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Jr. Ewing
13th Jan 2006, 16:47
Anyone on what to expect on Air Finland interview?
Rostering etc etc...?
Surprised nobody here has been asking this before as they are interviewing new fo's currently......or have I missed something!?
Thanks!
Jr.
Jr. Ewing
16th Jan 2006, 20:01
All Finns been banned from here or....:confused: :(
JiiÄrrä.
Margarita
17th Jan 2006, 06:24
If you look back for a year or so most Finns got upset about PPRUNEs decisions about their postings. Too bad that only country in the north with growing aviation business was practically banned...
As far as I know, no-one was banned!
Problem was, that a lot of the finnish guys/girls wasn't too happy about putting in the effort to write their posts in english, so that also non-finnish-speaking people visiting the forum would understand their writings.
When this was pointed out to them, they went sour and stopped posting.
Can't see the problem, really.
Except that this forum has lost a chunk of (maybe) valuable info regarding finnish aviation. Which is bad enough, I s'pose. But on the other hand, I didn't get any of the stuff written in finnish anyhow, so.......
However,.....I fail to see why a "growing aviation business" should be a free-ticket from doing what a vast majority of the other posters on this forum does; Write in english!
Regards,
An2:8
Aviate378
17th Jan 2006, 10:03
Well, I believe that it's mostly the matter of principle.
This forum is named as the "nordic forum" and it is allowed to write here in swedish, danish, norwegian but not in finnish language. :suspect:
I really wouldn't mind writing more often here, in english, if all other nordic pilots would do so. However, banning one of the languages that undoubtly belongs among the "nordic" countries is simply discriminating.
The other thing is: We have an excellent aviation forum in Finland. This forum is called FS Nordic. http://www.fsnordic.net Your postings are allowed in finnish, "scandinavian" and english.
Even it was originally intended for the flight simulator "freaks", it's nowdays discovered by the others as well.
Finally, back to the original topic:
I heard that the company has made their selections for the interviews (so far only). They have interviewed quite a few co-pilot applicants and some sim-sessions and psycho testing has already been conducted. The rumor says 4-6 new hires will be selected in near future. As far as I know, two new hires has already started their 757 type rating course in December.
I wish the best of the luck all of them, concratulations to all those who were (or will be) selected; B757 is such a wonderful aircraft... :)
Jr. Ewing
17th Jan 2006, 11:40
Thanks for the information Aviate378:ok:
Not sure about the rumours that all are taken in already, think a few guys are still waiting to get interviewed........unless they got shafted:(
I believe that on a nordic forum you should be allowed to post in any nordic language......isn't that the whole idea??
Jr.
FL540
17th Jan 2006, 12:23
"I believe that on a nordic forum you should be allowed to post in any nordic language......isn't that the whole idea??"
Näin se homma etenee... Samaa mieltä...
Päivän jatkoja!
;) ;)
I guess anyone can write in any nordic language they wish on the Nordic Site however we must realize that most Scandinavians are not able to read Finnish since it is so far distant from the other Nordic languages. So if it is written in Finnish it will probably just be read by finnish people!!! (I might be wrong but aren't Finnish people able to read and write in Swedish?)
Margarita
17th Jan 2006, 12:51
I guess that more Finns speak and write english than swedish.
Jr. Ewing
17th Jan 2006, 14:31
I would agree on no finnish if the forum would be called Scandinavian forum as Finland is not part Scandinavia but as long as it remains Nordic forum I don't really understand why you can't post in finnish.
When I read posts in Norwegian or Danish there are many words that I don't have a clue about. But if I'm interested I'll just PM the person in question and politely ask for a english version, works for me.
Shouldn't be banned but optional. Maybe all non-finnish speaking ppruners could see it as an introduction to the finnish language...you never know, it might score you a job one day :ok:
Se on moro,
Jr.
Well, Jr, not many posts are written in Noggie-, Dane-, or Swedo-lingo!! True!?:hmm:
Besides the odd "cut`n´paste"-job from a newsrag, I mean! ;)
But, before finnish was "banned" from the forum, there were finnish posts popping up left, right and center!! ...and there's the difference.
Nothing to start a fuzz over, really,......if you think about it.
C'mon now,... let's all hold hands and sing together!!!:E
Aviate378
17th Jan 2006, 18:06
Not sure about the rumours that all are taken in already, think a few guys are still waiting to get interviewed........unless they got shafted:(
Jr.
You are right, the selection is still going on. All those concerned should be informed by the week No:6.
Avi8
Bengt Engel
18th Jan 2006, 10:01
Simmer down boys....
there are even rumours the "big" Finn is cutting their finnspeak requirement in the coming month...
lets keep things civilized in here and use the worldwide aviation language...no, not talking about french...
in the last few weeks a lot of threads have vanished due to heavy bashin'...:}
you are all welcome to post in finnspeak....but think twice before you do...:ok:
back to topic: I thought those guys were goin' belly up?
Big Earn
19th Jan 2006, 14:16
Where did you hear this from? Haven't heard anything like that.
Rule Distance Zero
19th Jan 2006, 15:12
Hi everybody,
About banning, I was banned and still I am, so I had to log in with another name. :yuk: Also few other guys were banned too after posting their opinion to use one of the nordic languages. Finish were used in posting that were directed to Finns, but still everybody provided some short translations in english, which was by the way very co-operative. Then Finns tried to keep it in english, but they were shot down because some other forumers found that english the Finns used, was not good enough for them to understand. :{ Also Finns dared to ask that people writing in Danish would provide translations or everybody would start to use english- that started the language war and since it was just yes-no-yes-no-**** we ceased posting posting here. This is not to start it again, but remind that it would be nice if we use language that we all understand- no priviledges to anyones. After that we can really start to enjoy good fellow-pilot co-operation in North. Tack och förlåt. :} Ugh, I have spoken.
about the topic...
