normal car for out of town work but the Smart for the times I need to nip to meetings where they have tight parking areas or when I have to find a space in town.

Over the last couple of weeks I have got increasingly grumpy (the Mrs says it is my age!) when I have seen spaces that a smart would fit in but my normal motor wouldn't. Normally right outside of where I need to be! Instead I end up drving round looking for a space and parking miles from where I want to be.

Anyone here got one, or had one? Any thoughts good or bad.
Cheers
Guern

Alpine Flyer
13th Feb 2006, 23:14
Drove one once and was astonished that the "ride quality" is actually quite good. The automatic shift was quite slow and lorries seem to to touch your *ss.

Well built, but no long-time experience, as it was a rental.

Guern
13th Feb 2006, 23:18
Thanks.

Our speed limit is 35mph and the size of lorries is not to much of a worry.

Perhaps I should have mentioned that in my intial post.

Just wondering what they are like to drive?

Richard Spandit
13th Feb 2006, 23:26
I test drove both the for-2 and the roadster. The roadster was a lot of fun, the for-2 less so, but not a fair comparison. Very easy to drive, I'm tempted myself. Can't imagine it's going to be great on the motorway, but for around town driving you have a fairly high seating position, great economy and a reasonable amount of luggage space. Combined with the low insurance, tax etc. I can see why it is an attractive prospect.

Guern
13th Feb 2006, 23:30
We don't have any motorways so that isn't an issue for me.

Roadster looks nice two.

Onan the Clumsy
13th Feb 2006, 23:58
can you post a picture...and what island?

Guern
14th Feb 2006, 00:10
Picture of what? Island is Guernsey Channel Islands

Jo Cover
14th Feb 2006, 00:14
Have rented on long term the orgional Smart and what a cracking little car that was! If I didn't have to do the miles I have to drive at the moment, I definitly would buy one myself!

Rent one for a week or two, its well worth it.

(and if you do buy one I know a guy who tunes them to a very high standard!)

Onan the Clumsy
14th Feb 2006, 00:18
Picture of what?*sigh* the car :p

Phil Hudson
14th Feb 2006, 00:47
http://www.bureauangenent.nl/smart/images/foto_smart_normaal.jpg
http://www.bureauangenent.nl/smart/images/foto_smart_Halftrack.jpg
http://www.bureauangenent.nl/smart/images/foto_smart_diablo.jpg
http://www.bureauangenent.nl/smart/images/foto_smart_trike.jpg
:ok:

Buster Hyman
14th Feb 2006, 02:15
The problem with parking the Smart where normal cars wouldn't fit is that the normal cars either side are going to have a hell of a time getting out, without a new hood ornament!

Onan the Clumsy
14th Feb 2006, 02:17
Thankyou Phil. I thought that might be the one.

It would only be a matter of time before I died if I had one over here, but given the right location I'd like one.

Buster Hyman
14th Feb 2006, 02:20
...Like Oompah-Loompah land?

Onan the Clumsy
14th Feb 2006, 02:25
I went to the website for what looked like an American dealer. They had this extrodinary competition...

Smart Clients can purchase a raffle ticket to win a new...Corvette
wtf? such wonderful self promoters

Loose rivets
14th Feb 2006, 03:59
There was the French equivalent of a bloke at Toulouse, who had one parked in his space on most days. The odd times that it wasn't there, there was a newish Ferrari. Now, that's the kind of mix that makes good sense.

Spuds McKenzie
14th Feb 2006, 06:41
Hmm... No crumple zone on that Fart Smortwo.
You'd be tossed off the road like a football.
:uhoh:

GreenWings
14th Feb 2006, 08:15
http://www.bureauangenent.nl/smart/images/foto_smart_Halftrack.jpg
:ok:
Cool as it is, I wouldnt choose the Halftrack if you live on Guernsey, the locals might think the Wehrmacht have invaded again...;)
GW

Rollingthunder
14th Feb 2006, 08:19
Has anyone done any serious crash tests on this thing?

Spuds McKenzie
14th Feb 2006, 08:26
Crash test 1 (http://www.mynrma.com.au/city_03_smartcity.asp)

Crash test 2 (http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/040908.htm)

Ropey Pilot
14th Feb 2006, 08:27
Good for city centre living too! Knew a couple who only had 1 car parking space under their apartment - 2 smart cars fitted beautifully

Grainger
14th Feb 2006, 08:33
So long as you can put up with all the jokes -

" 'ere mate, where's the rest of it ?"

"Did you know someone's stolen the back half of your car ?"

"Shrank in the wash, did it ?"

and various wheelbarrow / roller skate based humour - you should be OK.

