The truth about NAS

[sassie]

CABIN CREW, here is the whole truth about NAS...run away !!!

First of all they will interview you with completely inexeperienced crew who had for previous experience a couple of years in a previous low cost.

The whole "team" is made of fired crew from other companies. NAS is only collecting their garbage!

2 clans: Al Khayala and BBJ. BBj crew pretend to know more when in fact all they can do is "sale" favors to VIP clients. Most of cabin crew are serious mental cases in all honesty!

The fun game would be to see how long it would take them to destroy your reputation and make you cry...

You will have to wait forever before your training is finally organised. Trainers are complete lunatics (again fired from previous airlines) and training is really really poor.

NAS is definatly not bothered with safety.

When finally you start flying, you will realise that the VIP operation they promised you is actually a regular comercial operation. Only the saudi local flight attendants get to relax, other nationalities will work non stop jed-ruh-jed-ruh-....borring!

If you are black, asian, arab etc...you will be refused. Of course VIP arab men prefers blond hair blue eyes with of course nothing in their head. NAS counts a lot of this type.

Your salary would come late, your per diem as well and your month off....keep dreaming about it! you might be lucky and get the full month but this experience will never happen again before at least 6 months.

Finally when you decide to leave them because they do not respect the contract, they will charge you 6800 dollars for a training which is not worth 1 dollar.

Now you are warned, don't complain when you see this happening to you...

[BBJ-girl]

As one of the BBJ girls mentioned in the email above I feel the need to clarify a few things that this sad- bitter- BBJ-wannabe wrote.-

1) I have have never seen or heard of any members of the crew 'selling favors' to passengers - I am so repulsed that this person would even suggest such a thing. Our passengers are highly-educated, highly respectable and kind people who never cease to impress me with the respect they show us despite being some of the most powerful political figures in the world.

2) There may be a very small number of people in the company that were fired from their previous airline but I cant think of a single one.

3) We have NAS crew that are blonde, brunette, asian, arab, and dark-skinned, caucasion, non-caucasian etc.

4) We do have a few fruit loops in the company but no more mental disorders than any other expat population.... and quite frankly we welcome the entertainment value they provide- it releives some of the boredom of living in Saudi.

5) Two of the NAS operations are AL-Khayala and BBJ. BBJ has been there since the company started and at the beginning was made up of people with previous private flying experience though more and more now there are people without previous VIP experience joining- which we don't resent because quite frankly-it aint brain surgery folks! Mostly the BBJ and AL-KH crew are friendly and alot of them hang out together - though as per human nature people often spend time with the people that they work closely with or that they knew before joining. There are a few bitter sad people who insist that there is a big division between the two groups - most of this is a delusion of their sad insecure little minds and reflects their own inferiority complex not the truth.

6) We have a safety team in the office that we can go to if we have any concerns about safety on board. They have an open door policy and we dont even need to make an appointment to see someone. Brieifings are carried out before flights where safety questions are asked, preflight safety and security checks are carried out on flights along with safety procedures for cabin secure and arming /disarming doors and we have procedures in place to report faulty equipment and flight reports that are written at the end of flights where we can voice any concerns about safety. . Nas does care about safety.

7)The comment about blonde hair-blue-eyes-nothing in the head- is completely unfair and prejudiced. There are just as many brunettes in the company with the lights on and nobody home - (NAS is an equal opportunities employer..)

8) As for 'see how long it would take for them to destroy your reputation and make you cry" - the only person who is trying to do the reputation destroying is the person who wrote that email above. And we know who you are and so consequently you have just destroyed your own reputation. Nice work.

[4HolerPoler]

Good for you BBJ-girl :ok: This site is full of whinging souls bleating about their hard-deal or taking snipes at the companies - it's so refreshing to hear a positive report from someone who's currently in the operation.

4HP

[jaadu]

Way to go BBJ-girl:* :ok:

[6000PIC]

... yeah " and MY Mohamed`s different " ha ha .... have at it girl , when you are older and wiser you`ll say what a mistake THAT was ! Keep talking youself into it , and maybe you`ll believe it.

You are one of thousands.

[mooguy]

BBJ girl whether you like it or not!!

I Worked for this terrible company myslef 5 years ago, and got fired after 3 months, yes, and for a while, my reputation took a hammering. It wasnt until I was safely ensconsed in long term highly thought of job out of switzerland, that members of the bitchy establishement in Nas began saying, how they'd made a mistake about me years ago etc etc, ad nauseum. Too late then.

To anyone else out there reading this thread, Sassie has warned you all, and is not being bitter, merely honest (unfortunately).

BBJ- I hate to douse your enthusiam, but either you have a vested interest in defending this shoddy company, or you are new and still full of hope, or maybe you just have you head in the sand??? The management with nas were reknowned for brainwashing...

Good post Sassie....

[BBJ-girl]

A couple of things Mooguy -
Firstly NAS started up 3 years ago so I dont know who you were working for but it cant have been this op.

Secondly Ive been with NAS for two years so definately not new and enthusiastic and if you read my post I am not disagreeing with everything that "Sassie" has to say about NAS - just the things that are outright lies and which reflect back on myself. Sassie claims that BBJ-girls sell favours to passengers which is an outright lie, plus she doesnt work on the BBJ aircraft, has never been on it and is based out of Jeddah most of the time so has not spent a huge amount of time in Riyadh where we are based, she is not friends with any of the BBJ girls and doesn't know any of us or our passengers-SO how can she claim that this is going on on our aircraft??? What part of that do you see as being honest??!! Only a bitter person would make something like that up. If there was even a hint of truth in what she said then I wouldn't be writing this post and actually I was scared of coming to Saudi to begin with because of stories that Id heard, but in the two years Ive been here I've seen and experienced NOTHING dodgy going on and its disgusting that someone can just make something like that up and put it on the internet.

Oh and 6000PIC for the record I've been in the Middle East for 7 years and never dated an arab or anyone called Mohammed -Im just trying to work hard , make an honest living so I can go home to normal civilisation, buy a house and settle down so don't patronize me 'My Mohamed's different' when you've never met me and don't know anything about me.

[mooguy]

Righto.

To put a few things straight here- in 2001 actually (4 1/2 years ago) I was hired by nas aka netjets middle east. Although we thought we were NJME in fact our salaries, per diems, even IDs all said Nas. I heard Netjets Middle east have since objected to Nas using their name? Is that true?

We were interviewed at Flight Safety, le bourget, and trained out in Columbus ohio, then Savannah on the gulfstream.

We operated Falcons and gulfstreams, and the company then had Hawkers, which at that time were not manned by flight attendants.

A lot of the girls hired then were ex amiri royal flight, in fact the chief flight attendant in jeddah had worked their for years, until she ran out of minister "boyfriends" She was rather notorious in her day. As per a lot of organisations, most girls were exactly like you and me, never having an arab boyfriend but trying to save our hard earned cash for a normal life back home. There were a few who got up to tricks, but not as far as I knew with the pax.

The company paid lip service to safety, however were not really on the ball in that aspect in my opinion. The perdiems were ALWAYS late, and there were tropical rainforests amounts of paperwork awaiting us at the end of each flight, silly trite questionaires asking us (no kidding) to fill in how much each pax ate, drank etc etc, the company was crippled by micromanagement in those days. Everyone I knew left, or was fired. The BBJS came along after I left, and I know girls who worked on them. I also subsequently flew with pilots who had been hired to work up in riyadh, yet just sat, and sat, and sat, with very little happening. This would have been about 2003. The turnover of crew was astounding.

Enjoy your time with them while you can, and make hay while the sun shines, for you can be sure you will eventually get disillusioned.