EAST MIDLANDS

[egnxema]

easyboy - do you know when the final Airbus will arrive to complete the change?

[Mike16]

Hi Guys


Well with Ryanair coming in March 06. does anyone know how they recruit ? will they advertise locally in the papers like the Derby evening telegraph, Leics mercury or notts post ?

What about flight deck jobs ? surely they may get some ezy or bmi guys now, i have seen on another pprune chat that fr are in line to get the new tenerrife north flights from April 06, and that one is lined up for EMA !!!!
There is no mention of this on there website or EMA's ,does anyone out there know anyhting different ?

Well talking to one of my old work colleagues today at EZY, i beleive the final Airbus will be coming next week, they now have 2 here at EMA and the set will be complete from next week.

Take care all

Mike

[egnxema]

Nottingham East Midlands - Nice cancelled during winter schedule

bmi Nottingham East Midlands to Nice service (BD289, BD290) will not operate during their winter schedule, 30 October - 25 March 06.

[Mike16]

Hi

Does anyone know anything at all about the ryanair recruitment side of things ?

Also does any know how FCA have done this summer with there long haul programme from EMA to dom, mex and orlando ?

I think it must have been a success,as when i enquired about a holiday to mex from ema, the flight was fully booked up !

Take care guy's

Mike

[thomsonfly.com]

Information for Ryanair's recruitment at Nottingham EMA is available as always at ryanair.com. Ryanair do indeed insist that you pay for your own course & uniform, but this doesn't stop an endless stream of interested (mostly Eastern & Southern European) potential flight attendants from applying.

Other airlines that are hiring for summer 2006 at EMA are Thomsonfly & Thomas Cook.

[easyboy]

Hi egnxema,

Sorry for the delay in replying, roumer has it the final Airbus arrives on Monday the 10th October pm. But that could change.

easyBoy

[GrahamK]

New flights to Preveza in Greece next summer.

[30W]

Mike16,

I've only flown 4 FCA LH rotations this summer, but all have been full, and all VERY happy with the new interior. Same destinations, different days on the program for S06.

30W

[Mike16]

Hi

30w many thanks to your reply, i am so glad it has worked well this year for FCA, i take my hat of to them.

Are they still doing the same destinations for next year then ?
and how will the dates go for the flights ?

Are you based at EMA, as i have applied for a crew position with them for next year, it would bhe nice to do some long haul on the way. :D :D :D

Take care all

michael

P.S where is preveza, i know it is greece, but whereabout's lol

[GrahamK]

I think Preveza is north of Corfu? About 3.5 hrs flying time from the UK

[Map_Shift]

Preveza is on the Greek mainland, SE of Corfu and NE of Kefallonia.

[30W]

Mike16,

S06 plan currently:

EMA-CUN Fortnightly 1May-30Oct (Monday)
EMA-SFB Weekly 2May-31Oct (Tuesday)
EMA-PUJ Fortnightly 10May-25Oct (Wednesday)

Crewing of these flts is supposed to be with BHX Flt Deck (only happened half of this summer due BHX flt deck shortage). Cabin crew are used from both BHX and EMA for these flights.

Most of these rotations are 'bullets' Mike, staying only overnight, and operating back to UK next day (mainly GLA), then position to home base. They are no 'jolly' rest assured and your following days off will be fully utilised recovering........

30W

[egnxema]

As previously posted EZY to end EDI on 30OCT.

WW to introduce a 3rd flight on weekdays (ex TUE) in the middle of the day.

WW making a big song and dance about "being the midlands' biggest LoCo", but all I can hear is "Blah blah blah blah I'm a dirty tramp!"

:sad:

[bmibabyfc]

egnxema,

hmm take it you dont like the baby then!!

why shudnt we make a "big song and dance about being the midlands' biggest LoCo" - fact of the matter is WE ARE!!!

