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ex_matelot
12th Feb 2006, 18:15
Before I left the mob I spent my last few months in charge of the naval museum in Southyard,Devonport dockyard.The hangmans cell where the French prisoners we hung was on my rounds.A couple of years ago a bbc team of ghostbusters spent the night there and I ended up having to escort one of the women journalists out of the dockyard as she 'freaked out'.They left mant little bits of testing equipment behind such as white powder to place by doorways and a tray of marbles.Once when locking up the ropery for the night I moved the marbles about a bit,thinking nothing of it...until the following morning when I noticed they were definately not in the same position as Id left them.

Never saw anything but there is a definate presence to be felt there.

edusaeanna
12th Feb 2006, 18:17
I was sceptical until a certain sighting at Lexxington Mansion, so now do indeed believe in their existence.

BellEndBob
12th Feb 2006, 18:34
I do believe in 'Ghosts', but not as the dear departed walking the earth. I think, one day, science will prove that what we see are natural recordings of individuals or events. Could be triggered by traumatic experiences etc but could also be down to the local environment.
Boring, I know but that's what I think.

Jerricho
12th Feb 2006, 18:37
Actually BellEnd, not that boring at all.

Hasn't there been some research into VLF/LF radio transmissions that are still supposedly bouncing around the globe from the wars? Explains "ghost recordings" if the conditions are just right.

BellEndBob
12th Feb 2006, 18:52
Jerricho

Had not heard of that. Took my kids on a Ghost tour of York a few years back. Great fun and we went to a house that had a 'haunted' cellar. Apparently, every so often, Roman Soldiers would march through the cellar. Only the top halves of their bodies could be seen above the floor. Would seem that the ground had been much lower in those days. Also, they did not vary their activity at all, lending more weight to the 'recording' theory.

Jerricho
12th Feb 2006, 19:01
Done the same tour BellEnd :ok:

I have mentioned before I do love a good ghost story, and have heard some great ones, some which are a little on the questionable side, and some others that do certainly cause a shiver down the spine (very dependent on who the "story teller" is). As much as I hate to admit it, I even get a kick out of watching Yvette Oldlove doing "Most Haunted" (and when she gets scared the posh accent drops real quick).

You can put me down for a "Yes"

Romeo Delta
12th Feb 2006, 19:10
Ghosts yes... And even more than the "recording" that some are talking about.

My father passed away in 1984 when I was 16. We had a 3-story house at the time, and until his passing my father occupied the downstairs floor (the mid floor was mine, and my mother had the upstairs). On a couple occasions (once while away, and once overnight) the furniture downstairs had been rearranged. I think it was his little way of reminding us he was there.

On a different occasion just this past year, my former ladyfriend and I took a tour through the "haunted" house of Lizzie Borden in New Bedford, Mass. ("Lizzie Borden took and axe, gave her father 40 whacks...") There was a palpable feeling in the air throughout the house, and in the two rooms where the murders took place (father and mother), I became physically ill. It wasn't until after we'd left the house that my ladyfriend had admitted to me that she too had become ill while in those rooms (and those rooms only).

That's not coincidence. Not to me, at least.

Captain Sand Dune
12th Feb 2006, 19:15
My missus reckons she can see "spirits" and suchlike (I keep telling her that it's more like the bottled variety:} ).
The last occurrence was when we witnessed a fatal car smash. She said she saw the poor buggas' "spirit" leave the body. Sure enough, when I got to him he was stone dead.:sad:

Farmer 1
12th Feb 2006, 19:26
Of all the millions of ghostly sightings claimed, no one has ever produced a photograph of a ghost. To this day, there is not a shred of scientific proof that they exist, or even can exist. If you are frightened of the impossible, then you are a fool.

