Fast Jet Pilot Kit

[dlav]

Hello everybody, I was wondering if anyboy could help me out.

This time next week I have to do a talk on a Fast Jet Pilots Kit, and to be honest, im not exactly sure on what to say. I have a helmet, g-suit, oxygen mask etc etc

If anybody could give me any information about the above I would be very grateful, or any basic hints/advice.

Thanks

dlav

[jimgriff]

Boots, cotton or wool socks, long johns, immersion suit, life/survival jacket, gloves, big watch, sunglasses, cold weather jacket, flying suit (growbag), chinagraph pencil, change of underwear. The list goes on..........

[Divergent Phugoid!]

Now then, who would you be giving a talk to about FJ kit and why??

Been on Ebay have we sir? Seen the Will young vid have we sir?? mmmm.. All those men in flying suits..... Sir has a flying suit? And a helmet? Mmmmm suits you sir, suits you!
:E :E

[dlav]

haha, yes Will Young .........:yuk:

Sorry, I should have said that I have the kit, and now I need some information about it. Im not a pilot, so therefore Im not in the know.

Any useful information on the kit, statistics, or generally anything that I could talk about for 10 mins in relation to a fast jet kit, that will prevent my audience from falling asleep :8

Cheers :ok:

[Divergent Phugoid!]

I would have thought that the prospect of receiving a talk on flying kit was enough to send your audience off to the land of nod straight away!

I must remember not to attend one of your seminars! :ok: :ok:

[Onan the Clumsy]

Don't forget to mention that each flight suit has a large number on the back (by regulation), plus a smaller one on the front and on the sleeve. This is for use during combat practice and aerobatic displays and allows the referee tomake sure the correct name goes in his book should there be any infraction.

The affixation of sponsorship logos is still under discussion at the ministry.



but if you really want to keep the audience awake, take along a catalogue from your favourite S&M supplier and point out the similarities, making special note of the potential for 'breath play'.

[dlav]

Oh dear Onan, been a late night? Still thanks for that! :} :ok:

[adr]

Is that the kit used by a FJ pilot, or a kit to make a FJ pilot?

If the latter, there are many internet sites illustrating the equipment required and the techniques to be employed, and your audience could probably stay awake for ten minutes.

If the former, one way of structuring your talk might be to show each pice of kit and explain how it keeps a pilot alive. "If it weren't for this, then if [scenario], [consequences]."

adr

[plans123]

Don't foget mirror, comb and hair gel!!!! :yuk:

[dlav]

I have the Kit used by a FJ Pilot - now I just have to talk about it. This is the hard part!:confused: :uhoh:

[c-bert]

I hear that regulators can be a tad awkward to clean after bouts of motion sickness...:uhoh:

[movadinkampa747]

The hard part will be staying awake. This is what your audience will look like.

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[dlav]

haha. well this is why Im trying to do abit of research to find out from the professionals, so that my audience wont end up looking that!








I hope............

[movadinkampa747]

What exectly do you want to say? One thing to do is to pick on the fattest person in the audience and make them put the kit on..............


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If its any help try here

http://www.rfd.co.uk/rfd%5FDefence/

This is Beaufort who make flying clothing.

[dlav]

Im planning to dress somebody up in the kit, and then I want to talk abut the kit as much as possible.

Explain all the parts etc.

Problem is, I dont know much about the kit, so I need advice on how to talk about it and explain it:zzz:

[movadinkampa747]

Try this to start your talk.
Suit Up for Safety.

Why do I need to wear personal protective clothing and equipment?

Let's give it some thought. The human body is amazing. We have a head and

brains for thinking; ears for hearing; eyes for seeing; a nose for detecting

odors; a mouth for talking and eating; lungs for breathing; arms, elbows, knees

and legs for lifting and bending; hands and fingers for dressing and feeding

ourselves and for writing; legs for walking and running; and feet and toes for

support and balance. However, we can be easily cut, burned or blinded. We can

break bones, cut flesh, become deaf or blind, get scraped and suffocate.



These possibilities bring to mind the need for working safely and wearing

personal protective equipment and clothing.



