View Full Version : Aussie Medical - Not valid for rotory wing
W84me
26th Jan 2002, 18:12
Hi all,. .I have held a Class 1 medical since 1992 and fly fixed wing for a living. I would like get my helicopter licence now but my last medical came with a condition. "Not valid for Rotory wing".. .It is like getting blood from a rock trying to get something out of CASA. Any ideas from you guys would be great.
Nick Lappos
27th Jan 2002, 00:08
W84me,. .Could it be you are too smart to fly helos? <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
W84me , take it as a good omen, can't think of any reason why any self respecting fixed wing guy would want to fly helos. Most rotary guys I know are a little qwirky ,a little qwirky ,a little qwirky. Hell what am I saying a lot qwirky.
chips_with_everything
27th Jan 2002, 10:29
The CASA won't say why your medical prohibits RW flying? Seems weird. Maybe an error.
If CASA won't respond to a letter then perhaps you should ask your medical examiner.
If nothing comes from him/her- then I'd go for legal advice.
W84me
27th Jan 2002, 16:38
Thank's guys, I know one with both eyes and right eye I can see the bottom line on the eye chart. with the left eye it is the 3 bottom line. That is all I can think off. A mate takes me up in a BK117 and a B206 and now I am hooked on choppers. <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">
B Sousa
28th Jan 2002, 03:24
Im sure it had to do with certain requirements to be able to fly helicopters. Did you enter the office with a flowing scarf, big watch and attempt to grope the nurse?? Those are things that doctors look for when seperating the fixed wing or boring folks from the real adventurers...Remember Helicopters and Herds of Sheep go together...
helmet fire
28th Jan 2002, 04:02
....and did you have your wallet with you? It was probably way too fat to be rotary wing acceptable....
. ....or perhaps it was like Catch 22. Anyone who admits they WANT to fly a helicopter is clearly way too crazy and messed up to be allowed to fly a helicopter....
:)
Arm out the window
29th Jan 2002, 07:41
A DAME would have to comment on whether there's differences in the standard of medical exam they give you for fixed vs. rotary, but my guess is that the form you fill in with the boxes ticked about what kind of flying you do probably gets entered straight into the computer at CASA, and it just spits out your medical form as per that.
I can't imagine there would be much difference in the required serviceability of your bodily systems for each kind of flying.
Robbo Jock
29th Jan 2002, 17:08
Certainly in the UK, for a Class 1 Helicopter medical, you used to have to have an EKG (I think it's called) where they stuck electrodes to your head and flashed lights in your eyes, to see if you were susceptible to 'flicker vertigo'. Their reasoning being (as I recall) that the rate at which blades (particularly in two bladed systems) flick across your field of view is slap bang in the middle of the range in which humans are most affected - bung the sun just above the disk and the pilot (one hopes!) just below it and blam! you have the chance of an epileptic fit at the controls.. .I don't know if JAR has scrapped this or, indeed, if they had or have it in the Southern Hemisphere, but it is one difference between Fixed-Wing and Rotary we up North (used to?) have.
Big Beres
30th Jan 2002, 06:51
Don't you Fixed wing guys get 'flicker Vertigo' when you when you do loops??!!
I've heard of heli students getting 'vertigo' when they hand over the money for their training, I remember handing over the 'Amber Liquid' as well, eh Big Jim...
. ."Big Jim how is Snow White? dude,"
W84me
30th Jan 2002, 18:14
G'day guys,. .I am talking to a DAME at the moment trying to sort this out, I know what you mean with the vertigo. Landing a single engine plane on dusk into the sun and once the power is back to near idle the sun will flicker through the props. I went out to a ship in the 206 yestie with the boss and am still keen on being a Helicopter pilot. <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">