SIA DEC

[Gypsy]

Does anyone have info on recent 777 DEC recruitment - I meet all the requirements and applied sometime ago but so far no word not even an acknowledgement of the application being received - is this normal?

[kk pilot]

been 15 months for me so far - and I was qualed too. It took 8 months to even get the interview - finally getting some response that I might be getting closer. Cargo is MUCH quicker

[411A]

The hiring process must take a lot longer nowadays than when I was there.
For yours truly...
DEC application sent one week, interview with the DFO the next in London, and travelled out to Singapore a week later.
Sim/line training took four weeks, tops.
Of course, I arrived fully qualified and current, which helped, I'm sure.
At SQ, some things never change, especially their inability to recruit in a timely fashion, when the need becomes remotely apparent.
When I applied, they were cancelling flights due to a shortage of DEC's.:}

[fullforward]

Check your PM, please.

[PIA747]

L1011 DEC. This has to be before 1996 i assume. October 1996 was the last month of L1011 service with Cathay.

[Capt.Bee]

Hi Gypcy,
Some facts dear friend!
Application Aug 2004 (hard copy).November same year, received message that my application is registered and currently receiving attention. Interview - June 2005. Interview,SIM,Medical all done and cleared. Well, I'm still waiting for the magical call. Might be useful for some of you mates, to know that. So keep your fingers crossed and be patient. At least this is what I'm doing.I know, not much of a help. Sorry.....

[Kaptin M]

Care to enlighten us as to what year you scored your DEC position with SQ, 411A? :O

[filejw]

Had to be around 1944.LOL: :O

[BlueEagle]

I think you'll find that 411A was with SIA on the B707 which came into service with the then MSA in 1968 and stayed for a while!
SIA didn't operate the L1011 TriStar, PIA747, that was CX.

[411A]

Indeed it was the 'ole 707, Blue Eagle, circa mid-seventies.
Then, the 707 was the larger fleet, with the 747's close behind.

Ah, the good 'ole days.:}

Same general style of management, then as now.
Many of the 707 guys joining were recently retired from BA, and retraining on the 707 was a bit of a letdown, according to them anyway.
A regular revolving door with these folks, as nearly all left within two years.

[Capt.Bee]

Come on guys don't be shy. Give it a try. Anyone knows something more about upcoming DEC 777 course,or whatever rumor........Please ....

[kk pilot]

check your pm's Capt Bee

[Capt.Bee]

Thanks a lot buddy. Almost same info.
Good luck and blue skys!
Capt.Bee
P.S. Worth it... !? I hope so,man.

[Gypsy]

Can you share the info please?

[Capt.Bee]

Gypsy,I"ll help you by bringing the topic back on top. I would like to tell you that it's to early for you to ask for other information. Read again my post above.It takes time....plenty of...
Good luck !!!

[huangmonkey]

hi all I am 18 years old and a private pilot from the singapore youth flying club. The airforce is offering me a career as a pilot but many people have said that it would be better to go straight to the airlines as there is where I would want to end up in and it is difficult to make the switch from the airforce to the airlines. What is your advice? Thanks

[Thermal Image]

This is not the correct thread. It is not polite to hijack someone else's thread.

Start another thread and I will respond.

[winglet_fever]

huangmonkey,

first of all, SIA CAN'T take you in unless you are 26+ (for Singaporeans).

secondly, to cross over from airforce is not easy but i've seen many, and i mean many. the waiting period to be released from airforce is long but some for them chosed to quit airforce with one month notice, then apply for SIA direct.

one of the few differences between the options mentioned above are pay received during training. a difference of about 2k per month.

hope that helps.. go find out more about all these admin stuff from friends or thru instructors at YFC. if not mistaken, some of them were ex airforce instructors.

I too had a lot of trouble digging for aviation related information when i first started out. =)

[huangmonkey]

Thanks winglet for your reply. I've started mine own thread now http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=204467 I apologise for disrupting the thread

[cub71]

The reason for the stop in recruitment is the delay on the A380's. The A380 will be crewed with people from the 777, and that will create openings there.

[BlueEagle]

Cub71 - Not 100% certain but I think you will find that the A380 will, initially at any rate, be crewed by pilots who already have considerable Airbus experience and the most likely candidates are the current A340-500 guys and those who have previously flown the basic A340 with SIA.

The B777 fleet is an expanding fleet so less likely to shed pilots to the A380 than the B744 pax fleet, for example.

[Capt.Bee]

Well, with Singapore Airlines you never know what it is in their mind.A friend of mine who joined the company 4-5 years ago as A340/300 DEC (at that time he was A320 Skipper)for about 3 years changed the equipment three times.First A340/300,(the aircraft was phased out due to miserable performance).An year later transition to 747/400 (never flown Boeing before) for less than a year, to follow another transition to A340/500 Skipper. Interesting,isn't it? Another friend two months ago signed a new contract, transition from 777 to 747/400(the day before to start the ground course),to be informed on the very following day that he is to stay with 777,
because of Captains shortage. Bottom line,the company makes a very bold steps crediting their pilots professionalism and transferring them according its operational needs. Needless to say that this is probably the only company recruiting pilots from 737 and A320 for DEC 777 and A340/500. So, how they going to crew their new A380 nobody knows.But for sure plenty of 777 Skippers are going to change the cockpit,even with no Airbus experience. The seniority probably also say so. Anyway, we'll see it very soon.

[Round D. Globe]

Any update from those of you awaiting a word on your apps?

I meet the quals on the website and just sent off my app. as well.
Sounds like I'm in for a long wait. If anyone has any interview info
as well. I'd sure appreciate the info.

Cheers

[bluepacific]

Please count me in as well. I would appreciate any info on the recruitment process.
Also, the web site states what one gets as far as allowances etc but what does this mean as far as nett salaries are concerned. Thanks in advance.
BP:)

[greySkies]

Also have my App in, fingers crossed.. by the way does anyone have any income tax figures,, would be appreciated the only info I could find on the web was starting at around 2% for 7500 up to 26% for 400,000 $S :ouch:

[BlueEagle]

If you work on a figure of 22% tax payable on the grand total of salary and taxable allowances etc. you won't be far out. That is 22% from the ground up.

[EL CAPITAN]

If you don't mind blueeagle what are the taxable allowances???is the housing allowance taxable for example??? thanks in advance..............The Cap

[millerscourt]

EL CAPITAN

Everything is taxed in SQ except downroute allowances.so Housing, free ticket, ID90's ( ID 75 only for Cargo!!) Bonus, School Fee allowance all are taxable. Having said that the tax is lower than in most countries. First $160,000 of salary tax is $16,600 Next $160,000 19%

Tax is payable about 18months in arrears so you need to put away your 13 month salary and bonus away for tax depending on amount of Bonus.

[bluepacific]

So with meal allowances, etc what is the salary per month on average, working average hours per month ?