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GULF69
22nd Dec 2005, 14:12
Cessna (i think 150) from Cape Aero Club, ZS-OWF crashed short of runway 19 today. Ran out of fuel apparently.

Details Golfish Jack?

No-one injured luckily

69

Just heard that ZS-KSS, a C172RG also went farming in Stellenbosch.
Nose gear collapsed!

EISH

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alwaysinverted
22nd Dec 2005, 14:23
CT International was very busy this afternoon around lunch time, and at one stage there were 10 aircraft slotted for landing. We were number 7 in line, and shortly after we were cleared to the localiser Rwy 01, the Tower asked us if we could look out for an aircraft that just went down near the threshold of Rwy 01.

We noticed what looked like a Cessna that went down just outside the airport perimeter fence, close to the N2, and it was lying in the trees.

After landing, the pilot called the tower to say "we are both OK". The tower repeatedly called the aircraft ZS-OWF after his call, but no reply, and after vacating the Rwy, we heard that Rescue vehicles were trying to locate them.

Does anybody have any further information on this incident/accident?

Maybe ran out of fuel?????

Spetsnaz
22nd Dec 2005, 16:23
The wind was cross around that time today (300/16) on runway 01, otherwise he might have made it. Not sure why he didn't refuel.

nugpot
22nd Dec 2005, 17:44
Don't you just hate it when the wind is cross. ;)



On Tuesday (20 Jan) we had to hold on base for 02 at BFN while a Chieftain did a wheels-up on 30. Nose gear came down but no luck with mains. Guy did it perfectly with no damage to props or engines, but almost did not make it across intersection.

He was on the way to deliver aircraft to new owner. Plastic covers on seats and all.

Stopped about 100m short of where foam was sprayed on runway. :)

MysticFlyer
23rd Dec 2005, 06:55
Was it the "sedoos" blowing? Also known to be a "mannetjies" wind....:D

Hey but, excess air in the tanks is never a joke!

sky waiter
24th Dec 2005, 15:16
Surely if you know you are low on fuel you call an emergency? or if you dont wana try that fly a tighter approach, no matter how cross the wind is.

Stupid, three most useless things in aviation, sky above you, runway behind you and FUEL in the bowser!

Any more info on KSS think i heard it on the radio later that afternoon, havent herd any other reports. Also belongs to the same club, If im correct. OUCH!:confused:

flyermansam
26th Dec 2005, 21:41
Well, with regards to KSS, i just got to the club when it started up, started it's taxi (on the grass), when the nose gear collapsed. Props bent, but no other damage, except to Stellies lawn and the pilot's ego!!!
Apparently... according to him, he didn't touch the gear lever. But when they pushed the tail down, the nose gear locked!
They stuck a new prop up front and flew it back to CT.

MysticFlyer
27th Dec 2005, 05:57
All's well that ends well.

MF
Ps. Personally, after a propstrike even on the lawn, I'd send the baby's shaft for crack-check, lest you don't carry on bending things, but I know, these things cost money, and lots of it.;)

Solid Rust Twotter
27th Dec 2005, 07:01
Baas MF

One thinks the shock load and crack check is mandatory after a prop strike. A prop strike is possible taxiing through long wet grass according to an AMO one spoke to.:ooh:

That's got to hurt.....

MysticFlyer
27th Dec 2005, 07:18
Hey SRT,

Tongue out of the cheek now.....I thought so too!:ooh:

Ouch.....!!!

KSS - regarding the flight to CT, just Keep it Short & Sweet:hmm:

B Sousa
27th Dec 2005, 09:51
They stuck a new prop up front and flew it back to CT.
Must be one of the Helibase Lawnmower Repairmen......

Prop Strike= Engine Teardown
Then fly

Goldfish Jack
28th Dec 2005, 08:11
I hear the aircraft ran out of fuel - whatever happened to the requirement to carry fuel to your destination + diversion ???

You want to arrive VFR in a busy period at FACT, there is a good chance you might have to wait somewhere. If he was short of fuel why did he not stop at FASH and re-fill or rather leave FACT with sufficient fuel - interesting questions the CAA will be asking I am sure about that..............................

If they guy was short of fuel, why did he not tell the ATC - sure as nuts we will make a plan - even if it means delaying the IFRs. That is the job and we are trained to do that - but if you don't communicate how must we try and work out you have a problem??

If there is a problem - tell the ATC - it is better to communicate and sort the problem out than be late for a funeral.. Why keep it so secretive??

Aviator 1972
13th Jan 2006, 18:13
GFJ
Fear of ATC!!! Bastarts...they have a sword over your head all the time, always crapping on the poor pilots, stuffs you arround, hold you all over, waisting our money...wish they weren't there to delay us!! Pitty some young pilots are being tought this by their instructors!! Being told this as a fact.

Shucks, wonder why some pilot thick such bad things of ATC's.
We are only there because of you. To the best of our abbility we try to accommodate each and every flight with the least delay. My personal motto is..the the quicker/faster I can get an aircraft in or out, the quicker/faster he/she is off the frequency..bearing in mind utmost safety.


A1972

Spetsnaz
14th Jan 2006, 10:21
Put these petty bureaucrats in a small plane, give them garbled instructions, make them orbit until they're dizzy, make a few sarky comments about their flying, add a few go-arounds while on finals for good measure! Perhaps then we will see an improved attitude from ATC?

4HolerPoler
14th Jan 2006, 14:53
Please do not let this spiral into a pilots vs controllers bunfight. I'm inclined to censure a few of the miscreants but am in an ambivalent mood today. Peace brothers - don't rise to the bait. And back to the subject please.

4HP