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gassed budgie
15th Nov 2005, 02:00
First of all I have to admit my ignorance regards this matter. I operate from a field that has always had an RPT service so I grudgingly accepted the fact that an ASIC would be needed. I never concerned myself too much about which other aerodromes you needed one at for the simple fact that if I had to have one, well I had to have one regardless of which aerodrome I flew into.
I was looking at the revamped 639 form and happened to click on the link to the security controlled airports and was staggered at the number of aerodromes that are now noted and even more surprised at some of the ones that make the list. Make sure you have a look.
All reason and common sense seems to have well and truly flown right out the window.
Places such as Quilpie, Birdsville, Cunnamulla and Walgett for Gods sake, make the list.
So it appears that because someone provides an RPT service flying in and out once a day in a clapped out 310 we are now obliged to have an ASIC, otherwise we could be fined heavily or even worse.
Farmer Brown and his family who have lived out on their station for two or three generations and only fly between there and Cunnamulla for example, now need an ASIC.
If you fly around the countries interior and need to stop off for fuel as inevitably you will, you will more than likely need an ASIC.
As far as I was concerned ASIC’s were something that were needed to facilitate you operating from the countries primary and secondary airports and some of the major regional centres. They were not and should not be required to fly into places like Bedourie or Elcho Island.
We have to strike an even balance between the perceived security threat to oneself and to the country, and to ones ability to move around the country and go about ones business without undue and unnecessary interference.
The bottom line is I’ve got more chance of being run over and killed by the local hoons in Walgett than I have by being blown up by some despotic little terrorist crawling out from under a rock at the same place.
We’ve had more legislation introduced and passed into law in the last twenty years than we’ve had between Federation and 1985.
The current ASIC situation is an example of how badly drafted and rushed through legislation can have stifling and unintended consequences (the Privacy Act is another example of this).
The pendulum has swung too far.

185skywagon
15th Nov 2005, 23:44
gassed budgie,
we had a bit of back and forth in hereafter thread.
It seems that most people are going to lie down and take it with out doing anything to stop this rot.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&
185threadid=196883 (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=196883)

J430
16th Nov 2005, 01:53
Guys,

This is all true.... but how do you stop it? Its all too hard is the problem and in the time it takes to stop it...its in! And you need your card. then once you have it the perception is changed and you give up on changing it.

J:yuk: