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Diabolo
8th Oct 2005, 17:59
Hurt an airplane div to LTBA today mention "door problems"
Any infos ??

Volume
11th Oct 2005, 05:38
Seems to be MNG 297 (AYT-CGN)
Emergency landing at LTBA after inflight door-opening.

German Newspaper Report (http://www.koeln.de/cms/artikel.php/1/24846/artikel.html)

Babel-Fish Translation :

The home flight from the sun vacation from Antalya to Cologne/Bonn became on Saturday morning for 257 passengers of the Turkish airline MNG the true Albtraum. After a forced landing in Istanbul the shocked holiday-makers had to wait for hours for their return to Germany and landed only in the Sunday evening at 21:35 o'clock on the airport Cologne/Bonn. Briefly after the start at 7:00 o'clock the airbus MNG 297 was guessed/advised in the roll and with violent seideways-movement only at the end of the runway taken off. According to reports of the Cologne express a cab door and a hostess opened vesuchte loud at assistance crying the door to close in the rear part of the airplane. Many passengers came into panic and had to stand fears of death, until the pilot the defective machine in Istanbul made an emergency landing. But after the landing there was no psychological or medical assistance for the passengers in Instanbul. A spokeswoman of the MNG denied that it had concerned forced landing. A change of the machine was decided for "commercial" reasons, is called it in Bonn general indicators. For the Turkish airline MNG the forced landing was not in Istanbul on Saturday the first incident. On a flight from Antalya to Hamburg a machine in Romania had to make an emergency landing, because smoke in the cab had developed.

Flying Mech
13th Oct 2005, 21:58
Volume;
The english translation is not great but am I right in the assumption that the paper claims that the plane took off and sometime during climb one of the aft pax/service doors opened?. was it an A300B4/-600 or A320 airplane?. I have worked on all these types for many years and never heard of one of these doors opening in flight. they will creak and groan a bit like every Airbus Pax door will do but generally speaking very reliable and no problems with tis design which came from the BAC 1-11.

the_hawk
13th Oct 2005, 22:57
newspaper reports say A310 (OTOH, aerotransport.org doesn't show A310 for MNG)

The problem is until now there are only reports from pax and they were saying it was an aft pax door (maybe not sealed correctly) and that it got cold, even after the CC managed to "fix" the door problem.

EDIT: found on a german spotter forum
Flug MNB 297
ANTALYA (AYT) / Türkei
MNG AIRLINES Airbus A300 B4 /c4 P <= 270 Sitzplaetze
Ankunft 13. August 09:20

Volume
14th Oct 2005, 06:41
A search in airliners.net with the combination "Airbus" and "MNG" results in just A300B4 findings, so I assume this is the only type MNG operates.
In a Swiss Spotter Forum (http://www.flightforum.ch/forum/showthread.php?t=37660) one pax reports about a flight AYT-ZRH in a MNG A300B4 a few days before the incident. He describes the same yaw oscilations as referred to in the report during the flight, sometimes violent ones. He was seated at the emergency exit (a type 1 exit right behind the wing) and reported air leaks at the door. Might have been the same plane. Violent yaw oscilation may result in slight fuselage deformation and hence some relative movement between the door and the door frame, which cold lead to wear on the locking mechanism.
But this is pure speculation.
If the Airline rates this ´event´ not as an incident, probably no investigation nor a report will reveal details.

MaxBlow
15th Oct 2005, 13:27
Vol.,

Read your post and understand that, you assume it might have been probably pure speculation which could (will) lead to confusion.:confused:

We all know that some Turkish have rather poor standards but I refuse to believe that a ground engineer would release an acft
with an previous known door problem again for service...wouldn't they ?! Or would they?:yuk: