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Yesterday a Singapore Airlines jumbo sat all day on stilts over at the Eastern park Sydney.
Appears a main bogie needed replacing. Was it scheduled maintenance? Don't think so.
The question, why have it done over there. Would it have anything to do with the greater time and expense of moving resources to enable the job. The strained relations at the top end or were the Qantas hangers already full?
Who knows?
Is it still on the Eastern park today?
rammel
18th Jan 2006, 22:01
I don't think QANTAS does their engineering anymore throughout Australia.
The strained relations at the top end. seems the problem
the boss does not care that we still transit singapore and there could be payback
amsa cant do the job. so they may have to use the boeing team
still need a hanger though
numbskull
19th Jan 2006, 01:31
The aircraft had a massive crack,(approx 24 inces long x 1.5 inces wide at its widest) in the r/h Body landing gear trunnion. Judging from the surface corrosssion evident on the crack surface, it had been there for a while. It will require jacking the aircraft and a complete gear change.
I imagine our illustrious management are absolutley screwing Singapore for equipment and facilities. Singapore are probably baulking at the price.
Propstop
19th Jan 2006, 03:26
Of course with SQ top maintenance they could not have missed it??
Don Esson
19th Jan 2006, 03:30
I imagine our illustrious management are absolutley screwing Singapore for equipment and facilities..
Your name says it all, Mr Numbskull.
Why shouldn't they? Do you think SQ would give QF a 'mates rate' deal? If so, think again.
Lord Snot
19th Jan 2006, 07:55
That'll give the ginger beers something to do before their skills perish..... what with All-Australian Mr. Qantas proudly shipping off the heavy maintenance to the Chinese or wherever it was.
What a blo0dy disgrace.
Propstop
19th Jan 2006, 08:32
Unfortunately when QF ship all their heavy maintenance to Asia this sort of thing is going to be commonplace as there is no depth of experience, nor dare I say it, apparently no commitment to safety in general as we know it in Oz. Here a professional LAME will refuse to sign a check out if he is not happy, I know I have and it has cost me a job I did not want at any rate.
I have stories and pictures of overseas sign offs.
Cool banana
19th Jan 2006, 09:41
Been Informed by quite a few off grounds staff while transiting Singapore, that in the last couple of years a lot of SIA engineers, have left for greener pastures to the likes of Emirates and MAS for better pay and working conditions.
:hmm: Market forces at work.
i'm sure that the Chinese will have Australian families and Aircraft saftey at the forefront of their minds when signing of on aircraft maintenance.
Cool banana
19th Jan 2006, 12:13
But doesnt SIA have some tie up with a Chinese Maintenance base facility in China and Qantas wants to go down the same road??
numbskull
19th Jan 2006, 20:18
Gee you're a bit touchy Don! I actually agree that QF should be screwing SIA. I just don't have much time for our "illustrious management". Of course our planes never break down in Singapore do they!
You too busy trying to cut costs and screw all the employees that you forget you are running an airline. I guess you must be a bit touchy because you're one of them.
Nudlaug
20th Jan 2006, 00:19
Well from what I've heard they are changing the gear on the terminal, Qantas was not too cooperative I guess
Bolty McBolt
24th Jan 2006, 05:36
A point to note
In the 15 years gone past when relations between QF and SQ were said to be "friendly"
Qantas has had 8-10 engine changes in Singapore.
Not one of these engine changes were carried out in a hangar.
Most if not all were done on a parking bay surrounded by taxi ways with no facilities, running water, canteen, tool crib, local support yet alone shade for the guys working a 20 hour shift to make serviceable the aircraft.
In the torrential down pours chest toolboxes would be swept across the tarmac in 6 inches of water. Non of it pleasant if only acclimatised to Sydney weather...
I don’t see any semblance of support from SQ then and QF shouldn't provide anything more than whatever is stated in the ICAO/IATA agreement.
F:mad:em i say
engine changes and gear changes are a little different,how did they jack the aircraft and do gear swings outside
Turbo 5B
24th Jan 2006, 06:39
They used tall jacks and a team from boeing I believe.
The boys from amsa unloaded a new fully built up gear (except for the wheels and brakes) out of a freighter and a team that was flown in changed the gear and it flew out the next day.
Bolty McBolt
24th Jan 2006, 07:20
QF 1
Believe it or not..You are allowed to jack a 747 up to 40kts and my remain on jacks up to 60kts but what happenes after that becomes a little tricky
Whats the problem...
Turbo 5B
24th Jan 2006, 07:49
The problem is probably how does a plane fly for seven sectors with a body gear steer unlock problem with out someone actually looking at the gear itself?
And what system of maintenance allows that much corrosion to remain on a gear for so long?
You could fit your hand inside the crack apparently and the trunnion bush had almost migrated out completely.
i believe thats the sys of maintenance QF is looking at