According to my best knowledge Air Finland is alive and kicking, not going to do any belly-up aerobatics :D
They are hiring new first officers constantly due to expansion in operations and also some firsts have left company for seeking greener pastures at flag carriers nest.
Also company is seeking cabin crew.
Today the Finnish Travel magazine and other weekly magazine voted Air Finland as the best holiday charterer. It was result of mystery shopping test done in near past.
This is one ref. I found so far about rosters, terms and conditions so far... http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/factfile.php?id=nbj6nry04rh0rz88hehe6m6ervj34nthq291evp88qxp ctmjxsm
http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/factfile.php?id=nbj6nry04rh0rz88hehe6m6ervj34nthq291evp88qxp ctmjxsm
Once again,
No hard feelings, but lets not start the b*****y language war again.
Jr. Ewing
19th Jan 2006, 15:38
Amen!
Jr.
Dockstyrman
9th Feb 2006, 12:45
How do you apply to Air Finland?
To whom and where, my finish is not that good.
Thanks in beforehand!
Jimmy The Big Greek
9th Feb 2006, 21:24
Do you need to be able to speak Finnish in order to get a job with Air finland?:hmm:
NordicJetSet
13th Feb 2006, 16:03
I've met some non-english speaking crew with Air Finland so I don't think that they require that. I think the most important thing is that you should have is experience on flying the 757 or at least the type rating.
The application form on the website is only in Finnish but you can make contact by email: info(at)airfinland.fi.
H.Finn
13th Feb 2006, 18:50
I've met some non-english speaking crew with Air Finland so I don't think that they require that. I think the most important thing is that you should have is experience on flying the 757 or at least the type rating.
The application form on the website is only in Finnish but you can make contact by email: info(at)airfinland.fi.
I really don't believe you will find any "non-english speaking crews" with Air Finland. AFAIK there is one non-Finnish captain with them.
They did not require a 757 rating before, and don't believe they require it now. Probably very very difficult to get a job with them unless you speak Finnish. Good luck trying, though.
Gnirren
13th Feb 2006, 19:17
Maybe one point is that only finnish understand the language, whereas I can read danish and norweigan ok even though I'm swedish?
Jimmy The Big Greek
13th Feb 2006, 20:23
I think its more likely that they do not like to hire foreigners.
In your work you just need to know English
Margarita
14th Feb 2006, 02:27
Jimmy,
I don't think that they care from where you come from but good command in finnish language would make the life much easier for you and others.
NordicMan
14th Feb 2006, 13:30
I did not read the whole thread... But have a look in the bloody "Frog" forum...
No one seems to be complaining when they are typing in french.
Regards.
N.M
JJflyer
15th Feb 2006, 09:02
Sure hope they don't drop the language requirement... Lets face it. SAS requires you to speak one of the "Scandinavian" languages. KLM wants you to learn Dutch. For Lufthansa one needs to speak German or learn it. Want to work for any UK or US company and don't speak English, think you can get hired?
I still remember a Georgian, then Soviet Union, pilot who moved to Finland learned the language and has been with Finnair since the late 80's.
JJ
Hi!
Any new information concerning pilot recruitment? Are they still hiring? Any news about their financial situation?
Thanks!
NordicJetSet
5th Mar 2006, 13:41
In todays newspaper there's a big ad by Air Finland for recruiting pilots. The management has told everywhere that last year was very good financially, but they haven't told any numbers...
Jr. Ewing
3rd May 2006, 23:26
From their website...
Air Finland exceeded all its targets in year 2005. The company made a 1.1 million euros net profit. The airline also carried 404.000 passengers during the year.
Jr. :ok:
OnRoute
9th Nov 2006, 10:36
[QUOTE=Aviate378;2328802 This forum is called FS Nordic. http://www.fsnordic.net [/QUOTE]
There is now also an other Finnish forum that tries to fulfill the need that FsNordic doesn't that is anonymous or semi-anonymous discussion for Finnish commercial pilots in Finnish. This can be found at http://wings.iphorum.com/.
-OnRoute-
duece19
24th Nov 2006, 01:04
If Im not mistaken (which I sure could be) PPRuNe staff banned finnish because they had no moderator that spoke the lingo at that stage, and thus would have no control over the postings, which clearly is not good on a forum of this size.
Legal issues is a big thing these days and if that was the real reason I can only agree with the decision. Having said that, it would not be impossible to find finnish speaking member and train him as a moderator.
Anyways: Hopefully some of you´s get jobs with Air Finland, and if you are not finnish speakers you should atleast make an effort to learn :)
cheers
duece
Finnrotor.com
9th Dec 2006, 22:17
There is now also an other Finnish forum that tries to fulfill the need that FsNordic doesn't that is anonymous or semi-anonymous discussion for Finnish commercial pilots in Finnish. This can be found at http://wings.iphorum.com/.
-OnRoute-
Now that is a very good thing! Finally Finnish professional aviators have a place to chat in Finnish. And looking at it, there's certainly some discussion going on already, not exactly a "slow start"..:ok: