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Bingo fuel
14th Jun 2001, 00:13
Are there among us folks who fly or did fly ultra light helicopters??

To fly different type of helicopter you need
a type-rating for each one of them.
Someone offered my to fly his ultra light
helo but the thing that I'm concerned about, besides it's performance, is how to get a type rating for this helo.

There's only place for one POB in this helo but someone has to taech me. I wonder how....

Second of all, if once you have a type rating for such a helo, are you allowed to
cumulate the hours with the others hours build up with "normal" helicopters????

If someone could inform me,I would really
appreciate that.

Kyrilian
14th Jun 2001, 03:15
I'm not familiar with the CAA and JAA rules for this, but the US FAA does not consider ultralight aircraft (I've only seen airplanes but I don't see why a helicopter or gyrocopter wouldn't be allowed) to be certificated aircraft. So if it has no registration then you can't log the time. If it has an N-number, it's not considered an ultralight and rules for kit/homebuilt aircraft apply (if it was in fact built by an amateur).
As for type ratings, in the US, they are not required unless you're flying a turbojet airplane or if it is rather large (>12,500 lbs?) If you're a student you'll have to be signed off for each make and model to fly solo. If I understand correctly, this may be done in a single seat aircraft by allowing that the instructor give ground instruction and be in a position from which he/she may observe the flight in the flight phase (from the ground or in another aircraft).

Vfrpilotpb
17th Jun 2001, 13:52
BF,
I have a feeling that the Ultra-lights come under the control of the PFA, something about the weight or design, sorry to be vague but you may get a comprehensive answer from the PFA if you rang them, or put your question direct to the CAA GA dept Tel number I think is 02073 797311(UK)

elpirata
17th Jun 2001, 19:59
last time I looked into this, there was only 1 kit build certified in the UK, i.e the Rotorway Exec, on a Permit to Fly Basis,

I also understand the PFA deal with this now, but I dont think there is anything else you can legally fly in the UK, smaller than the R22, I was aware that Masquito aircraft from belgium were looking for certification here of the M80 (or something like that), but I dont know if they ever achieved it.

anyone know of the state of play about these ultralights



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Dave Jackson
18th Jun 2001, 21:29
The U.S. ultralight weight limitation is 254 pounds. If you're interested, the following is a list of helicopters that comply.

http://www.ultrasport.rotor.com/
http://www.rotorlite.com/
http://www.engineeringsystem.co.jp/Prd_GENH-4.html

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[This message has been edited by Dave Jackson (edited 18 June 2001).]