Me - I'm petrified, having had the back hairs rise on a few occasions.

tall and tasty
12th Feb 2006, 19:29
I believe and even baby sat in a house with a cellar which was the children's paly room, I could not go down there and felt sick and cold each and every time I had to. The hairs on the back of my head would stand up and I would shake but I had to for the children. The house near hang mans tree where they used to bring the hung bodies of the criminals to rest before they were buried., I found out that years after I finished baby sitting for the children. They were always happy down there and never seemed frightened and to be honest children sense presences more than adults. I have walked into a house where I could not enter the master bedroom cold as ice, and refused to live there and found out the owner had killed herself in that room.

I have friend who live in a haunted 15th centuray house with their own poltigist, he is ok most of the time just throws childrens toys around so is bearable.

My mother could see a ghost of a nun in her boarding school when she was little, she used to walk to the end of her bed and shake it and then leave through the wall. This nun apparently stopped or woke my mother from sleepwalking out of an upstairs window, if she had climbed out it was a long way down to a paved courtyard!

Yes I believe

TnT

goshdarnit
12th Feb 2006, 19:44
Glad to see all these believers, thought I was alone! People said I was gullible!
I have actual photographic evidence to backup the existence of ghosts and for only £50 I will send a copy...

:hmm: GDI

VFE
12th Feb 2006, 19:49
I am with BellEndBob on this one with regards aparitions.

Certain materials may be more permeable than others and under certain atmospherical conditions may absorb the image of certain events for later projection under the same atmospheric conditions. It is a ropey theory but who's to say? The unknown, by definition, is unknown ennit! :}

Know a few people of sound mind who claim to have experienced ghosts. I am of the opinion that some minds are capable of locking into the 'frequency channel' better than others. I am also pretty sure that it's the same area accountable for dreams...

My own spooky story is that one night I dreamt that a figure grabbed my hand and whisked me off into the air, over the hills, skybound and accelerating as we flew away until the force of acceleration became too much for me to maintain my grip on the figure and I slipped back down to earth as 'he' zoomed off towards the heavens. I landed and walked straight into my late grandparents house (I had the misfortune of discovering my late grandfather when he died in said house a few years previously). All of a sudden the house metamophisised into an air traffic control tower and I woke up! I sat in bed and recall being amazed at how vivid the feeling of acceleration had been in the dream - just like a real life experience - and the fear as I lost grip on the figure carrying me off.

I got dressed and went to work as usual that day with 1950's rock and roll playing on my walkman which is unusual for me. It was a grey day and I felt in a strange mood due to the vivid dream. At 10am that morning I was interupted at work to be told that my uncle, who was a keen aviation enthusiast had passed suddenly that night and I was to return home immediately.

Now, the parts what strike me as odd about that dream are that the figure was unrecognisable but I somehow 'knew' it was a close family member but couldn't say 'who' when I awoke. The part about my grandparents house featuring in the dream seems to me to be resurected in connection with discovering my grandfathers body in that house because whenever I think about their house that is the event which I now sadly recall. A coded 'message' hinting at death perhaps? The aviation aspect is self explainatory as my uncle was aviation mad (and I'm now lucky enough to have part of his aviation library gathering dust at my house!) and he was also a keen 1950's rock and roll fan. All rather uncanny you could say.

Then again, it could all be a coincidence! :bored:

VFE.

tilewood
12th Feb 2006, 20:06
About forty years ago I moved with my parents and sister into an old
farm house in Essex, 350 years old to be precise.

We hadn't been there many days when there was an overpowering scent
in one part of the living room. My mother and I could smell it, in fact it was
so strong we could almost touch it. It was very localised within the room
and one could walk through it and out the other side, as though it was a narrow band. It was a strange, almost floral smell,yet neither
my father or sister ever smelled it.

It would disappear for days, sometimes weeks, then return at full strength,
and without saying a word my mum and I would look at each other and
we both knew it was back, but no else ever detected it.

Then it was gone, it didn't fade or become less frequent, it just stopped.

We have never been able to explain it. :ooh:

tilewood
12th Feb 2006, 20:12
goshdarnit

Can I order a copy of your ghost photos.

