The new Robinson R88!

[Capt Hollywood]

Quiet day here on the coast. With all this talk of the next Robinson being a R55 or R66 I thought I might introduce the R88. Might get a job with the Robinson R & D dept! :ok:

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/7b519517.jpg

[coalface]

Mmm. Slight C of G problem methinks.

[Capt Hollywood]

All fixed! :ok: Introducing the R88 MkII

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/6989c397.jpg

[Say again s l o w l y]

You must have an amazing drive system, or do the pax have handles to turn on the headlining!

Copyright it quick before Frank sees it!

[Capt Hollywood]

Picky, picky. Here is the Mark III version then complete with raised cowling to accomodate the m/r drive system.

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/6126fef4.jpg

[Head Turner]

Will this desgn be better than the Enstrom, MD and Schweizer small SET's (single engine turbines). Nice design with just a couple of flaws, the rotor head is awful and the 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 seating need to be altered to 3 + 3 + 2, just because I think it would look nicer. Oh and the colour reminds me of Spanish taxis.

[Robbo Jock]

Quiet day indeed!

Might be worth changing the rotor head for a surplus Huey one. More chance of lifting the pax (if the engine can actually turn it!) and it'll make that lovely thwockthwockthwock sound.

[bellsux]

What donk do you recon??? PT6, Arriel, PW206/7 or do you have plans of making all of our lives a misery by sticking a RR- C30 in it.
Dont even mention a piston as you would need a geared 540 for that..

[Capt Hollywood]

Right then! For Head Turner and Robbo Jock we've lowered and streamlined the mast cowling and grafted on a Iroquois head to create the Mk IV.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/6aee5af1.jpg

[PPRUNE FAN#1]

The very interesting thing about that design is that every seat has a set of controls! Leave it to Frankie! You'll not only be able to do dual-instruction in the R-88, you can do quad- penta- or octagonal-instruction. The only problem I see is who's actually on the controls...

"I've got it." "I've got it." "I've got it." "No, I've got it." "No you bozos, I'VE got it!"

And autos ought to be fun...

"Okay, seats three, four and five, you guys are responsible for the flare. Seats two, seven and eight, you guys have the cushion."

The mind boggles.

[chopperchav]

I'll take mine with the jacuzzi in the back.

[Robbo Jock]

Have to ensure no-one opens all the doors at once. Could turn it into a single-pylon tilt-rotor.

I particularly like the multi student arrangement. Slash the cost of instruction. You'd have to have the instructor sitting at the back, with a long stick to clonk whoever's doing it wrong this time on the head. And all the other students would have to sit there with their hands in the air. A Robbie full of surrendering students, great!

[Head Turner]

What donk! No contest a PT6 every time

[g-mady]

Capt Hollywood

Just to test you - dont you think the r88 ought to have retactable undercarrage for such a long slender machein? Wheels perhaps for the mark iiii


FAN#1 - love the idea - 8 stes of control - PPL (H) instruction down by an 8th -

JUST £27.50 an HOUR!!!!!!!!!

[mikelimapapa]

Capt,
You must have too much time on your hands! Nice work though, gotta love photoshop. :ok:

[Capt Hollywood]

Ask and ye shall receive g-mady!

And for chopper chav the two seat jacuzzi is hidden behind the rear seats in an enclosed compartment to prevent water loss. It is accessed prior to departure from a door on the other side which, before someone asks, is also where the window is

Presenting the R88 MkV

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/f569096b.jpg

[IHL]

It looks like the main landing gear has been contracted out to sikorsky (76).

[belly tank]

Capt Hollywood!

i will graciously fly your current ride if you want to upgrade to your prototype!!!

Have you got anyone to test fly it yet?;)

oh what about the mariner version!..for those long overwater hops:{

PS how did the paint job come up on the big girl the other day?

[Capt Hollywood]

G'day Belly Tank,

Haven't got the 130 back yet, should be finished early next week. Will probably call through again on the way back unless I go inland for something different.

The R88 has internal pop out floats. :ok:

[Capt Hollywood]

Thanks to Bellsux and Head Turner for the suggestions but with the release of the Mk VI we've gone with a couple of Honda HF118 engines.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/0abf29c0.jpg

[WLM]

Great where do I send the cheque :}

[Bitmonx]

Hollywood......this is all very interesting but......the people want to see a modern rotorhead.......how about an ec120 design? Sales would be going trough the roof!!!!:)

[Head Turner]

Careful with the design as you are getting close to a MIL shape. Great cocept, but please I want mine with two really big sexy exhausts. Can do?

[Capt Hollywood]

Apologies to Robbo Jock but public demand has resulted in the conversion to a modern rotor system.

Announcing the R88 - Mk VII.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/7.jpg

[rotorboater]

Its looking good! careful the Chinese don't copy it like they are doing with cars!
2nd thoughts though they would sell it for under $100 K!

[Bravo73]

Capt H,

How about some high(er) inertia blades? A few off a 214B should do the job...! ;)

:ok: :ok: :ok:

B73

[md 600 driver]

holly wood
how about a notar

steve

[Capt Hollywood]

Thanks to a new Euroamerican trade agreement we now have the ability to splice a set of 214B main rotor blades onto an EC120 head, don't ask me how it's done it's vewy, vewy technical!
Here is the Mk VIII

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/8.jpg

[bellsux]

Hollywood,
As I am over here in the States right now I sent a copy to the FAA (Chicago Field Office) to see if they would issue a type certificate for it but unfortunately they rejected it due to the lack of a horizontal stabilisation system. To get some points back you might have to include some sort of syncronised elevator system as well, but dont worry if you can't because it was too hard for Agusta and that's why they took it off the Power and the Grand models.

[Capn Notarious]

Hey you forgot the belly hook, without which, all the ol time pilots cannot be inserted, complete with fishing boat to their remote lake and retirement home.

[mickjoebill]

Woundn't a R88 have more blades? ;)


Mickjoebill

[rotorfloat]

Ok now lets get rid of the semi-rigid system and go for a multi-blade system...I'm thinking 8 blades....perhaps borrow off the MI26.
Perhaps a 42-degree gearbox on the fenestron to keep it up away from the weeds as well
And it wouldn't hurt to make it a convertible either :}

[Air-Five-oh]

This is starting to look like it might just work!

