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MerryDown
21st Oct 2005, 21:22
Have a go people.......................anyone able to explain why?


http://www.patmedia.net/marklevinson/cool/cool_illusion.html

tall and tasty
21st Oct 2005, 22:39
Possibly to do with your rods and cones in the retina but not sure.

But is you look to the side you actually see green and pink dots going around even stranger

This may explain it for you

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/vision/rodcone.html

or google rods and cones of the eye and numerous good sites come up

TnT

Whirlygig
21st Oct 2005, 22:46
Yup.

The rods do light and dark, the cones do colour. Cones are concentrated around the fovea at the back of the retina whereas the rods are over the rest of the retina. So when you stare at a black cross, the image of which is being centred on the fovea (where the cones are), the rods, which pick up the rotating circles, can't distinuguish the colour. Not sure why one remains though and why it is the complementary colour - haven't got to that chapter yet!!

This is why if light levels are low, you should look slightly away from the object which you actually want to see because the rods are not plentiful at the fovea.

Or something like that!

Cheers

Whirls

SASless
21st Oct 2005, 23:26
Whirls,

I am beginning to worry about you.;)

Whirlygig
21st Oct 2005, 23:31
Aw Sassy, that's awfully sweet! But why worry? Surely Human Factors and Pilot Performance forms part of your bed-time reading too!

Cheers

Whirls

Thomas coupling
21st Oct 2005, 23:48
Doesn't happen to color blind persons. They cant see the change to green.....

PhilJ
22nd Oct 2005, 03:32
More optical illusions and explanations than you could ever want here:

http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/

scroll down to colour and lilac chaser

Farmer 1
22nd Oct 2005, 06:54
I understand about the dots, but where do the elephants come in?

Bertie Thruster
22nd Oct 2005, 10:42
How do you tell an elephant from a grape?

Farmer 1
22nd Oct 2005, 10:51
Talking of elephants, how do you get down from one?

cyclicmicky
22nd Oct 2005, 11:23
How do you know if an elephant has been in your fridge?


Footprints in the butter:}

How do you know if two elephants have been in your fridge?

Two sets of footprints in the butter:D

How do you get four elephants in a mini?

two in the front two in the back:O

How do you know if four elephants have been in your fridge?

Theres a mini parked outside:E :8

Farmer 1
22nd Oct 2005, 11:28
How do you get four elephants in a mini? You use a potfer, stupid!

Devil 49
22nd Oct 2005, 12:21
Great stuff, and I'm going to spend some time exploring this.

A number of years ago, I saw one of these that demonstrated the blind spot and the brain's effort to compensate. It was a plaid field with a gray area. When your gaze was directed at a certain point, your blind spot covered the grey, and the brain's visual processing filled it in with the surrounding plaid pattern. Anybody else seen it, can you name it? Or better yet, provide a link?

Bertie Thruster
22nd Oct 2005, 16:03
Ah, grey areas!

Elephants are grey

Grapes are mostly green.


So how do you tell the difference if you are colourblind?

Simon853
23rd Oct 2005, 12:50
I read somewhere years ago that the sensitivity of the rods is almost into the near infra-red, and that "they" believe some peoples vision might extend into it. Of course you wouldn't actually see the white-hot kind of enhanced nightvision picture we're familiar with, you simply get an impression there was something there in the dark.

Anyone know if this is true?

Si

petitfromage
23rd Oct 2005, 14:27
Whirlygig is absolutely correct! Well done.
Its known as the Troxler Effect.

Fovea? Thats an awfully dirty word.

Whirlygig
23rd Oct 2005, 16:51
I'm sorry, I didn't realise I was talking dirty but I'll continue if you want.

Cheers

Whirly (fovea) gig

23rd Oct 2005, 18:26
No petitfromage... crevice is a dirty word.