Upon receipt I will forward your £50 fee via my spectral ectoplasm
medium. :hmm:

frostbite
12th Feb 2006, 20:14
'As I was walking down the stairs, I met a man who wasn't there'.....etc. Now where does that come from?

VFE
12th Feb 2006, 20:16
On some rare occasions when I have just climbed into bed I can hear the sound of Flumpy, our old house trained rabbit, scratching at my bedroom door. It happens when I have just climbed into bed so no question of being asleep on this one.

Flumpy died about 8 years ago. :hmm:

VFE. **okay, I'm clearly insane!**

goshdarnit
12th Feb 2006, 20:27
VFE

ever had the local exterminator in? (Exterminator, NOT exorcist)

tilewood
12th Feb 2006, 20:32
frostbite

.......He wasn't there again today,
Oh how I wish he'd go away!"

A rhyme by Hughes Mearnes. More than that I don't know.

Jerricho
12th Feb 2006, 20:32
Care to extrapolate a little reference your picture proof Goshdarnit? :hmm:

Happyeater
12th Feb 2006, 20:40
Anyone interested in this stuff, I recommend 'The Scole Experiment' off Amazon. I was sceptical but wanting to know if 'anything is there' and now I firmly believe there is.

goshdarnit
12th Feb 2006, 20:48
Jerry,
extrapolating costs an extra £50, and I only do it on Thursdays...

Jerricho
12th Feb 2006, 22:19
Awwww go on.........

Give us a hint.

Keef
12th Feb 2006, 22:58
When I was a lad, we lived in a farmhouse with gas lighting (electricity hadn't reached outlying Essex villages then). There was a gas lamp in my bedroom, and I had a box of matches to light the light.

One night I woke up in the pitch dark and thought I heard a strange noise. I reached out for the matches to light the lamp, and the matches were put into my hand.

Davaar
12th Feb 2006, 23:02
frostbite:

William Hughes Mearns
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William Hughes Mearns (1875-1965) was an English teacher and poet.

An English teacher, Mearns wrote two books, Creative Youth 1925, and Creative Power 1929. He also served for a time (starting in 1920 as head of the Lincoln School Teachers' College at Columbia University, He was also a proponent of John Dewey's work in progressive education. He is considered to be the first teacher of creative writing (as specific class title). His poems are often cited as Hugh Mearns.

Mearns is credited with the relatively well-known rhyme:

Yesterday upon the stair
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today
I wish that man would go away.
Antigonish, 1899
Another:

As I was sitting in my chair,
I knew the bottom wasn't there,
Nor legs nor back, but I just sat,
Ignoring little things like that.

tony draper
12th Feb 2006, 23:50
Only ever heard one account re a ghost (well supernatural creature)from a person that I believed 100%,one cannot possibly recount it here as it is way to terrifying and past many prooner bedtimes
:uhoh:

Loose rivets
13th Feb 2006, 05:22
I have had four experiences that I can't explain. One was very frightening, the others were simply mystifying, one being more UFO ish than ghostly.

Since the Rosenheim investigation, I have an open mind, but one would have to readjust one's understanding of physics to accept the findings of this string of events.

WOW just found a site with a pic of the girl and THE chandelier.

http://www.ufopsi.com/psidc/rosenheim_poltergeist.html

this is thought to be the single most investigated occurrence ever...at least by qualified people.

Edit. I seem to remember that prior to working in that office, she worked in a......bowling ally. she did not tell her employers what had happened previously!!

tilewood
13th Feb 2006, 07:01
Reading the location of a number of these posts it would
appear that Essex is the supernatural centre of England.

Spooky!! :ooh:

MyData
13th Feb 2006, 07:18
Absolutely not... I would need to see firm evidence and facts, not just hearsay and experiences.

However... when I was 17ish we were at a friend's house having a party when the parents were away. One of the girls was known at college, always dressed in black, 'into' satan etc. So we thought it would be a laugh to get a Ouji board going.