[Capt Hollywood]

Bellsux - The FAA should now accept the Mk IX which has a horizontal stabiliser. A cargo hook is now also available with the Mk IX.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/9.jpg

[eurorobell]

Could be a good machine for EMS configuration, plenty of room for a stretcher or 2.

:cool: :ok: A winch wouldn't go astray on the latest model !!!!!!!!!

[Capt Hollywood]

And now the EMS version with rescue hoist - The R88 Mk X.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/10.jpg

[Mark Slade]

G’day Hollywood,

This is starting to look very similar to a ……..???

[tarkan]

Somethings really gotta be done bout the colour scheme Captain.

[Fun Police]

could there be any provisions for amphibious landings a la chinook?

[Flingwing207]

I still think...
http://www.helipost.com/photo/R44-44.jpg

[rotorcraig]

What about ENG capability? Can we have impressive looking dangly cameras please?

[Capt Hollywood]

The Mk XI ENG model.

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/11.jpg

[moosp]

Hmmm. Beginning to look like a horse designed by a committee.

I assume the Kevlar window frames will take the thrust of the main rotor?

But seriously, why does a group design like this always end up looking like a 1950's Eastern European job? Was that the way collectivism worked in their design bureaux?

Bauhaus concepts will out in the end.

Great work Capt H. With all that mass and the big Honda jobbies, I guess inflight refuelling might be needed? Let your Freudian fantasies loose on the shape and size of the probe...

[Capt Hollywood]

The Mk XII with inflight refuelling capability.

The joke's starting to wear thin isn't it!

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/12.jpg

[pohm1]

Lets be honest,it was thin by MK3.

Shame what hours of sitting around does for you, maybe you should try offshore;)

[Head Turner]

The UK CAA might get wind of this and get itchy fingers (they're sure to see megapounds floating through the british skys).

Hey Captain you've not given me the sexy exhausts, or is that with held for the MkXX version

[Heliport]

I've enjoyed the thread.


:ok:

[Capt Hollywood]

There you go Head Turner, the Mk XIII with big chrome exhausts, Ali G would be proud! :ok:

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/13.jpg

[Whirlygig]

I'd say it's looking damned near perfect Capt H! You've (everyone has ) done a sterling job.

My only question is how much? And, as an accountant you'd expect nothing less of me, what are the running costs and maintenance intervals!

Cheers

Whirls

[the coyote]

Spoke to Ali last night, he sez allo, an e sed wicked man, wicked. E allso sed 'ow can a midget munch on me kebab if ah ain't go no fluffy dice hangin' from me compass?

[Capt Hollywood]

Now come on Whirls, surely you realise that's for your fellow bean counters (no offence intended) to work out, I just design the thing! :ok:

CH :cool:

[Capt Hollywood]

Coyote, as the pink fluffy dice are an optional extra I have simply added them to the Mk XIII. A set will be included at no extra cost should the buyer request them.

ps : Don't tell Whirlygig, I haven't cleared it with the accountants yet!

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/14.jpg

[Whirlygig]

OK, here’s my first stab at costing – all figures in US$:



Basic retail price 1,500,000.00

Avionics
GPS thingy Garmin 430 10,000.00
Directional gyro 5,000.00
Turn/slip co-ordinator 4,000.00

Optional extras
Air conditioning 20,000.00
Leather seats 8,000.00
Headsets (DC13.4) 2,800.00
ELT 550.00
Furry dice (pink, yellow, green) 6.99


FLIR Ultramedia II camera mount 400,000.00
Air-to-air refuelling 350,000.00


Colours and trim
Standard two-tone
Metallic 4,000.00
Black 3,000.00



Hourly operating costs based on 500 flying hours per annum


Fixed costs 67.93
Overhaul reserve 155.42
Direct hourly costs 134.55



Obviously the initial capital outlay is reasonable due to there being minimal Research and Development costs to recoup – services here being given free of charge – thanks! All the more profit for me and Capt. H!


Now, all we need to do is the marketing campaign!


Cheers


Whirls

[the coyote]

Ahh, if only all manufacturers offered fluffy dice as an option at no charge.......essential kit for any marketing campaign.

You're a wise man Hollywood!:O

[Whirlygig]

OK, I think I re-jig the costings to throw in the fluffy dice for free:-

Basic retail price US$ 1,500,006.99

Can you tell I'm a true accountant?

Cheers

Whirls

[diethelm]

What about some 24's for wheels?

[Capt Hollywood]

Whilst a fine suggestion Diethelm unfortunately there is insufficient room in the wheel compartments to accommodate 24" wheels and increasing the size of the wheel compartments would necessitate the removal of the jacuzzi. Our marketing people tell us this is a bad idea!

CH :cool:

[diethelm]

All right I understand, but at minimum maybe we should call Exhibit and see if he cant pimp our "flyde". Can we at least chrome our rims?

[Capt Hollywood]

Whirls will have to add the optional chrome wheels to the optional equipment list! :ok:

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/15.jpg

[Head Turner]

Now for a practical adjustment which will excite the accountants 'cause this extra could be offered at a boosted price as it would enhance the optical illusion of the up market fluffy dice. That most of us like to fly VFR on a cloudless day, 'im up there' has other ideas and provides quite often 'is version of the car wash. So my suggestion is fit windscreen wipers. If this is aerodynamically possible on this high speed mount.

[Whirlygig]

OK,
Chrome wheels can be offered as an optional extra for US$ 2,500.

I'm afraid, Head Turner, that windscreen wipers don't particularly excite me and before I cost those I need to have a chat with the design boys to determine the implications and what other framework may need to be made to facilitate such an extra.

For the really chav-chopper, green sunscreens are available at US$50 with lettering at US$10 per letter e.g. "Hollywood" & "Whirls" would cost a total of US$200.

Cheers

Whirls

[2beers]

Well, the fluffy dices should be for free when it comes with that colour-scheme. These pictures where taken in February 2003...:ok:
http://www.prorotor.se/bilder/pprune/raggarkopter3.jpg
...and a close-up
http://www.prorotor.se/bilder/pprune/raggarkopter2.jpg
Cheers!
/2beers

[g-mady]

Good god - the production phase began quickly!!!!