Im sure if we had pulled a major route for the airport, not one but two routes then they would be saying the same thing! EDI and GLA have always been important routes for the traveller, from the old BM to GO, but obviously u2 wernt making any money so theyve let them go - with pax preferring us to them i can truely understand why they made this decision.

remember that next time you need to go to scotland from ema and want a low cost flight - who you goin to choose??? and before you say eastern are far from low cost to abz

[LGS6753]

Surely the Midlands' largest loco is Thomsonfly, with their operations at DSA and COV? To say nothing of the BY operations.

BHX and EMA aren't the only airports in the Midlands........

[pwalhx]

I guess this will now start a heated debate over whether Doncaster is in the Midlands or the North!

[Navy_Adversary]

Calling DSA Robin Hood doesn't help the debate either:8

[Fried_Chicken]

Surely the Midlands' largest loco is Thomsonfly, with their operations at DSA and COV? To say nothing of the BY operations.

BHX and EMA aren't the only airports in the Midlands........


...and neither is Covilha which is in Portugal (which has the IATA code of COV)

FC

[737James]

Easyboy any more news when the last A319 is due to arrive at Ema ? I was in this morning but could only see two on the ramp unless the 3rd was hidden away somewhere.

[egnxema]

bmibabyfc,

Morning mate. LOL. No, I don't particularly have strong feelings for or against WW EZY FR or BD. I frequently use both and can see different strengths, and weakness, each each ones product. At the end of the day one 737/a319 is pretty much the same as another, the thing that makes the difference is attitude, culture, and outlook of each airline.

One thing that has bugged a bit with WW is their continual chop and change of routes. I understand that economics rule in the end,but I find it interesting that FR are able to grow routes such as SNN and launch routes in the depths of France, but looking at WW history at EMA they have dropped routes like NCE, CDG, BCN, MUC, BGY.

Actually - it is just amusing to read the PR hype "were the biggest" "were committed to the midlands" etc etc. Most airline press releases are hyperbolic mush and statistical wizardry.

:ok:

[Maddog Red]

With Flybe becoming the regional specialists, well it does seem that way, do we think we will see them operate any routes out of Nottingham EMA in the future. I know it’s close to there BHX base but when you have hold of a growing market its good to make the most of it and cover all angles.

[easyboy]

737James

I can confirm that the 3rd and final airbus will arrive into EMA at some point this evening - and this was confirmed by a very reliable source.

easyBoy

[bmibabyfc]

egnxema,

alright matey, ref the NCE, CDG, BCN, MUC, BGY routes....

nce - had to be cut due to the opening of the bhx base, and not enough a/c at ema

cdg - same as above, both these routes though operated by bmi regional, only to keep them warm for us, they will be back next summer

bcn - same reason as u2 for pulling off, bad slots into bcn meant only night time and believe me it was a nightmare if working if delay! - you can imagine the crewing problems caused!

muc - was a shame, i liked it, but unfortunately i think lufthansa had something to say about that

bgy/psa/szg - baby wanted to concentrate and build up its close network rather than only fly to a certain destination from one base - so i guess thats why these got the chop!

Going on above, what everyone has to remember is that we are only 3 years old, ryanair and easyjet are much older. Mistakes have been i know, but before new routes are made we need to establish ourselves in certain countries i.e spain,scotland,5 uk bases,czech rep etc, which we have now! We won the no-frills award again for the 3rd time - voted for by pax!

baby is growing all the time and from when we first started with 7 a/c based at ema i am very proud on what we have achieved!

sorry to go on egnxema........

[Fried_Chicken]

The Third A319 for Easyjet should be on approach into EMA around now with the last B733 due to position down to Luton

The end of an era (B733) & the start of a new chapter (all A319 base) for Easyjet

FC

[Mike16]

Hi

Congratulations to EMA for becoming an Airbus base !
I worked for Easyjet and on the old Boeing 737-300 and sometimes very rarely on the 700 but this was out of LPL when we got sent there last year.
I have been a pax on the new Airbus and must say it is brill, so much more bigger and cleaner ! this really does put Bmi baby a bit behind now, i still have a lot of friends at EZY and they all say the Airbus is lovely and so much nicer to work on ( Crew Friendly ) and so far the pax love it !
Well keep up the good work i am of to Faro at the end of Nov and how nice it will be to fly from EMA in style.
Keep up the good work EZY

Mike

[Maddog Red]

It does seem to an outsider that Nottingham EMA mangement and the East Midlands Development Agency are focused on based airlines only and are not pushing to get other low cost airlines into Nottingham EMA, not as a base but as a destination, there are a lot of European Low Cost Airlines for example Sterling.dk, Germanwings, WizzAir etc etc that would be good possiblities for the airport and this would be good for the tourism of the region and the local economy and for people wanting to travel the other way.

