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Dutchbird
10th Oct 2005, 15:36
Help wanted...

Is there anyone out there who knows a JAA approved FTO in the USA where you can do the AS365N3 type rating WITH an instrument rating??

I'm out of options in Europe, so if there is anyone who knows if this is an option in the USA, please let me know...

THNX!

Revolutionary
10th Oct 2005, 16:36
Dutchbird,

That's going to be difficult: there is no FAA typerating required for this type and thus no school that operates one. Very few American schools are JAA FTO's anyway. You could try giving Patrick Corr a call at Helicopter Adventures (http://www.heli.com) in Florida. They can certainly do the instrument rating for you and they are a JAA approved FTO.

Veel succes ermee en de groeten,

Revolutionary

Spunk
10th Oct 2005, 17:47
Hi Dutchbird,

have you tried Dancopter (http://www.dancopter.dk) ??

I don't know if they are an approved FTO but at least they should have an approved training syllabus based on their AOC.

You should give it a try and call them. They are very helpful and maybe they can help you.

rotorrookie
10th Oct 2005, 22:42
This question has been asked here before, check this link out. link (http://pprune.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=180829&highlight=jaa)

212man
10th Oct 2005, 23:29
It's a TRTO you require, not an FTO. You could try checking the various JAA countries' CAA websites for approved TRTO companies and you may find one listed in the USA ( I have to say, I doubt it though!). The UK CAA has a document listing the the UK approved ones:

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/SRG_FCL_APPROVEDFTOS.PDF

Would the NL accept Helisim as a training provider?

L'WAAPAM
11th Oct 2005, 20:21
I thought you could do JAA Type Ratings with FlightSafety, is this not the case?

L'

212man
11th Oct 2005, 23:14
Only if they train on the type you want! FSI Do not have an AS365 sim; the only one in the world is at Helisim and they are not a TRTO, as yet (though the course is structured to meet FCL-2 requirements).

Hedski
12th Oct 2005, 07:09
No JAR IR(H) in USA. For 365 try CHC, PDG in Inverness or I can give you contact in London area if you PM me with details/dates. Hope this helps. H

SASless
12th Oct 2005, 07:22
Let me guess....prospective employer is saying..."ah...if you just had xxxxxxx type on your license we would be glad to hire you."

What a shame if that is true!

What happened to the concept of locating good help...recruiting them...training them....treating them right and ultimately giving them a gold watch at their retirement do?

212man
12th Oct 2005, 07:40
"................ultimately giving them a gold watch at their retirement do?"

Still being worn, or in a box????!:\

rotorrookie
12th Oct 2005, 23:50
SASless that is just how it is today in many cases, if you don't show up with IR and the right type... then don't bother to apply for the job...even though it's just a "switch bitch" job for some experienced captain. Then the JAA rules are not helping by not allowing SEP helicopters like H-300 or R-22 to be used for IR training. And not many student pilots or those of us who have just finished CPL like my self can afford to take IR on B-206(at Bristow) or AS-355 here in Europe, not to mention doing type ratings like AS-365. :rolleyes:

jeepys
13th Oct 2005, 11:54
For gods sake we dont want any more IR training done on the R22. People crash them too often in good weather let alone IMC. A good IR course is going to cost but it should be worth it. If you want to earn money when every other VFR jockey is grounded then it's the only way.

Dutchbird
13th Oct 2005, 16:36
Thanks u all for the info so far. I had a gut feeling that doing a JAA ME/IR in the USA was not an option... I've been told that having a SE/IR already like my case, this would save hours to make on the ME/IR part... But then again, this probably would cost me a fortune...

And thats just what is missing, spend it all doing my SE/IR :{