[moosp]

Capt H, I think we have disproved your feeling that the joke was wearing thin. You have a great thread here and we love it.

Two reasons I guess. One is that many of us feel that this is not a joke, and that this is a perfectly viable commercial concept which will reap zillions of $$$ for the design team. I have already contacted a company in a country, "somewhere to the South East of Kent", who specialise in bicycle, soft toy and helicopter manufacture, with a side line in animal bye-products, who are interested in the concept. Please don't declare a design freeze.

The other is that there is such a latent volcano of humourous talent in aviation that it only needs a project like this and we are on it like Flynn.

Shall we call it the thinking man's TRRBATSOIT?

As an aside to another thread, Turbomeca are offering an after market add on to one of their products to prevent over-temps on start up for around US$50,000. So we need to design in a dodgey start up procedure so that Whirly can recoup some of the losses on the original sale price, which were discounted over long lunches.

[Capt Hollywood]

Well who am I to argue with public opinion, the design phase shall continue unabated until the design team (you lot) run out of award winning suggestions. We'd better get the production phase underway in America if we want to be in the running for the next Collier trophy!

The Robert J. Collier Trophy is awarded annually "for the greatest achievement in aeronautics or astronautics in America, with respect to improving the performance, efficiency, and safety of air or space vehicles, the value of which has been thoroughly demonstrated by actual use during the preceding year." The list of Collier winners represents a timeline of aviation, as many of the awardees mark major events in the history of flight.

When the R88 finally leaves the ground it will definitely be a "major event in the history of flight"

Onward and upward.......... we hope!

CH :cool:

[Head Turner]

Does this Capt Hollywood never sleep. The whole of the flying world of helicopterists is poised with anticipation on the next value added addition to this mega Einstein project. Eurocopter, Sikorsky, Bell and Schweitzer are for sure stealing every facet of this unique machine in the race to produce the 'helicopter that pilots want'.
Never before has this concept been offered. Capt Hollywood you are a world hero and visionary. Don't sleep, the hounds are at your door.

[Head Turner]

And I want my chrome windscreen wipers or I'll sulk all day - so there!

[Whirlygig]

I'm sorry Head Turner but, as I said, I'm waiting for the design chaps to let me know the work required in fitting this extra. That's the trouble with engineers; they think they're artists and tend to have the "artist's" mentality! They don't understand my job in the real commercial world when I have eager customers banging on the door demanding to be put on the order book!

I'll chivvy them along a bit. Nicely of course.

Cheers

Whirls

[g-mady]

Capt Hollywood,

The latest talk from the backroom staff is the suggestion of small arms - Its application in third world countries and for extreme game control (awkward cattle) would not be complete without:

either a 30mm chaingun from the nose??

or perhaps a hellfire from the side pods?

Just one of the latest suggestion -


PS - Whirlygig - sorry but this could really stuff up financial projections!

MADY

[BigMike]

Well this is an old favorite for helicopters:

http://dillonprecision.com/content/image/200/i_1405.jpg

Dont know if the door gunner comes with it though...

[Whirlygig]

Oh dear, this is the stuff of nightmares. We're talking arms dealing here to third world countries. I need export certificates from the Government who'll probably sign them and then give themselves Public Interest Immunity certificates and we'll end up like the Directors of Matrix Churchill.

No, sirree, no thanks! I'm a strictly above-board accountant.

Cheers

Whirls

Head Turner - how about your windscreen wipers at US $ 5,000. Bit pricey, I know but they will be chrome and the washer fluid will come directly from the wiper blades.

[Warrior2]

The Irish Contestant:) http://www.waterfordaeroclub.com/photos/untitled.JPG

[Cron]

CH - could it have one of those upside down mushroom things on top of the MR hub that allow it to 'look over' a hilltop whilst hovering below the hilltop?

I'm not sure what they are called.

Thank you.

[Jucky]

A Radar!:}

[Whirlygig]

I'm not sure what they are called.
Periscope?

Cheers

Whirls

[Cron]

Just realised that the Mushroom thing isn't upside down it's the right way up.

Sorry.

[i4iq]

Dont know if the door gunner comes with it though...

BigMike - I think that's up to you!

[Capt Hollywood]

This is the version we will be offering to the US DoD if the Bell ARH contract doesn't work out for them. Naturally a suitable camouflage colour scheme will be offered but it is unavailable at this time as the Art Dept are still on Christmas holidays.

Introducing the Robinson R88 'Ferret' - This 'rodent of the skies' is equipped with Hellfire missiles and a mast mounted sight.

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/16.jpg

[R22DRIVER]

Capt Hollywood you truly have far too much time on your hands!!

Im Jealous mate!! :ok: :ok:

[bellfest]

Cpt H,
I think u might need to beef up that tail boom old fella. Starting to look a bit inadequate with all the bells and whistles. Also, is there some type of safety guard to prevent one from obliterating the poor bastard on the wire with one of those missiles? Bit more effective than the hand held cable cutters!

[Capt Hollywood]

Bellfest,

In these days of composites and light weight ceramics, this state of the art rotorcraft will will no doubt be able to handle the loads placed on the tail boom. When the winch is being used it disables the Hellifires, if you need them in a hurry the PIC needs to decide what they are willing to risk more, the aircraft and it's occupants or the politician's daughter on the end of the cable! :ok:

CH :cool:

[g-mady]

Bellfest,
When the winch is being used it disables the Hellifires,

the PIC needs to decide what they are willing to risk more, the aircraft and it's occupants or the politician's daughter on the end of the cable! :ok:
CH :cool:


YOU LEGEND - Only on Rotorheads!

[Helipolarbear]

Got to be the funniest thread in the last 12 months.......Capt. HW......Keep the Genesis coming...............................with all those engines, especially on the Irish Varient...you could include a redundent NOTAR...for that dreaded EP loss of T/R ....???:}

[Head Turner]

Capt Hollywood, my boss, the one with the bulging pockets has flatly refused to fork out $5000 for the chrome windscreen wipers. The mood in the office is pretty electric 'cause I'm in a huff as I think the boss is a skinflint and he doesn't have to fly in the rain. So I have to toe the line and say bye bye to that (brilliant) idea. I bet the miserable bean counter is behind all this!