We are all familiar with the game of football. We have either played it one

time in our lives or sat in front of the "boob tube" during fall and winter

weekends to watch it. Not many football spectators think of safety while

watching a game, but safety in football is real. It starts before the game in

the locker room when the team is suiting up. Players have to wear protective

equipment, which includes shock-absorbing helmets with face guards; mouth

pieces; shoulder pads; rib, elbow, knee and hip pads; and cleated shoes.

At times this equipment becomes uncomfortable, but the players know that the

game is quite rough and injuries can occur. If they want to play in the next

week's game, they wear this personal protective equipment. After all, players

are not much good when they're sidelined with injuries.



Real pros realize this fact and figure out the odds. When they wear personal

protective equipment, their chances of getting through the game without a

disabling injury are much greater. Therefore, their chances of continuing as

successful football players without suffering injuries are greater. Discomfort

and inconvenience do not mean a thing to them.



Like football players, employees may work on a job that requires personal

protective equipment, such as safety glasses, safety shoes, gloves and hand

pads, hearing protection, hard hats and respirators. Personal protective

equipment cannot prevent an accident from occurring, but safety equipment can

prevent serious injuries.



We realise that safety glasses, safety shoes, gloves, ear plugs, hard hats and

respirators are kind of a nuisance to put on and wear and may seem rather bulky

and uncomfortable.



Most of the time, if personal protective equipment is properly fitted, it's

just a matter of getting used to wearing it. This is a lot easier to adhere to

when we remember that, like football players, we stand a better chance of

continuing successfully with our jobs and home lives if we are protected from

possible serious injuries by personal protective equipment.

[Mr C Hinecap]

Unless your audience are all aircrew as well, the audience will :zzz: anyway.
If you have everything, do you have the issue ego too? :E

[Ewan Whosearmy]

Dlav
If you want people to help, then you need to provide more information:
Who is the audience? School kids, University students, the local Rotary? Knowing this will define the level of information they'll be able to absorb.
What kit do you have (type of mask, helmet, age and date of manufacture, country of origin etc.)? If you are giving a generic lecture then some of this doesn't matter, but if you want to add small details to your discussion of the MBU-20P mask you own (for example) you could explain how it incorporates support for pressure breathing, which forces oxygen into the pilot's lungs to help counter the physiological effects of high-gs. This is just an example, but until you take time to giive us details, we can't help...

[propwash866]

As a previous holder on 100 Sqn, giving talks on AEA and the jet was pretty much my bread and butter. Other posters here are right, your talk needs to be good or people start catch some Z's. I imagine you're perhaps talking to ATC cadets? Generally, the best solution is to find a willing volunteer to dress up, to save embarrassment don't pick a fattie or someone who's obviously not going to fit into the kit. Talk through the kit from the bottom up, starting with the G pants. Talk briefly about how they work (by squeezing the wearer's legs and stomach, forcing blood back up to the head under G.) This can be demonstrated by blowing into the hose, but be sure not to cut your lip on the connector, as doing so can cause considerable embarrassment during the rest of your talk!

LSJ next, makes you float, holds survival kit, protects neck blah-de-blah, then helmet assembly. Nb modern FJ helmet & mask without NVG or anything special like that is worth ~ £1200.

To be honest, unless you're a Squipper or aircrew who uses the kit regularly, I think you'll find it incredibly hard to speak with any authority about the kit, simply because unless you have first hand experience of the kit in use, there's no way for you to know enough about the practicalities and intricacies of its use to sound interesting. A talk on a dry(ish) subject like that really has to consist of a lot of practical hands-on and a fair bit of personal experience, example being a mate who had a birdstrike and was saved by the helmet/mask combination, or the experience we know all too well of pressure breathing in the chamber at Henlow. Sorry I can't be of much more assistance mate!

[movadinkampa747]

to save embarrassment don't pick a fattie or someone who's obviously not going to fit into the kit. Talk through the kit from the bottom up.....................

Ooh no fun propwash!!!!!
Start from the bottom? Does my bum look big in this g-suit?

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[BEagle]

Well done anyway in putting up with the banter!

