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con-pilot
5th Nov 2005, 16:37
A Cessna Citation has just crashed at Houston Hobby (KHOU) airport. First pictures look really, really bad. I cannot see how there could have been any survivors.

I am waiting for more details.

Edited with update;Apparently only two persons on board, at this time it is assumed it was the pilots only, (some Citations are approved for single pilot operations in the US) and it has been confirmed that they did not survive.


First report is that a Boeing 737 had declared an emergency and was on approach to the runway the Citation was on, for reasons unknown at this time as the Citation was attempting to vacate the runway for the 73 in distress it crashed. There are mixed reports that the Citation actually took-off and was in a tight turn when it crashed. The 73 was diverted to Houston International (KIAH) where it landed without incident. The name of the airline has not been released at this time.

flynverted
5th Nov 2005, 16:56
Fox News is reporting 2 fatal on the Citation. :(

con-pilot
5th Nov 2005, 17:18
There is a new report that the crash was a result of a mid-air between the Citation and a Southwest 737.

THIS HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED.

In any case the 737, no matter what its involvement was, landed at KIAH.

cringe
5th Nov 2005, 17:24
An early news report quoting a fire department chief: "it (the Cessna) plunged nose first, tumbled over and skidded nearly 300 feet in the middle of the airport runway".

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3441002

VC10 Rib22
6th Nov 2005, 03:42
Condolences to the families of the deceased.

Notwithstanding the tragedy of the loss of life, I hope that the severe time constraints experienced by the crew didn't cause them to make a human error. The end result being the same, I would rather my relatives know I died because of extreme handling difficulties relating to engine or some other mechanical failure, than because I didn't operate some system IAW the operating manual due to the pressure of the incoming 737 and ATC calls. Time will tell.

VC10 Rib22

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barit1
6th Nov 2005, 15:04
Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3441710) update

V1 Rotate
6th Nov 2005, 15:51
a door come open, perhaps ?
V1

sikeano
6th Nov 2005, 18:32
is this mordern jorno gone wrong or my understanding of english bad

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As the small business jet was waiting to take off on runway 22 shortly before 10 a.m., an incoming Southwest 737 issued an alert because of engine trouble, said Tommy Dowdy, district chief for the Houston Fire Department.

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The pilot of the Southwest flight witnessed the Cessna crash from about 7.5 miles away from the airport, according to Southwest spokeswoman Paula Berg.

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er hello

:confused:

discostu
6th Nov 2005, 18:54
The report has not been written in the best English, but from my understanding the SW737 was returning to the airfield with a fuel overheat warning light.
The Citation departed ahead of the inbound 737 & then got into difficulty itself, (cause unknown), neccessitating a return to the field.
The Citation made it's approach, again ahead of the inbound 737, but the pilot lost control & the a/c crashed into the runway.

The 737 was then diverted to Houston Intercontinental, where it made a safe arrival.

Condolences to the families of those involved.

Paterbrat
7th Nov 2005, 11:16
Sounds very unfortunate will await further details. Have been in and out of Hobby, busy. Know what type of Citation Con?

Condolances to family and friends

FLEXJET
7th Nov 2005, 13:20
It was N505K, a Citation 500, a 1972 model, s/n 0004

180 Too Fower
7th Nov 2005, 14:25
Here it is:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20051105-0

barit1
11th Nov 2005, 13:52
NTSB preliminary (http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20051110X01829&key=1)