[Whirlygig]

I bet the miserable bean counter is behind all this!

You called? I can do it US$4,250 without the chrome. Is that better?

Cheers

Whirls

[ShyTorque]

Can anyone else hear the late Lu Zuckerman? He's laughing out loud. :p

I'm sure I also just heard Nick Lappos revving up to tell us it's not as safe as the S-92. :hmm:

I think it needs a bigger tail rotor. :8

[lowlevelhell]

Nice Action!! but i think you need to produce an agricultural model.

[R22DRIVER]

So how much extra do we have to fork out for a gorgeous blonde hostess to look after the crew and pax?

She can always sit on my lap if the seats become taken! Or even join me in the jacuzzi on the Irish Model!!

:ok: :ok: :ok:

[Cron]

Wire strikes?

[Capt Hollywood]

Another good option Cron, now available with all models.

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/17.jpg

[belly tank]

Capt Hollywood,

Just a thought :eek: you may want to beef up that Fennestron to handle the torque of those big 214 blades:{ , but im guessing that with your fore thought into this project that the tail rotor already has enough grunt:ok:

great thread BTW mate!

[w_ocker]

Hhhhmmm, just as a part of the brain-storming mind...
how about a fire-bombing belly tank?
or, snow-landing skids?
coffee-cup holders??
or, um, oh.....
I get back to you.

[Head Turner]

Good morning Whirlygig and Capt Hollywood.
I've just come out of a meeting with the boss, you know the skinflint with the bulging pockets, and he's still not happy at the cost of the now matt finished windscreen wipers. He's asked me to put it to you that if you do the chrome version at the reduced price then he'll fork out (reluctantly) 'cause he doesn't like to see me upset! You know how techy I can get!

[Whirlygig]

OK - $ 4,250 with chrome BUT, this price is dependant upon us receiving a signed Purchase Order from you by the end of next week (i.e. 17th Feb).

Cheers

Whirls

[Head Turner]

Now that the design has reached the preferred VFR spec I think it is prudent to consider the IFR version and so a weather radar will be needed and traditionally this is bolted on the front but lets' look at alternatives. It's sunshining outside but I have the uneasy feeling that IMC conditions will occur sometime in the future. Then there is the twin pitot tubes to think about and the advanced instrument panel which might require a wider cabin.
The boss, the skinflint with the bulging pockets, has thrown in his pennyworth (yes, that's all he's going to commit himself to) and suggests passenger steps for his VIP ladies who more often than not wear tight skirts and have difficulty getting in and out. He hasn't set a limit to the costs so pruedence is required here.

[Capt Hollywood]

It is with a heavy heart that I am posting this image of the R88 during flight testing. This image was sent to me with a letter threatening to release the image to the international press if I didn't immediately halt further development of this concept. It seems the industry is not ready for such a radical design and 'they' thought that by releasing the photos prior to the actual aircraft launch date they could downplay the ground breaking concepts we have incorporated in the R88 before we had an opportunity to explain them to the world.

Well two can play at that game so here is the R88 in flight. Enjoy my friends, enjoy! :ok:

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/18.gif

[Cron]

TSR2, Brabazon, Concorde and now the R88 - will these people ever learn. My thoughts at this time are with Capt Holywood and his team.

[Capt Hollywood]

Couldn't have said it better myself Cron. All classic aircraft that were ahead of their time that ended in failure.








Hang on a minute.........

[rotorspeed]

Brilliant thread - great entertainment! Capt Hollywood, we salute you!

[Head Turner]

Capt Hollywood is a failure, he's not the visionary I first thought and he's failed me.
I'm grumpy 'cause the prototype flew without the chrome windscreen wipers. I suppose I'll get told that they were omitted on purpose either due to development glitches or that a CG limit would have been exceeded. Whatever, I should have been consulted. The boss< the skinflint with the bulging pockets, is delighted that the pilot preferred committee model has flown and he thiks it was fully equipted with all mods and cons.

Should I tell him the truth and spoil his weekend.

[Whirlygig]

Oh Head Turner aren't we being a little petulant? There's no need to throw your teddies out the cart you know just 'cos testing was carried out without the chrome windscreen wipers.

That's the whole point of a prototype and you failed to realise that the windscreen blades are an option - it means that they can be added on but the normal basic model will not include them.

Sorry but I must defend Capt. Hollywood and the engineering design department who have worked very hard to produce this aircraft and you're behaving like a spoiled little brat!

You really are one of our most awkward customers.

Cheers

Whirls

[g-mady]

So thats it then were out of the job!

P45 anyone?

[Capt Hollywood]

I hope not G-Mady, just taking a short break as this chief designers fiance has just arrived from interstate and as I haven't seen her for two months I have more urgent matters to attend to :ok:

........see you in five!

CH :cool:

ps : Keep the ideas coming, the Mk IV awaits!!!!!!!!!!!

[Whirlygig]

I hope that's five hours and not five minutes!

Cheers

Whirls

[Head Turner]

My boss, the skinflint with the bulging pockets, has asked me to put it to the design team an inspirational idea that has exploded out of his entreprenurial brain that a 'Market Survey' in the best traditions of that discipline should have been undertaken prior to design. He's see's some $'s floating about and wants to get his sticky hands on whatever funds governmental departments and NASA could be willing to subscribe to this fantastic project.
A question for the design team. 'Funding and copyright issues are important, so what are you doing about this?
Your bean counter (who is nigling me about my teddies, and anyway how did you know about them) should have been aware of these issues.
That's my Friday afternoon go at Whirlygig and I feel beter about the weekend. 'Awkward customer indeed!!!

[Overt Auk]

Captain H: great design, but I've been waiting for the offshore variant. Could we have some floats please?

[puntosaurus]

The thing that bothers me is what Dave Jackson has been futzing around with all these years ? Here on this thread we have the best of Proon thinking churning out a design in a week.

[Capt Hollywood]

Overt Auk,

The emergency floats are incorporated into the undercarriage doors. This reduces parasite drag which is important if we are to reach our Vne goal of 185 KIAS.

CH :cool:

[Head Turner]

Capt Hollywood, dare I mention that an IFR version will be a 'must' and this will require a weather radar stitched onto the front. Please don't make it look as though it's a Friday afternoon after thought like the ugly versions on EC, Bell etc.
My boss, the skinflint with the bulging pockets is most impressed with the promise of 185 kts. This will give him that extra bonus when showing off in front of his mates (all members of the 'skinflints with bulging pockets' club).