We were having a bit of fun, the room was quiet, and during the session a cassette tape box fell over on the nearby dresser. This was spooky as there was nothing to explain this - no movement in the room, no drafts, no music or vibrations of any sort. It spooked us out, but then egged us on.

The message from the 'spirits' was that a close friend would soon die. Yeah, right. Now back to the beer and music and the party.

Three months later a close friend of one of us in the session did indeed die in a motorcycle accident. The girl in black was adamant that this proved that there are spirits beyond the physical world that we should respect. I shrugged and thought it very sad that some one would die, but inevitably we will all die, and how long was 'soon'? 3 months, 6 months, 2 years??

I haven't messed with a Ouji board since though!

bulolobob
13th Feb 2006, 07:48
Shortly after the outbreak of WWII my Father's brother joined the RAF. Father stayed on in Northern Ireland to work the family farm. The Authorities at the time were keen to maximise farm output and asked that every available spot of land be turned to food production. An inspector visited the farm and ordered that a Blackthorn bush be removed and the ground planted.

Father protested saying that Irish legend had it that if a Blackthorn bush was removed there would be a death in the family. However after much arument he complied and the next afternoon a telegram arrived saying his brother Jack had been shot down and killed in his aircraft.

I now beleive the legend!
BB

Doors to Automatic
13th Feb 2006, 08:39
Apparently ghosts are not limited to ground level:


'Scream' haunts BA jet
By JOHN KAY
Chief Reporter

A BRITISH Airways crew are being spooked by a ghost on their jumbo.

The phantom has appeared on the jet ever since a pilot died while sleeping on board during a flight.

The hooded spectre is said to look like the masked killer in the horror movie Scream. Cabin crew have spotted it several times near the door to the flight deck on the jet — call sign G-CIVH.

The reports surfaced on a web-site used by BA crews. A terrified purser, who saw the ghost last week, said: “It sent shivers down my spine.” An air steward added: “It looks just like the hooded figure in Scream.” The pilot, a first officer, was believed to have had a heart attack in his bunk on a flight from London to Australia.

But some colleagues have accused ghost witnesses of having “too much alcohol the night before”.

A BA spokeswoman joked: “Some people enjoy our in-flight service so much that they never want to leave the aircraft.”

goshdarnit
13th Feb 2006, 09:14
Jerry,

since you ask so nicely (you little sweetie) I'll give you a clue:
get a dictionary, look under the word "gullible", and read the definition backwards (by the light of a full moon). But don't tell anyone else 'cos there are lots of unenligtened people who think that strange household smells, noises and drafts are natural phenomena or figments of ones intoxication.

GDI

strafer
13th Feb 2006, 10:27
I remember once coming home early and going into my bedroom to find my missus cowering under the duvet. I then noticed a strange scratching sound from inside the wardrobe and a man's clothes (not mine) scattered around the floor. I got out of there straight away I can tell you.

Fortunately, the missus is made of sterner stuff and next time I got home early, she wouldn't let me in the bedroom at all in case I was scared. From downstairs, I then heard a strange series of banging and moaning noises and later, the back door opened and closed all by itself.

Explain that, sceptics!

Wyler
13th Feb 2006, 10:33
Sounds like you've got a 'Pokehergeist'. They are dangerous devils and have been known to leave sticky ectoplasm on the bedclothes.

God bless you and good luck.

G-CPTN
13th Feb 2006, 10:47
get a dictionary, look under the word "gullible"
GDI


As from the year 2000, 'gullible' was removed from all dictionaries. No reason was given.
Spooky . . .

tilewood
13th Feb 2006, 10:51
I thought the word 'gullible' was removed from English dictionarys
just before the election of New Labour.

Perhaps it was a supernatural event!! :}

MMEMatty
13th Feb 2006, 11:13
Anyone know if its still possible to get a copy of that book about ghost stories on airfields called something like "Ghost Stations" or similar? Can't find it on Amazon or Blackwell's online, anyone any ideas?

Spooky that

Matt