[egnxema]

bmibabyfc,

All I can still hear is "blah, blah, blah, blah I'm a dirty tramp":rolleyes:

LOL - just teasing mate.........

:ok: :ok:

Thanks for the run down.

[Little Blue]

bmibabyfc....
I, too , would love to see the MUC route back on the programme, but I understand the reasons for not operating.
I believe that baby has found its niche with the current set of routes and the days of experimentation are behind them....you watch them announce a load of new routes, now I've just said that !
The 319 is a fine a/c and is a good acquisition for EASY at EMA, but, give me a creaking 15 year old 737-300, any day.
.
YOUUUUUUUUUUU RAMS !!

[Maddog Red]

YOUUUUUUUUUUU RAMS !!

BAAAAA llllllllll ooooooo kkkkkkk ssssss. hahahaha

Come on Mego work your magic, sorry had to be said, now all the sheep fans seem to be out of the wood work.

Forest till i die....

About time baby did announce some new routes and show they are in it for the long haul and not here today gone tomorrow and make a fast buck. As does seem to be with there route selections.

[bmibabyfc]

oh baby will be about for a very long time yet........ whether there will be new routes or not (would be nice though) baby are in it for the longhaul and unlike other carries ema is the babys home, like u2's in ltn or where ever it is!! you never leave your home!!!

unlike derby, nottingham need their name on an airport to attract people to their town!! ha! - only joking on that one before these posts start to double on that quote!

[Little Blue]

Out the woodwork? It's obvious that you don't know me, or bmibabyfc, for that matter.
Black and white running thru' the veins. F****t are where they belong.
And EMA is our home,,,always has been. Remember that bmi used to be called DERBY AIRWAYS.....Now, what would I give to be working for a company by that name, now?
Toodle pip. ;)

[Maddog Red]

Little Blue, dear sir I know you well, you just have not realised who I am, I will give you a little hint - Tomorrow is yours. You Reds.

[Little Blue]

Oh boy....How is the French food treating yr delicate stomach?

[Maddog Red]

The food is great little Blue, but have to be honest the scenery is better I am not on about the landscape either. Some very lovely ladies in this neck of the world. You should take a visit you would enjoy yourself, even with your dodgey stomach as well.

[phil_2405]

There was an article in the local paper yesterday saying bmibaby were definitely adding an additional based aircraft at NEMA for next summer and it would be used to launch several new routes. Will we definitely see the return of CDG and NCE to baby?

[bmibabyfc]

yes we are def getting another a/c for next summer, and i believe cdg will be coming back to us, not too sure about nce though!

Havnt heard about any new routes but you never know!!!

[easyboy]

Can anyone confirm if the easyJet Boeing 737-300 over near the hangers is G-IGOW?

We all know that bmibaby have bought this form us (bmibaby must be desperate for aircraft if they bought that) we just can't get close enough to see the aircraft reg.

thanks

easyBoy

[EastMids]

We all know that bmibaby have bought this form us

We do??? Baby is due to get G-IGOJ, G-IGOO (already painted, to be G-TOYF), G-IGOY

[easyboy]

well I have heard from a reliable source with in easyJet that bmibaby have bought G-IGOW

[Little Blue]

Been watching some old episodes of "Airline" on SKY Travel and the only Easy A/C they seem to show are always G-YA or G-YC...and seeing as some of these shows are from 1997 it makes you wonder just how many hours these beasts have clocked up before we picked em up.....oh well, at least they're not F100's anymore....
;)

[bmibaby.com]

Great news to hear that bmibaby will be expanding (even if it is with the so-called "Oscar W*nker" and other assorted easyJet cast-offs!), although I'm not aware whether the -300s are replacing -500s that are on the way out, or if this is a genuine expansion. Out of interest, do these "new" EZY planes have those little cassette players that play the safety demo in foreign languages? They look very handy!