[VHAUS]

Capt Hollywood,
Good to see that after all the time I've known you, your imagination hasn't run out!! Oh, and I think that the fluffy dice are a must.
Keep it up! :ok:

[strickers]

Great thread - thanks for this, really made my day. With regard to a bit of market research I would like to put my bid in to see the inclusion of manditory cup holders, rear-view mirror to see what is going on behind the pilots seat & jacuzzi without having to turn round and love the idea that everyone gets a window seat....

[Helilover]

What a fantastic thread Capt Hollywood!!

Can I make a suggestion? With the equipment levels as they are, I think I a police version should be in the pipeline. Enough room for a full Fire Arms team in the back - this could be a serious competitor in the police market!

Quote from Head Turner: "Oh and the colour reminds me of Spanish taxis."

Very true, but It's a high conspicuity colour scheme all of it's own - makes people go 'ARGHH' when they see it!!! :yuk:

Just needs the word 'police' adding to the side and a Nitesun searchlight.........

:ok:

[Capt Hollywood]

The Police version........ I'm still trying to source a weather radar Head Turner!

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/19.jpg

[wishtobflying]

No police helicopter could be complete without fast insertion kit .... unless this is the Commissioner's pimped up ride ... !

[widgeon]

One of them AWACS syle rotating radomes under the belly would be cool , you may have to increase the length of the landing gear to give enough ground clearance . An how about some Hind style weapons pylons to scare off any bad guys.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/e-2c-tr-hawkeye.jpg

http://www.aeronautics.ru/img003/e3a-awacs-01.jpg

for a couple of radome ideas.

[Mikester540]

Damn, Those bastards at Robinson have copied the S-92!!



:E http://www2g.biglobe.ne.jp/~aviation/s92c.jpg

[Head Turner]

The R88 is great. The R88 has the following standard/optional extras all having CAA/FAA certificates/approvals;-


Twin PT76 with chrome exhausts,
Two bladed heavy rotor
10 place seating
Fenestron tail rotor with single horizontal stabilizer
Night Sun
Hoist
Wheeled u/c with integral floatation system
Cargo Hook
FLIR
Red anti collision light and navigation lights
Landing light with full pilot control
Blue Police Beacon
Fluffy Dice, Pink - other colours available at extra cost
All doors jetsonable
Full light weight air conditioning
High visibility colour scheme yellow/blue (no options)
Sun glass holders at every seat location
4 point harness throughout
Vanity mirrows at every seat location - lipstick holders at extra cost
Door handle warmers
Chrome windscreen wipers
Weather radar
Full avionic suite
GPS and Moving map display with monitors in seat rows 2,3,4,and 5.
Inflight entertainment DVD based
Satellite Phone
3 Axis Autopilot and SAS
Optional leather seats with lambs skin covers for pilot/co-pilot
Fully adjustable heated seats for pilot and co-pilot with inertial reel harness
Sun visors
Tinted windows in passenger doors, pilot/co-pilot doors clear with sliding panel
Boarding steps
Air Ambulance fit
Police insertion fit
Glass cockpit with NVG conpatable Instruments lighting
Torch
Cabin lighting
Automatic GPS location device for route following.

Other options available with time and customer input and Capt Hollywoods' approval

[Fun Police]

what about the cup and doughnut holders?

[Ascend Charlie]

Being tuned to the Supernatural and all, I got a message from Lu to say that the flight test must have been a failure - the blades are coning the wrong way, so the coefficient of grunge trunnion stability must have overflapped.

He didn't explain what he meant, but i am sure it is something to do with the missing 18 degrees of phase lag.

Please include 18 degrees as an essential fit, not an option.:8

[Head Turner]

Oh dear, there is an obvious flaw in the system when considering the operation in wintery conditions and the design team need to be made aware that ski shoes are going to be essential for Fun Police who could flop this 'wonderful creation of pilot's minds' into deep snow and spill his coffee and get his doughnuts damp.
So yet another 'must have' (snow pads) is added to the already comprehensive list of essential items. There is a fear that the likes of EC, Sikorsky, Agusta, Bell and MD are closely monitoring this site for inspiration.

[The Flying Mullet]

G'Day Hollywood

An insperational thread, so much so it has made me finally get off my preverbial and post on prune.
Great design, it is admirable that you have added so many features making this little machine so versatile through out the Industry, it has got to be a money maker!!! Especially with the extreme list of optional extras (minus the Chrome Winscreen Wipers, Oh well?).
But what about TOURISM, how about adding in some bubble windows and an inbuilt DVD display/recording system for the ulimate addition to the tourist's experience.

Keep up the good work.

The Flying Mullet. http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/infopop/icons/icon14.gif

[VHAUS]

Yeah Capt Hollywood,
What about that tape, err... I mean cd player that plays the commentary in German and French for the tourists.:cool:

[bellsux]

How about doors that stay shut and won't pop open in flight, either that or doors that can withstand the weight of a pilot jumping on them from three feet...;) ;) ;) mr hollywood..

[MyData]

Fascinating. Is this how aircraft are designed? Imagine the size of the thread at Airbus or Boeing. ;-)

For what its worth, I'd like to see a piece of string on the front. I've not flown in many helis but the ones I have have always had a piece of string near the windscreen. This safety feature must surely be added.

[Capt Hollywood]

Bellsux,

I have no recollection of that your honour. :ok:

[pohm1]

I could be disuaded from testifying, for an appropriate price...........:ok:

[lowlevelhell]

Nice work Capt Hollywood !! but where are the spray booms????:ok:

[topendtorque]

Nice machine ,
whats the franchise worth?
there is a use for this type, like who hasn't been conned to carry st nic around sometime?
needs a big rear baggage space,
dickey seat like bonney and clyde days,
vertical chimney insertion probe,
double half sucked back MAP for the kiwis who have a rep for flying away with the chimney, mohommad, mountain an all,
personal ID for the eight drivers, rudolph and co,
large PA speaker for jingly tunes on finals

Yeh! and in me dreams a few pressies from luvly ol Frank for all of us.

[warrigal]

Low level hell.Would have to be a Laing.???

[Heavylifter]

warrigal . . Do you mean one of the legendary hughes 500 maintenance masters?? i havnt seen them for a while i must catch up with them when im back in nz

[Capt Hollywood]

The unveiling of the R88 at the recent Heli Expo in Dallas was a huge success. Hundreds of onlookers waited in queues for hours to catch a first look at the newest edition to the rotorcraft world.

Note the disappointed P&W rep in the bottom left of the photo. Whilst the current Honda powerplants are performing perfectly we are currently in discussions with engine manufacturers to offer alternative options to satisfy customer demands.

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/20.jpg

[Heliport]

:) :ok: :ok:

[Heavylifter]

nice work!!!!

[Flingwing207]

:confused: ... :bored: ... :ooh: ... :) ... :} ... :8 ... :E ... :ok:

[Grainger]

I like the way it's got two turbine engines beneath the rotor, plus the usual piston engine under the cowling at the rear.

Dual fuel ?

Oh - and why is Santa wearing a blue suit ?

[the coyote]

Who cares about Santa? Its got chrome pipes 'n fluffy dice......

[ShyTorque]

Capt H,

I sincerely hope the spy with the camera, standing at the rear of the hall, was apprehended. He's the one with the green light above his head (I think it was his flash ready light). :suspect:

If not, before you know it, this design will be in Flight International, with a cutaway version on the centre pages. ;)

[g-mady]

Capt Hollywood - You've outdone yourself now...this gets better and better!

I guess the next shot will be of the first satisfied customers? Pics of them in, or next to their new machiens???

MADY

[Head Turner]

Come on Captain Hollywood, I'm still waiting for the chrome windscreen wiper blades which some how have been scuppered from the show vehicle. You have done a brilliant job of launching the pilots ideal aircraft but whatever you are brilliant at, you have forgotten my wiper fit and my boss, the skinflint with the bulging pockets has been on my back and so I'm passing on the hassle to you. Fix it now!!!

[bellsux]

HT, Chrome windscreen wipers would be a definate no no as the reflection would be a certification issue and also no one has manufactured chrome ones since the 1980's. Anyway the R88 uses P2 bleed from the donks to blow over the screen anyway just like a Citation Jet... so can you please leave it alone now.

[Head Turner]

Sorry Bellsux for my ignorance in regard to the chrome w/w and the bleed air is certainly another PLUS in this already advanced concept helicopter. However, the bleed air might work on a Citation but I doubt whether it would work on the R88. Just a question for everyone. Has bleed air ever been tried on a helicopter for clearing the windscreen?

[Nige321]

Mmmmm
Look what I just found here (http://www.quantumworks.com/QAC_index.html)
:eek:
http://www.quantumworks.com/QA821/qa821r3a.jpg

[Fun Police]

it figgers someone would steal the idea!

[jetflite]

http://quantumworks.com/QA821/qa821r2p.jpg

[jetflite]

http://quantumworks.com/QA821/qa821r2i.jpg

people always taking credit for someone else's work.

[Capt Hollywood]

No fluffy dice I see, obviously a cheap knock off! :ok:

CH :cool:

[HELOFAN]

I assume that the original piston engine is really an APU.

I would like to order 7.

3 in flat black & 4 in in olive drab.

A few questions before the minister of defence cuts a cheque.

Will it have an outstanding safety record like the R22 & R44's?
We really dont want to buy a chunk o junk. :}

Can we get it in a 5 blade system ( I heard from your test pilots ...unofficial like .....that it vibrates like a mother erm... bad. :ooh:

Can it be ordered with the Dillon gattling gun or do we have to fit it ourselves?... its for for hunting yknow.

Is there a large lift helo in the works 9 Mil 26 kinda lift? looking for erm... troop/tractor insertion here as well.

Pop out floats ... we are an island ... Der !

Delivery time?

Cheers

Narcotics ( defence ) trials division .....ahh... i mean the army guys.

HF

[helopat]

The very interesting thing about that design is that every seat has a set of controls!

And a set of bicycle style pedals.

[OldRookie]

Does anyone have a list of training schools who have ordered one of these wonderful creations. I would like to sign up for my IR course as the increased student capacity should mean I could complete the course for around £4,600.

Let me guess i can only do it in the U.S. and then have to convert to JAA and still get stuffed by the CAA. :ugh:

[SASless]

Ah, not a problem.....the front seats are FAA/CAA/JAA/CASA/MOT approved but only when in IMC and IFR or SVFR with no visibility but clear of cloud.

Since most beginners are barely in control of the aircraft on instruments....the rear seat controls don't really connect to anything so only those pilots nearing completion of the IF course are allowed into the front seats.

The really interesting feature is the Instructor views the panel via sat link and is based in Las Vegas at the SSH main base.

SSH sees this aircraft as a solution to its inability to provide timely flight lessons to its students. Now that all seats are for students and the instructor is "out of the cockpit" and overseeing two or three aircraft....much progress can be made by each student.

[OldRookie]

er you do realise that gaining international rating in one aircraft, in one course is blasphemy........................Think how many agencys would have to shed staff as the paperwork decreases............sorry must be the caffine wearing off........

[Head Turner]

I've just woken up from my summer snooze and thought that I was in a cemetry searching the tomb stones for a long lost relative. Then, flying overhead was a beautiful yellow (it was inspired in yellow and that is how it will always be, so no other colour is available) R88 with all the wonderful extras fitted and for sure in working order, performing a perfect orbit prior to landing. Being such a perfect invention, I was happy to see a fantastic 'lady' elegantly disembark and walk towards me. There then was an awful clattering from outside of my vision. The R88 in all it's glory faded from view, the 'lady' that was heading in my direction turned and disappeared and the whole sunny sky burst into a grey rainy sky and I reached over and killed the alarm clock.

The moral of this is that no one is to be allowed to display images of the R88 other in R88 yellow. OK....

Am I getting strange thoughts??? Or is this R88 thing still not as perfect as it ought to be?

My boss, the skinflint with the bulging pockets has been pretty quiet lately, but when I showed him the latest images he voiced an unprintable opinion.

[HELOFAN]

You still have a job then?