Pity you can't get a life preserver. Getting the littlest lady to put it on and then pull the inflation handle was always fun as 2 enormous dayglo boobs suddenly appeared from amongst all the green!

[dlav]

Well a big thank-you to everyone who has replied - much appreciated chaps.

Yes the talk is for an ATC Open night and my CO has kindly informed me that I will be doing this as I am the only to have had a fast jet flight :mad:

So my audience will be mums/dads/grannys/brothers/sisters, maybe even the cat aswell????

BEagle - :ok: Like your thinking, I might pay a trip to 230sqn and ask nicely for one

[Onan the Clumsy]

Why do I need to wear personal protective clothing and equipment?

Let's give it some thought. The human body is amazing. We have a head and brains for thinking; ears for hearing; eyes for seeing; a nose for detecting odors; a mouth for talking and eating; lungs for breathing; arms, elbows, knees and legs for lifting and bending; hands and fingers for dressing and feeding ourselves and for writing; legs for walking and running; and feet and toes for support and balance. However, we can be easily cut, burned or blinded. We can break bones, cut flesh, become deaf or blind, get scraped and suffocate.

These possibilities bring to mind the need for working safely and wearing personal protective equipment and clothing.

We are all familiar with the game of football. We have either played it one time in our lives or sat in front of the "boob tube" during fall and winter weekends to watch it. Not many football spectators think of safety while watching a game, but safety in football is real. It starts before the game in the locker room when the team is suiting up. Players have to wear protective equipment, which includes shock-absorbing helmets with face guards; mouth pieces; shoulder pads; rib, elbow, knee and hip pads; and cleated shoes.

At times this equipment becomes uncomfortable, but the players know that the game is quite rough and injuries can occur. If they want to play in the next week's game, they wear this personal protective equipment. After all, players are not much good when they're sidelined with injuries.

Real pros realize this fact and figure out the odds. When they wear personal protective equipment, their chances of getting through the game without a disabling injury are much greater. Therefore, their chances of continuing as successful football players without suffering injuries are greater. Discomfort and inconvenience do not mean a thing to them.

Like football players, employees may work on a job that requires personal protective equipment, such as safety glasses, safety shoes, gloves and hand pads, hearing protection, hard hats and respirators. Personal protective equipment cannot prevent an accident from occurring, but safety equipment can prevent serious injuries.

We realise that safety glasses, safety shoes, gloves, ear plugs, hard hats and respirators are kind of a nuisance to put on and wear and may seem rather bulky and uncomfortable.

Most of the time, if personal protective equipment is properly fitted, it's just a matter of getting used to wearing it. This is a lot easier to adhere to when we remember that, like football players, we stand a better chance of continuing successfully with our jobs and home lives if we are protected from possible serious injuries by personal protective equipment.






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[Flt Lt Spry]

I thought that football players just wore shin pads...?

[jumpseater]

Having had to give various presentations myself, I'd start with the advice given earlier, start with what you know.
You said 'I am the only one to have had a fast jet flight'
So, assuming you had to suit up, tell a story about that. Maybe in this sort of order....
a/ I went on a fast jet trip in a ****
b/ before I went up I had to attend a briefing
c/ we have to wear safety equipment, then start with a sequential list
d/ The first item you put on is clean pants, coz (1) your mum always told you to, (2)you'll be sitting on a 'Bang' seat. If you hear a 'Bang' you'll be glad you put cleans ones on.
e/. next item, brief description of what it is, why it does it, why it goes on in the sequence it does, before the next bit.
When volunteer fully suited you're ready to fly, end of demo any q's?
Perhaps an FJ driver or squipper can tell you the seqeunce of suiting up, and go from there.
Beags' audience would look something like this

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[dlav]

Thanks for that. Any more ideas warmly welcomed

[Mr Wippy]

Thanks for that. Any more ideas warmly welcomed


Pop in and see the Survival Equipment Fitters (Squippers), they do this kind of thing all the time.

[movadinkampa747]

Pop in and see the Survival Equipment Fitters (Squippers), they do this kind of thing all the time, and unlike the majority of aircrew, actually know what they are talking about.

And that from a person who needs to ask for leadership advice on this forum?