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apacau
12th Jan 2006, 01:34
BN-CB is an interesting one!


QantasLink Announces Q400 Queensland Route Network Latest News
Brisbane, 12 January 2006

The Qantas Group's regional subsidiary QantasLink will increase its Queensland capacity by 18 per cent as its new Bombardier Q400 aircraft come into service over the coming months.

Qantas Executive General Manager Regional Airlines Narendra Kumar said the first of the new aircraft arrived in Brisbane this week, in preparation for entry into service on 26 February*.

"We are dedicating five of QantasLink's total order of seven new Q400s to Queensland," Mr Kumar said.

He said the new 72-seat Bombardier Q400, which was both larger and faster than the airline's current Dash 8 fleet, would enable QantasLink to provide more than 240,000 additional seats each year into 12 Queensland ports.

He said the new Q400s would operate between:

* Brisbane and Rockhampton - increasing seats by 16 per cent;
* Brisbane and Gladstone - increasing seats by 22 per cent;
* Brisbane and Emerald - increasing seats by 37 per cent;
* Rockhampton and Mackay - increasing seats by 24 per cent;
* Mackay and Townsville - increasing seats by 26 per cent; and
* Townsville and Cairns - increasing seats by 21 per cent.

"Flying the Bombardier Q400 on some of the services on these routes also gives us the flexibility to redirect other capacity.

"For example, we will be able to operate 50-seat Dash 8-Q300 aircraft alongside our 36-seat Dash 8 aircraft on services to Bundaberg, Longreach, Roma and Charleville, to provide more seats," Mr Kumar said.

"In addition to boosting capacity by upgrading aircraft, QantasLink will also add an extra flight to Weipa and Roma," he said.

Mr Kumar said QantasLink had already announced new double-daily Q400 return services between Brisbane and Mackay, which would commence from April 2006.

"Tourism and business sectors across Queensland will benefit from the additional capacity and the introduction of the Bombardier Q400 on key routes at peak demand times."

Mr Kumar said QantasLink would also operate a daily direct Q400 service between Brisbane and Canberra from April 2006, adding more than 1,000 extra seats on the route each week for the Qantas Group.

"The QantasLink flight will depart Canberra at 3.45 pm which is timed to connect with flights to Queensland ports beyond Brisbane.

"QantasLink is the first airline in the Southern Hemisphere to offer customers this new aircraft type," Mr Kumar said.

"We have made a significant investment in the Bombardier Q400 aircraft, with seven scheduled for delivery by July 2006 and purchase rights and options over an additional 10 aircraft."

Mr Kumar said the Bombardier Q400 featured jet-like speed with new engine and propeller systems.

"Flying at 360 knots, this aircraft reduces flight times compared to our current services, giving us the potential to operate additional frequencies on some sectors," he said.

"This $200 million investment in new aircraft is a reflection of the Qantas Group's commitment to regional Australia.

Issued by Qantas Corporate Communication (Q3379)
Email: [email protected]

ITCZ
12th Jan 2006, 01:49
BN-CB is an interesting one!
Mr Kumar said QantasLink would also operate a daily direct Q400 service between Brisbane and Canberra from April 2006, adding more than 1,000 extra seats on the route each week for the Qantas Group.
"The QantasLink flight will depart Canberra at 3.45 pm which is timed to connect with flights to Queensland ports beyond Brisbane.
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Mr Kumar said the Bombardier Q400 featured jet-like speed with new engine and propeller systems.
"Flying at 360 knots, this aircraft reduces flight times compared to our current services, giving us the potential to operate additional frequencies on some sectors," he said.


around 70 seats, 360 knots... two props instead of four hairdryers. the real 146 replacement, doing the old NJS CBR base run.

Will the D8 crew be getting the $120k/$75k pay as well?

Sue Ridgepipe
12th Jan 2006, 02:49
Will the D8 crew be getting the $120k/$75k pay as well?

Tell him he's dreamin' son!

DeafStar
12th Jan 2006, 02:50
5 of 7 in QLD!?!

Rumours were that all 7 were going to Sunstate.

Capn Bloggs
12th Jan 2006, 03:29
the new 72-seat Bombardier Q400, which was both larger and faster than the airline's current Dash 8 fleet,

You mean longer and bumpier...:suspect:

$120k. What, a pay drop?! :}

Detuls
12th Jan 2006, 09:52
Well, hi all you pruners.:) Yep sunnies roll over with their forward moving Reps:yuk: and go from a reported $120k :cool: to $105k:eek: to a reported $92k :mad: to fly this beast of a Dash.So called rumours(sounds familiar),that the Syd crews would fly the beasts.NB: EAA EBA approx 18 mths,rejected,reasons well known.Sunnies rumoured 6 months,voted up,the rest is history as they say.:{ The Sunnies call sign will be heard all over the East & South coast.Click click.