:}

HF

[Capt Hollywood]

Weapons trials for HELOFAN's orders.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/21.jpg

[topendtorque]

spinifex in the background there hollywood.

Wish i'd had that sort of armament when I shooting ,, quadripeds out there a few moons ago.

Hope you conducted the tests well away from the hairy armpitters

[Head Turner]

Capt H, things are getting pretty serious with the R88 and Agressive!! You have been busy flight testing and you must have loads of data to sift through. I'm sure the competion is watching your every move but could we not have some snippets of the performance achieved. Clean configuration, no guns, hoists, external stores booms, underslung load hooks and coffee cup holders.
Heard the other day that the test pilots generate quite a bit of heat in the cockpit as they are all making individual imputs contradicting each other. Can I suggest that you fit a heater and allow one pilot at a time to run through the test program.
A simple heater design would complement rotor warming with the exhausted cabin air being ducted up the rotor mast and out along the inside of the blade exiting the blade tip area along the trailing edge in a chrome housing. Please no naff carbonfibre thing, chrome it has to be says my boss, the skinflint with the bulging pockets.

[HELOFAN]

Maaate.

I love it.

Looks like home and perfect place for a skippy targeting practicing trials.

I miss Oz.

Good thing the R88 is twin turbine, this sucker is gonna be heavy with all the extra's.

HF

Thanks Capt Hollywood for catering to our needs.

I think I may need to upgrade our fleet depending on the trials.

I want to see more

HF

[HELOFAN]

SIlly question here....

Glass cockpit ?

HF

[Capt Hollywood]

Hope you conducted the tests well away from the hairy armpitters

And waste a perfectly good opportunity to assess the ability of the door gunner to compensate for moving targets! In these days of highly controlled test environments, we have to make the most of every opportunity :E

HELOFAN - There is indeed a glass cockpit but due to the classified nature of its design there are no images available for publication at this stage. The design incorporates 3D imaging on flexible (plastic) transparent LCD displays that are built into the cockpit windows. The benefit of this design is that rather than having to interpret what a radar display is telling you, whether it be weather or threats from enemy aircraft/weapons, it will be displayed on the windows in it's actual position. The interior of the windows will also use technology similar to the touchscreens used on PDA's. You will be able to 'touch' the target being displayed on the window and get information on it via aural advice in your headset/helmet.

CH :cool:

[Capt Hollywood]

Declassified image of the R88 during flight testing at the little known Robinson test facility behind Mt Tamborine, Queensland, Australia.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/511deeb5.jpg

[TooLowTerrain]

Quality!

:ok: :D :ok: :D :ok: :D :ok: :D :ok: :D :ok: :D :ok: :D :

[Whirlygig]

Quality indeed but, as I've said before, quality doesn't come cheap. However, there are a number of very competitive financing options which I am more than happy to discuss.

Cheers

Whirls

[HELOFAN]

:D

Oh this is priceless.

:ok:

[Whirlygig]

As_I_said_before,_it's_not_"priceless"! (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2371331&postcount=53)

Cheers

Whirls

[Bat-Off]

Seeing this un-fold kind of makes you remember about the story of the woman making "Stone Soup" :}

[HELOFAN]

I would love some stone soup, Can I add some Potato's ??

LOL

HF

[Head Turner]

Capt Hollywood - Sifting through the spec of this creation I see that the desired configuration includes;- Multipilot training, Gunship or perhaps I ought to rephrase this as a Hunter Killer, Slung loader, Winch, police and SAR versions and IFR. The corporate world has not shown anything but a fleeting interest. Why is this?
My boss, the skinflint with the bulging pockets says he'd be really interested if it had bigger doors, flight steps, leather seats, aircon, multiplex video telecom imaging and space for a attractive flight attendant. For the latter he could be persuaded to part with some of the contents of his pockets. For the former, he needs a breakdown of costs so that he can reclaim tax and apply for grants.
Beteen you and me, he's really keen on owning one and because he is always looking at 'image', he'd like the first production model.

Lovely photo of the R88. Have the skids fallen off?

Any data yet on the Vne?

[HELOFAN]

Capt Hollywood & Whirlygig,
Before my 7 units go into production I would request that high lift skids are common to all 7.
Also request the all seeing eye ( as found on Kiowas, Blackhawks & the like ), for my night operations and as the county side here is all so hilly and being a sneaky bastard is a must.
And would require the helmet motion tracking system to be hooked to a Dillion M134 under chin.

Rocket pods would be considered depending on types available

Also seats need to be able to be removed quickly to convert into other configs, ( also exec ).

Anti heat seeking Chaff ( phospherous) systems

Can you confirm if the rumor is true that a J.A.T.O unit is being trialed at present for high performance take offs when M.T.O.W's are on outter margins?

Additional fuel bladders?


I will be incontact with you as soon as my collegues have decided on the final configs/options the A/C is available.


Please provide designs/photographs with the options I have requested ( time permitting)

Thank you & I look forward to your early reply.

Best regards,

HF

[Capt Hollywood]

Headturner,

Unfortunately the corporate world is fixated on image. The designers of the R88 have attempted to address this concern by introducing the sleek lines you see on the R88. Naturally it will take time for the flying public to embrace such radical thinking but in the end the R88, much like the rest of the Robinson range, will be judged by it's functionality, not it's looks!

And of course the skids haven't fallen off, the undercarriage is retracted.

Preliminary testing has shown the VNE to be beyond initial expectations. We anticipate the published VNE to meet projected guesstimates, somewhere around 185kts. :ok:

CH :cool:

[22clipper]

An R88 in Oz! Why wasn't I told? I'll have the Australian franchise thanks. We'll have two machines on loan for starters. One for demos & the other one for stock so the sales team can say stuff like, "No you can't have it, its the last one in stock & someone might want it"

We'll be needing long range tanks so we can sell the thing for coastal surveilance (10 hour loitering time waiting for ships gridlocked at inadequate port facilities), an approved anti-terrorist no-theft locking device (keyed fuel caps?) and self shortening blades (that automatically retract if the pilot tries to hover in overly confined areas).

Please advise deposit amount & delivery delay on first hundred units.

[Rotorchic]

This thread just gets better and better!

Well done Capt Hollywood.

[Capt Hollywood]

In response to HELOFAN's query I can confirm one of the prototype aircraft is being used as a testbed for a proposed JATO option.