A fifth aircraft will be coming back to the EMA base next summer, I believe around March time, although this will come at the expense of one of the Embraers which I've been told is going to Luton for a new LTNBRU service. No news of any other expansion or of any cast-off routes coming back, but I'm sure management will be keeping a close eye on the new Ryanair base.

[EastMids]

easyboy said: well I have heard from a reliable source with in easyJet that bmibaby have bought G-IGOW

Next three 733s for WW are:

G-TOYF (ex G-IGOO easyJet (ex G-SMDB BMI)) already painted at Southend
G-TOYG (ex G-IGOJ easyJet)
G-TOYH (ex G-IGOY easyJet)

[easyboy]

Perhaps somebody could tell us which easyJet 737 is over near the bmi hangers then

[egnxema]

Allegedly due to "record" bookings on the new EMA routes, FR have brought fwd by 1 month the launch of 4 of its 10 new routes from Nottingham East Midlands. The routes from EMA to Limoges and Bergerac (France) and Wroclaw and Lodz (Poland) will now start from the 8th and 9th of February rather than the 14th and 15th of March as originally announced.

[almost professional]

better get the concrete laid then!

[egnxema]

almost Prof - our man with the view!

Are they going to fill in the bit between the current central apron and the hangars? Gives you the extra room plus entry/exit point.

[EastMids]

Perhaps somebody could tell us which easyJet 737 is over near the bmi hangers then

EZYI for repaint for SkyEurope - another AirLivery job

[almost professional]

That is rumoured to be the plan-with a new entrance onto the alpha taxyway

[Fried_Chicken]

Various rumours around about Germanwings moving in from down the M42

FC

[nema/robin hood]

If that is the case then lets hope Germanwings offer an alternate route to NEMA other than Cologne. EZY already offer that, but I suppose a AM flight to CGN with 4U plus the PM flight with EZY could work - Day return's possible for the businessman!
Maybe a AM SXF would work also so the PM return could be with FR ?
Hamburg & Stuttgart would be a nice bonus !

[Maddog Red]

Hamburg would be a good buisness link, espically the Airbus, Rolls Royce link. With lots of members of staff travelling to Hamburg from the Rolls factory

[phil_2405]

I hope it happens but I cant see the benefit of Germanwings moving from BHX esp if they move the CGN, as it would have direct competition from easyJet. If they were planning to launch more Midlands - Germany services though then it would make sense to have all services into one airport, not split across BHX and EMA I guess.

[egnxema]

This germanwings rumour seems to be one to watch.

Fried_Chicken - can you inform us anymore who said what when etc?

[SexyladyEZY]

Hello everyone.


Well i do hope everyone is ok, i feel i must let you know what is happening at our base at NEMA.
Yesterday whilst i was on my stand-by, i was asked by my line manager,if i would take unpaid leave from end of Dec till the end of March as we are well over crewed and flights are not that full.
Some flights that appear on our rota's will have a new sign of zzz which in a nutshell means ,that the flight will appear on our monthly rotas as normal, but approx 2 weeks before they will decide if it is not that full, it will be cancelled and we get put on to a standby instead !!!! :ugh:

Basically they are asking all the crew who are based at NEMA if they will take upnpaid leave, there are some very angry crew out there especially SCCM's like my self.

I also read last week in a local paper that Ryanair are going to start some of there new flights earlier thatn expected as of the over whelming success they have had, i think EZY crew will have a mass exodus of crew going to Ryanair.

I personally think EZY will pull out of NEMA in April or late summer of 2006 to go to Doncaster, if i hear anymore i will let you know. Take care and be good !