Maybe you can park around the corner and sneak back to your house while no-one's looking ! :p

flugholm
14th Feb 2006, 08:44
Hmmmmm... I rented one for one day a couple of months ago. 300 km of autobahn... I guess that's just not what they are intended for!
Am I the only one who's not really impressed with the Smart?!
:confused:
No, I'm not! The German motorists club ADAC lists it on place 17 (out of 23) in the small cars class in its breakdown statistic.
http://www.adac.de/Auto_Motorrad/pannenstatistik_maengelforum/pannenstatistik_2004/kleine_Klasse/default.asp?ComponentID=113325&SourcePageID=113507
And in its customer satisfaction survey they found that Smart customers are the least likely to buy a car of the same manufacturer again. (Sorry, I can't find the link for this, tho'.)

Curious Pax
14th Feb 2006, 09:22
If you do get one, and head for the mainland then don't take it to Knowsley Safari Park. I'm not making this up: apparently whilst the lions ignore most cars, they attack Smart cars! My theory is that they are conditioned to prey on the injured or the young, as being easier targets, and must assume that a Smart Car is a baby car!

Mudfoot
14th Feb 2006, 09:49
My business' sister office is in Hamburg, and I go there every other year at least. I saw the Smart in '98 and thought the concept was great since Hamburg is rather tight, so on a return visit in 2003 (after dropping the misses home in the States) I traded "down" to a Smart from a Golf TDI. I enjoyed the Smart. It's definitely not made for the Autobahn, what with a top speed of 135 kph which is approx, oh, lets see, carry the one and divide by whatever-it-is, about 85 mph. Late January this year, I saw one on the A7 south from, um, the peninsula between the North and Baltic seas, and he was following an 18-wheeler - actually he was drafting the truck just to keep up with traffic. But I digress - I like the style (Mrs. M thinks it's "f-ugly"), it sounds like a Ferrari (at least inside - somewhat loud) it handled good and solid, braked straight, good stereo. Down side: noisy, not a double-date car, no spare tire (sorry, tyre...) but a nifty patching kit, tailgaters appear to be sitting in the non-existant rear seat. They're not in the States yet, but I can't wait til they are 'cos I WANT ONE!!!
Cheers, y'all.

Buster Hyman
14th Feb 2006, 09:50
Crash test 3 (http://www.doubledot.net/images/boston/red_bull_art_of_the_can/IMG_3823.jpg) Stop motion photos of test highlighting crumple zones.

angels
14th Feb 2006, 10:36
Having driven around Guernsey recently I would say that it's just the sort of motor you want. Genuine question, but how long do tyres/wheels last in Guernsey?? Every five minutes you have to mount the kerb/pavement (when one exists) to let other traffic through.

I haven't looked at the economy figures but what with the low price of fuel in Guernsey I imagine you could potter about the island on a tenner a month!

That said, if you do plan getting the grossly overpriced ferry to the mainland with it, don't spend too long on motorways!

G-CPTN
14th Feb 2006, 10:58
Got to be a suitable version here:-
http://www.bureauangenent.nl/smart/

Jo Cover
14th Feb 2006, 11:38
There was a test carried out by either top gear or 5th gear about a year ago where a Smart was driven into a motorway central reserve concrete block at 70 MPH (not kph) and the car survived pretty well. I seem to remember the teams conclusions were that you would be better off involved in a crash of such ferocity in a Smart rather than a Corsa which they tested along side at the same speeds.

And how many Corsa's are there on the road? I know which I would rather have.

its good to be Smart!:ok:

Onan the Clumsy
14th Feb 2006, 11:55
Crash tests 4 through 8

http://www.cooksville.com/images/scrap.jpg

Gingerbread Man
14th Feb 2006, 12:05
There's a barber where I live that has one and parks it nose-in at the side of the road. So if you have problems with parallel parking then...

Onan the Clumsy
14th Feb 2006, 12:21
If I lived in a city...you know what I mean, I'd definately get one...well look at them at least.

frostbite
14th Feb 2006, 12:27
It's always looked like a part purchase to me - when you can afford it, you buy the bit to bolt on the back.

Guern
14th Feb 2006, 18:03
Angels

Driving here takes some getting used to! Usually manage to stay off the pavement unless I meet a bus coming the other way and that' s in my Civic. So tyres and wheels last ok once you get the hang of it.

Will still have a proper car just fancy the smart for nipping into St Peter Port as spaces are hard to find.

ExSimGuy
14th Feb 2006, 18:15
Rented one (four-two) for a weekend last Autumn, for a trip from Brighton to Bath and Gloucestershire and back. Did some M-Way driving and it was reasonably useful, though took a gear change if the road was uphill. "Weekend luggage" for twwo fitted the boot without putting anything in the back seats

Given the right circumstances I'd be happy with one - even for fairly long runs. But I have to keep my 5.2 V8 Jeep here as I often have to tow 3 tonnes or so - can't see the Smart managing that!