CH :cool:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/danodwyer/Hosted%20pics/JATOtest.jpg

[topendtorque]

Capn H
I couldn't see the nose for the hat with long hair?

but I note that as the fuse nearly always repesents more drag than thrust - unless whole a/c is seriously downhill or power is inadvertantly switched off, and I also note that the test pilot has compensated for the extra thrust with increased M/R pitch, do you think it advisable to have a fuse pitching moment set of vector rockets such as in the space shuttle to overide any adverse feed back cyclic pitching moments into the rotor system?
tet

[Capt Hollywood]

TET,

Thankyou for your comments/suggestions, I have passed them on to the test pilots. As this is an experimental prototype there are bound to be some unusual attitudes, etc as we refine the design during the test program. The variety of small changes made during a test program are evident in the various of images of slightly modified S92's in the "Rotorheads around the World" thread.

See here : http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=76347&page=119

CH :cool:

[500e]

Dut to never wanted to fly a Robinson product i am encouraged that there are intrepid aviators out there who will order a NEW R88Mk.???? .
The skinflint with bulging pockets seems to be a skid kicker rather than a serious buyer.
My boss the owner of a large helio Co. (and late fortune) requires fixed price with all gismos and finance over the life of the Company cat as this animal was the recipient of all the money from the last Scam .
Presume the Licosorus in back runs the jac:suspect:ousi bubble maker

[Capt Hollywood]

Please direct all financial queries to our financial dept. All financial matters, including pricing and finance options are being handled by the department head, Whirlygig.

CH :cool:

[NNB]

how come it's in Ron Newman's colours...????????
:D

[Creaser]

Does captain hollywood have any spy photos of the new 5 seater Robinson posted in another thread today?

Is the seating arrangement 5 abreast or 5 inline?




Creaser

[Barnaby the Bear]

Genius Thread :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :8

[HELOFAN]

I am sold.

What impresses me the most, more than the versatility of this helicopter, or its good looks or even the running costs ( I hear they are very reasonable ) is the ability of the designers to respond to the customers needs almost over night.

Well done Capt HollyWood & all the designers, engineers & the whole
R88 Team ( you know who you are ).

:D

I think we have seen the future.
:ok:

[floatsarmed]

I was just getting used to having a full nights sleep without my dreams being infested with :mad: PHS Yellow and Blue.
:mad: NO MORE HOLLYWOOD, thats it, OK. You have moved on, now :mad: get over it and stop with the :mad: Yellow and Blue already OK!

:mad:
Good thread though!

[topendtorque]

how come it's in Ron Newman's colours...????????

I would have that an excellent piece of corporate clandestine camoflage, after all anyone who knows anything about uncle ron would never think him involved in something like this. keep em guessing!
tet

[OldRookie]

Any news on expected delivery dates yet ?

Or do I still have time to complete my PPL & CPL, before I start my executive transport and multiple pilot training school business ?

Currently I have 1 hr under instruction.

[havick]

mabye get it with hydraulic folding blades, the Navy might be interested.

[Head Turner]

The RAF are keeping pretty quiet on this one. Normally any new equipment comes under their investigators eyes. On this it looks as though there are no Ppruners in that Royal Service or are they waiting until the available options include moustache wax. Or is it the colour scheme that puts them off - can't see why, lovely yellow and blue...better than olive drab.

[500e]

later on at the factory

[Head Turner]

Fine helicopter. I have proposed that ppruners set up a charity to support this worthy cause with the aim of raising sufficient to make the first test flight of the R88 coincide with the circumnavigation of the globe.
Just think of the pictures that would be posted here and the headlines, something akin to the Airbus 380 publicity. Airshows and royalty be involved and perhaps ask Richard Branson to paint one in Virgin Helicopter logo.
My boss, the skinflint with the bulging pockets has volunteered to be the CEO of the charity, because he says that he has a way with money. Not too sure what he meant by this remark but I trust him.

[500e]

Understand from another site there is a blade problem on the 88, any info? as owner of large helio Co. is enquiring.:oh:

[HELOFAN]

Funny thing , I see a link on another forum to this thread, so I re read it & makes me crack up again , then I remember at the heli expo , folk talking about the new robby with a turbine & I was hearing myself spew out the facts about the R88 ( with all the options) :E & then hearing those facts from others as the week wore on.:ok:

& then The R66 fly out of the closet like its been in production for ages when we know it was stolen from Capt Hollywood's design R88.
:eek:

Still, I think the R88 should be out next year after the Goat raises its weary head !

HF

[belly tank]

I would like to know when we can expect some hard core pictures of the new machine??...much speculation and announcements, but im sure we are all waiting in anticipation for some pics!!.....i think this is the most anticipated product launch in over 10 years!!.CMON Frank im sure youve taken some polaroids of it!!!..........:{
i expect a cut of the profits too CAPT Hollywood!!!:ok:

[g-mady]

Who authorised that paint scheme!!!

[g-mady]

http://i43.tinypic.com/dea9ee.jpg

I see the projects back on track! First one I have seen when "out and about",

Looks like they went for several of the options too :eek:

MADY

[206Fan]

Mady

You need to work on those photoshop skills :p:E

[g-mady]

I have no idea what you're talking about! :p

MADY.

[g-mady]

Seriously... no credit for those photoshop skills?

MADY

[newfieboy]

What happened to the developement...:sad: a Canadian variant would of been nice....rappel points for Rapattack, an upgraded cargo hook and mirrors, longline window (bubble/floor) my preference would be floor a la Astar (doesn;t give me neck ache like a bell), bearpaws, popouts,sat track (very remote) full survival kit, snowshoes,axe,saw,satphone (definately not globalstar, prefer iridium), shoulder harnesses every seat a la forestry, bellytank,foam kit,bambi bucket (a must along with bearpaws,and survival kit) bell tent,cargo nets x4 lanyards,strapsx10 (never ending variety, drillers love um) barrel slings 5point , long range tank, tanis heaters, full set winter covers,dual controls, did I miss something.....oh yeah a nice spectra logline 150ft with swivel and remote, if ya can match that B2 fit we have, Im sold.....:ok: can ya get on the price for that little lot if still in development Whirls?......:D