Maria

[Mike16]

Hi


Very shocked to hear that EZY may be pulling out of EMA, i hope not some good crew there, but with FR coming i sm not suprised at all, they have some interesting routes coming and look like they have sold very well.
You will have to keep us informed sexygirl..


Take care

[bmibaby.com]

I have very mixed feelings over the rumours which have been floating around at the moment that easyJet will be pulling out of EMA over the next year and move their operations to DSA. Firstly on the one hand, these rumours have been around for quite some time, and as a result could possibly need to be taken with a pinch of salt. But on the other hand, easyJet already has dealings with the Peel Group (LPL) with very limited working relationships with the Manchester Airport Group. It will be interesting to see the outcome of it all, but in the meantime it has been very sad to see the stagnation of easyJet services from EMA, as the airline came in in 2002 with all guns a'blazin'!

The new Ryanair base is certainly going to be big for the airport, and believe it will require the two other low-cost airlines to get themselves into shape. Ryanair is competing in new markets for the Midlands (rural France & Poland) but I can imagine it's just the tip of the iceberg before they consider opening up Med routes which would really eat into the bmibaby market. Look what's happened on the EMAMJV service since Ryanair launched flights on the route! I believe gates 2 & 6 are being specially painted up in Ryanair colours, as these are the smaller gates in the departure lounge where one long queue can be formed for boarding.

As with the easyJet rumours, the germanwings ones have been floating around for a long time. 4U does have dealings with the Manchester Airport Group, and is now a successful force in the German low-cost arena with their bases at; STR, CGN, SXF & HAM. It will be interesting to see if 4U does decide to keep their ops at BHX where they have a good working relationship with the airport authority, or whether they will move into the home of "partner" airline bmibaby.

With bmibaby no news of any new routes so far. Definately CDG back to baby, and think NCE will be relaunched as well. Possibly leaving room for one more rotation depending on frequency of CDG?

[easyboy]

What SexyladyEZY has said is not 100% correct, its only SCCM's that are being asked to take unpaid leave between January and March, for 2 weeks at a time.

And I doubt there will be a mass exodus to Ryanair, as most people I speak to can't stand them and having to pay for your own training takes the biscuit in my opinion.

bmibaby.com I have to agree completley with your comments, lets hope that EZY and bmibaby don't let Ryanair take over at EMA - but with them having many more routes thatn EZY and more or less the same number of routes that bmibaby have any possibility of MED expansion would put a dent in both out airlines.

easyBoy

[bmibaby.com]

Well it's not like bmibaby haven't had the chance to build up Nottingham East Midlands into a bigger base, but at the current size it is still successful, so should we be looking at quality over quantity? I have been stunned to see baby miss out on some huge opportunities (Spain & Italy) because they've stuck to traditional routes, and as a result other low-cost airlines either at EMA or up the road at BHX/CVT have got a toe-hold into alternative markets which could have been a big success, such as Valencia, Madrid or Rome. Routes like Bergamo & Pisa were hugely popular (BGY admittedly had weather issues in the winter) but due to "streamlining" the routes went rather than sticking them out.

Over the next six weeks we'll see the full rolling out of the summer 2006 schedules for the low-cost airlines, whether the three low-cost airlines at EMA will be launching any new services, relaunching old ones, or (and hopefully not) scaling back their services inline with a lot of rumours that have been floating about.

[bmibabyfc]

hmmm.......... we could be seeing a new route for the baby from what i gather!

wait and see.......... and all will be revealed (i hope!!)

[karnak]

interesting sale says CDG new route - don't think so!!!!!!!

[Maddog Red]

Paris CDG is the new route; god the excitement is killing me. While other airlines stick their necks out and offer customers new choice and new countries to visit, bmibaby just takes a bmi route back.

[bmibabyfc]

i wasnt thinking about cdg......... just because the summer flights have been announced dont think that could be it!!

i may be wrong,but only time will tell!!

[karnak]

the suspense is TOOOOOOOOOO much will NMEA be able to cope!

[bmibabyfc]

no it perhaps wont karnak!