Hellsbells
12th Jan 2006, 22:14
Sunnies' pragmatism is a whole lot more understandable than Eastern's belligerence. Now they get to play with five new aircraft and EEA are still in the wilderness. Great machine for the regional job. Enjoy the ride guys and gals in sunny qld (and to ports further south!).

apacau
12th Jan 2006, 22:31
I am a total outsider to these issues but it occurs to me that if QF get such a better deal out of Sunstate, why not set up a CBR base (long overdue anyway) and operate the last 2 on SYD-CBR as a Sunstate operation? The Oz today states that the last 2 are earmarked primarily for this route.

privateer
12th Jan 2006, 22:32
Was over in the UK recently and flew in a Flybe -400.

As a passenger there is nothing quiet about this aircraft, quite the nosiest cabin I have flown in and a very uncomfortable flight indeed and that was with the active noise on!

Talking with the hosties after the flight they were very uncomplimentary about the -400 all down to the noise. How long before the unions here start having issues on the OHS route?

Sue Ridgepipe
12th Jan 2006, 22:39
Sunnies' pragmatism is a whole lot more understandable than Eastern's belligerence. Now they get to play with five new aircraft and EEA are still in the wilderness.

Wow. What great fun I'm sure theyll have with their new toys!
In fact, they should feel so priveliged to get their new toys, maybe they should fly them for the same pay as the 300s.
But hang on, why stop there. Let's get them to crew Jet* international as well for the same rates. Then they'd get to play with even more new toys. How lucky would they be then? Where do I sign up?

Doctor Smith
12th Jan 2006, 22:43
Bloggs Wrote:
You mean longer and bumpier...
$120k. What, a pay drop?!
QFQuoll Wrote:
Capt. Bloggs you should ask the people who gave you a 1% pay cut and a $15,000 bill, they must have all the answers in the bottom draw.
Touche' :D
HellsBells Wrote:
Sunnies' pragmatism is a whole lot more understandable than Eastern's belligerence.
It's well known that Eastern has been belligerant toward its pilots for some years. If you had seen the document which was full of errors you would understand why it was rejected. Management were rank amateurs to say the least. A 12 year old could've written a better document.
You have little knowledge of EAA matters Hellsbells. As Kumar would say "Thank you, come again".:E

CIA Stooge
13th Jan 2006, 05:09
Eastern and Sunstate amalgamation anyone ...in a few years?

Animalclub
13th Jan 2006, 08:18
Eastern and Sunstate amalgamation anyone ...in a few years?

They are almost now.

1279shp
13th Jan 2006, 10:21
The big Q is a gas hungry SOB too, especially when compared to the ATR72-212 and for the same number of seats. Get that with 5000 a side v 2500!

God help us if ANZ goes mad with the Bombardier order and gets them to replace the ATR! :eek:

Make more sense to go down a Bomardier CRJ700/900 path woudn't it? Now there's a rumour!!!
And not one that aint been heard discussed once or thrice in crew rooms of late! Kinda makes sense with Bomb-ies tie ups with Boing....:ok:

Detuls
13th Jan 2006, 12:58
Well Dr your on the money alright. Hellsbells, some folks like to keep some lifestyle in this crazy game of aviation.I believe the EAA crews have said "enough is enough".Animalclub the time is a coming and now it's coming closer than we all think.As I said before "click click".

DeafStar
15th Jan 2006, 23:42
So anyone reckon that the last 2 Q400's will go to Sunnies with them operating them Sydney Canberra?

Doctor Smith
16th Jan 2006, 00:06
Almost 75% of EAA pilots who voted against the EBA don't care, Deafstar. They believe the rate offered was not realistic. 7% for a 100% increase in capacity? Sums don't quite add up, do they?:yuk:
The company really thinks that the 400s are real morale boosters:} Truth is the troops couldn't give a sh!t:mad:
Morale (or as they call it, ENGAGEMENT) is at an all time low.:* They wouldn't know or care because theyve got their heads so far up their ar$es in the Art Gallery you'd need a proctologist to find it.:eek:

tipsy2
16th Jan 2006, 00:28
"Eastern and Sunstate amalgamation anyone ...in a few years?"

Do you mean like the Southern/Eastern amalgamation of a couple of years ago.

Surely QF are not that clever to realise taking 3 AOC's and 3 infrastructures and making them only 2, then doing it again and making it only 1 would make economic and management sense.

Nah, they are not that clever.

tipsy

CaptHairDryer
16th Jan 2006, 01:44
"Eastern and Sunstate amalgamation anyone ...in a few years?"

