Licenses required for CPL Flight instructor

[philip2004uk]

I really need to know what licences and hours i need to get to CPL instructor although i did want to just be a PPL instructor but someone said the pay is like 230 pound a month well would anyone know what licences i don't need to get for either PPL FI or CPL FI

Thanks:)

[FlyingForFun]

To be a PPL instructor, you will need a PPL, CPL written exams, and a FI rating. To be paid as an instructor you will need a CPL.

To be a CPL instructor, technically you don't need anything more than you need to be a PPL instructor, other than experience (500 hours total time, 200 hours instructing time). But I would guess that the majority of CPL schools would not want to employ you unless you were also able to instruct for IR, which will require you to have an IR and also remove the No Applied Instrument Instruction restriction from your FI rating. Another requirement of most CPL schools would be the requirement to instruct on multi-engine aircraft, for which you will need a multi-engine rating yourself (and a multi-engine IR if you are to instruct for a multi-engine IR), 30 hours of P1 on multi-engine piston aircraft, and then another 5-hour course to become a multi-engine instructor.

You should be able to earn an average of around £800-£1000 a month as a PPL instructor if you work full time - not sure where you got your figure of £230/month, I easily earn double that even in winter.

FFF
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[philip2004uk]

To be a PPL instructor, you will need a PPL, CPL written exams, and a FI rating. To be paid as an instructor you will need a CPL.
To be a CPL instructor, technically you don't need anything more than you need to be a PPL instructor, other than experience (500 hours total time, 200 hours instructing time). But I would guess that the majority of CPL schools would not want to employ you unless you were also able to instruct for IR, which will require you to have an IR and also remove the No Applied Instrument Instruction restriction from your FI rating. Another requirement of most CPL schools would be the requirement to instruct on multi-engine aircraft, for which you will need a multi-engine rating yourself (and a multi-engine IR if you are to instruct for a multi-engine IR), 30 hours of P1 on multi-engine piston aircraft, and then another 5-hour course to become a multi-engine instructor.
You should be able to earn an average of around £800-£1000 a month as a PPL instructor if you work full time - not sure where you got your figure of £230/month, I easily earn double that even in winter.
FFF
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Thanks FFF so i can look at a JAA school either here or in america and just say i need PPL CPL course and FI course for PPL instructor.

Then offcourse i need to hour build so i would do that anywhere:p

Thanks for your help:D

[Gazeem]

Is that correct FFF that you could technically instruct CPL students on a PPL?

Sounds a bit strange.

[BillieBob]

Is that correct FFF that you could technically instruct CPL students on a PPL?No, it isn't but I'm not sure that's what FFF was saying. To instruct for the PPL and to be remunerated, you must hold a CPL, which is also all you need to instruct for the CPL (plus the required experience). The basic rule is that you cannot instruct for something you do not hold yourself.
However, you do not need either an IR or a MEP - there are many CPL training providers who do not use twins and many who are not approved for the IR.
To answer the original question, the minimum qualifications to teach for the CPL are to hold a CPL and unrestricted FI rating with 500hrs total time, of which 200hrs is instructional.

[philip2004uk]

No, it isn't but I'm not sure that's what FFF was saying. To instruct for the PPL and to be remunerated, you must hold a CPL, which is also all you need to instruct for the CPL (plus the required experience). The basic rule is that you cannot instruct for something you do not hold yourself.
However, you do not need either an IR or a MEP - there are many CPL training providers who do not use twins and many who are not approved for the IR.
To answer the original question, the minimum qualifications to teach for the CPL are to hold a CPL and unrestricted FI rating with 500hrs total time, of which 200hrs is instructional.
Hi i forgot to aqsk how many hour buildings will i need? is it aftter ppl that i do the hour building or after cpl i know how much the package is like i choose ppl cpl and flight instructor but i've realised i need more hours so i would have to hour build.

Thanks for all of your help everyone:)

[FlyingForFun]

I'm not sure that's what FFF was saying. To instruct for the PPL and to be remunerated, you must hold a CPL, which is also all you need to instruct for the CPL (plus the required experience).Thanks BillieBob - yes, that's exactly what I meant.

Philip - there are minimum requirements (both total time and P1) time for the CPL, so you will have to do the hour-building before the CPL. You need 150 hours total time to start the CPL, and 200 hours to apply for the license once you complete the course. 100 hours of this must be P1 time.

FFF
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[philip2004uk]

Thanks BillieBob - yes, that's exactly what I meant.
Philip - there are minimum requirements (both total time and P1) time for the CPL, so you will have to do the hour-building before the CPL. You need 150 hours total time to start the CPL, and 200 hours to apply for the license once you complete the course. 100 hours of this must be P1 time.
FFF
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And then when it says i need 200 hours for flight instructor it doesnt mean i need 200 after ive done the 200 for CPL.
how many do i need to build up after CPL do you think?
Sorry that's all my nieve questions out of the way now:p
Thanks for all your help by the way.
I'm gonna live off bread and butter(Jam) for a year so i can save up:p

[philip2004uk]

I think you should download a copy (it's free) of LASORS from the net. It tells you all you need to know.
:ok:
I know i did one time a few weeks ago then again last night but even though i keep on reading it, it never makes sense to me i just stare at it and go into a deep sleep:p