[bmibabyfc]

well there you go, the new route i was talking about has gone to MAN, not EMA! - no surprise there!!

it was Perpignan i was talking about karnak,just wasnt sure whether it would be ema or bhx that it was going from, didnt expect man!! there also doing nqy as well next summer from there!

[Fried_Chicken]

it was Perpignan i was talking about karnak,just wasnt sure whether it would be ema or bhx that it was going from, didnt expect man!!

FlyBE already serve Perpignan from Brum, doubt there would have been enough Pax for two airlines on the route

Fried Chicken

[karnak]

Oh well bmibabtfc same old story EMA looses out again management need to think more creatively about EMA we are loosing out on a lot of pax by now trying non traditional routes!

[egnxema]

SO with CDG switching back to WW and NCE not showing in the schedules, does that mean that bmiRegional will not operate at EMA from March 06?

[bmibaby.com]

bmi regional will still be basing an Embraer ERJ-145 at NEMA to operate the EMABRU service, as this will not be transferred over to bmibaby. bmi regional has always performed strongly on the Brussels service because of the high level of business & high-yield pax on the route, as opposed to CDG which has a much greater mix of business & leisure pax - and with low-cost competition in the Midlands, people who simply aren't prepared to pay BD prices.

baby has only to my knowledge released a twice-daily EMACDG frequency, therefore does it now allow if there is an extra based 737 for at least one or two extra flights? Perhaps this will allow for one or two more routes, or will there be additional CDG frequenices.

I think any major LCC expansion at EMA for 2006 will certainly not be in the hands of the baby management! :{

[egnxema]

Well, for those of us that feel things are a little quieter in the Terminal this summer, the stats seem to back it up.

For the 12months ending August 2005 the total pax figs are 4,261,000

For thw 12months ending August 2004 the total pax figs were
4,283,000

minus 22,000 pax (or 30 departing pax per day)

I am smiling to myself now - I realise that nobody would notice a reduction of 30 pax per day.

But what is slightly alarming is that:-

NCL, BRS and BFS all increased their pax by 1/2 million, and LPL increased by just short of 3/4 million!

FR shoudl make a difference this winter, but it is a shame to see EMA is not holdingn its own when compared with its immediate contemporaries.

[dwlpl]

Liverpool is on course to increase pax throughput this year by around 30% on last years total, if this is met there will be approx 1million extra pax year-on-year.

[Mr Angry from Purley]

See TOMFly into EMA big time tonight, is this Wx related or is COV work in progress :\

[bmibaby.com]

* I completely agree that EMA does need to do more to increase passenger numbers in the same way that has been evident at other regional airports in the UK, however the new Ryanair base opening up in February should help to acheive that goal. I believe the dip in passenger numbers has simply been caused due to the lack of enthusiasm from the two existing based LCCs who really need to pull their finger out to remain competitive this coming summer.

* Thomsonfly are operating Coventry-based aircraft from EMA throughout November at the beginning of the week, whilst work is undertaken at Coventry Airport.

[phil_2405]

easyJet have just released Summer 2006 seats from NEMA:

Routes now available for summer 2006...

* Alicante
* Cologne-Bonn
* Faro
* Geneva
* Malaga
* Prague
* Rome (Ciampino)
* Venice

No expansion but at least they aren't pulling out!

[Mike16]

Hi


Great news about Easyjet not pulling out, but can someone help me here?

I went on the airports website and there is a flight departing tonight i think it was 23.55hrs to /newYork !!!!!!!!!!!

Is this a one off ? or a regular ?

Can someone help

Mike

[phil_2405]

Mike16, I read somewhere it was a special flight for WWE.

The timings of NEMA easyJet flights next summer don't seem to have changed so no indication of expansion to come. Some of the flights are quite pricey as well, they seem to have put their base prices up?

[Mike16]

Hi

Hi phil how are you ?

Well you are quick aren't you, it says AC7027 dept at 23.59 hrs.
What is wwe flight ?