Surely QF are not that clever to realise taking 3 AOC's and 3 infrastructures and making them only 2, then doing it again and making it only 1 would make economic and management sense.
Nah, they are not that clever.
tipsy

Why cant' QF buy National Jet and do everyone a favour, surely they can't f**k us up as much as Cobham have. Quick f**k to make a buck I say! Must be bad if repunzel's gone walkabout...

MarkD
16th Jan 2006, 03:53
1279shp

Comparing a Q400 to a ATR72 is not quite fair except at short sector lengths - the Q4 and Saab 2000 are high speed t/ps - Bombardier claims 360 knots for the Q4. I suppose if you stuck PW127s on a Q400 it might be quieter and less fuel hungry but it would do 277 knots, like an ATR 72-200 does.

Plainpilotdriver
16th Jan 2006, 06:45
Speaking of the type: was that 'sunstate 500' heard today in BN a dash-400?

just the facts
16th Jan 2006, 06:52
Yes, they have been flying for a couple of days now, bn up to hba for about an hour navaid work plus circuits, then back to BN.

Trislander
16th Jan 2006, 16:48
The Q400 is actually much quieter then the 146 and many regional jets. The only reason some people think it's louder, is because of the lower frequency of sound compared with jets. It is louder than the Dash Q2/300 but then it has bigger more powerful engines. I work on it for flybe and much it to the 146.
Tri=

alangirvan
21st Jan 2006, 00:50
I have just had a look on Qantas timetables to see the schedules for the
-400s. When I look at Brisbane to Mackay, and click on the green square, it shows the type of aircraft to be a Dash 4 Caribou. Has Qantas subcontracted this service to RAAF?

Also according to the timetable, there will still be a QF 737-400 daily on BNEMKY. ( I looked at 22 May). I thought QF were stopping their own flights to MKY. Has the Mayor of Mackay been rude to them?

MarkD
21st Jan 2006, 23:30
Trislander

are the PW150s cranky or do flybe engine outages just get picked on pprune more quickly?

Still Lookin'......
28th Jan 2006, 05:40
What's the rego of the new Q400 in BN?

The Monst.
28th Jan 2006, 05:48
VH-QOA. :ok:

cranky chicken
3rd Feb 2006, 11:26
Well, hi all you pruners.:) Yep sunnies roll over with their forward moving Reps:yuk: and go from a reported $120k :cool: to $105k:eek: to a reported $92k :mad: to fly this beast of a Dash.So called rumours(sounds familiar),that the Syd crews would fly the beasts.NB: EAA EBA approx 18 mths,rejected,reasons well known.Sunnies rumoured 6 months,voted up,the rest is history as they say.:{ The Sunnies call sign will be heard all over the East & South coast.Click click.


Sunnies did NOT "roll over" in regards to their EBA!!
Be realistic. $120k was a starting point for negotiations and no-one was expecting to get near it! How can you when JQ and NJS prostitute themselves to fly a shiny new jet.:ooh:
7% is better than the 0% QF got for the NG and 2% more than QF got for the 744. I'd say they did a pretty good job, also keeping the current conditions which are better than anyone elses.

triadic
3rd Feb 2006, 11:45
The 2nd -400 left Canada yesterday, via Alaska, Russia, Japan, Guam.

Expected in the country Monday or Tuesday

:ok:

Capt Claret
6th Feb 2006, 07:28
Flying my shiny new jet into Alice today I heard Sunstate (500/900?) departing. I thought they must have done a Buggs Bunny and taken a wrong turn at Albuquerque. :} Perhaps it was the 400 on the way in?

Cranky Chicken

I guess when NJS fire up on the east coast with the rest of JQs 717s you won't be interested then? :hmm:

speedjet
6th Feb 2006, 09:18
Sunstate for the last 4 days have been flying around the Commonwealth Games Queens Baton. It was in Dash 8-200 SDE and it went to Kingaroy, Proserpine, Townsville, Cairns, Mt Isa, Alice Springs before ferrying home to Brisbane via Charleville.

Southern handler
6th Feb 2006, 23:45
so any more rumours on other new routes. First five QLD and a little CBR. What about 6 and 7, maybe mel cbr and LST

Capn Bloggs
7th Feb 2006, 02:29
Claret,
shiny new jet
Get it right. It's the Shiny New TOY.
Yes, it will be good returning to home: BNE-ROK in the SNT:} !
350K at FL250 in outback Oz: nice ride that! :{

Chocks Away
8th Feb 2006, 02:48
CentreBet (Alice Springs) has good odds for the last 2 D400s being CBR based and staffed by Sunnies, on Bris, Ade and Melb runs....
:}