Easyjet is getting very expensive indeed, just priced up for june for 2 adults return to Faro,well over £300.00, looked on coop travel website i can have a chartered holiday for that price with bed and breakfast accom included !

mike

[phil_2405]

WWE - special flight for Wrestlers. Don't quote me though - not 100% sure.

[GrahamK]

WWE = World Wrestling Entertainment

[almost professional]

We were told it was WWE-apron looked good last night-before the fog rolled in!
well done to the servisair tug driver for his patience when trying to get surplus Easy B737's from the central apron to any part of the airfield with a gap!
must have been a nightmare this morning though, bet there where some non standard pushbacks/starts

[egnxema]

almost prof - you take many diverts due to fog yesterday?

[almost professional]

onto the second page of the tower log book!
did'nt count them but was the best day for a long time, just about everything too-including Dragonair B747-luckily it was a monday night and there were a few spare stands on the cargo aprons

[Maddog Red]

With Skyeurope announcing a new BHX-KRK route, have Ryanair missed a trick and a very popular up and coming route or will they fight back now and announce an EMA-KRK.

[egnxema]

What do we think the odds are that FR will announce basing additional aircraft at EMA before the start date in Feb?

Just going on them bringing fwd the start date already, plus FR's desire to see off small-fry competition.

Any guesses?

[almost professional]

if the sales are as good as they say then lets hope so-need to get cracking with the apron extension, diggers should be on site this week-so long to the compass base!

[Maddog Red]

Or should NEMA Management be wooing some one like Wizzair or even Centralwings, one thing the region needs is traffic coming this way as well.

[egnxema]

Can we have a quick "Fun Friday" count up of how many aircraft will be based at EMA next summer? ;)

I get:-

bmibaby 5 737
easyJet 3 A319
Ryanair 2 738
bmiRegional 1 Jungle Jet
Thomsonfly 1 763 & 1 752
MyTravel 2 A320
First Choice 1 A321
Thomas Cook 1 A320
Excel Airways 1 738

18....... anyone add/take away from that?


:ok:

[Banzai Eagle]

egnxema
RYR? more than 2 738's with the recent new routes but not sure how many more

[phil_2405]

What new routes? The 10 announced in Sept will be operated using the 2 based aircraft. Existing routes operated with aircraft from other bases.

[paul atkins]

JUST 1 MYTRAVEL A320 + 1 ASTRAEUS B737 NEXT SUMMER

[737James]

Anybody know who is operating some flights for Airtours from Ema next year as year before last it was Skyservice and this year Air Scandic/ various airlines.

[paul atkins]

ASTRAEUS + EXCEL ARE OPERATING CERTAIN FLIGHTS FOR AIRTOURS

[bmibaby.com]

I was under the impression that EMA had nearly forty diverts the other day, mostly coming from BHX, BLK & LPL. Kudos to everyone from Servisair-GlobeGround and the Pax Services staff on the info desk for keeping everything running as smoothly as possible in these circumstances, having witnessed the scenes of confusion & anger (some people I heard were waiting for coaches for up to six hours!)

bmibaby will indeed be basing five Boeing 737 aircraft at EMA next summer (not sure the mixture of -300s & -500s) and bmi regional will be basing one ERJ-145. Destinations for baby; GLA/EDI/BFS/AMS/CDG/ALC/PMI/AGP/PRG/JER, and regional will be doing BRU. Sadly no return of Irish flights, or by the look of it NCE.

[nema/robin hood]

FR are strongly rumoured to be basing another B738 at Cork to operate LGW flights as well as an additional UK airport.

Maybe that UK airport will be NEMA. Would make sense to link the two bases.

If that happens then I can't see WW flying this route for much longer.

[bmibaby.com]

nema/robin hood; I had too heard that Ryanair might link Cork with Nottingham East Midlands Airport following the success of their Dublin & Shannon flights, but I don't think anything has been confirmed. Cork & Knock have already been dropped from bmibaby's route network from EMA, having been transferred over to BHX.

[paul atkins]

NEW FLIGHTS NEXT YEAR PULA (SUMMER 2006) & AGADAIR TWICE A WEEK NEXT WINTER. NEW SCHEDULED FLIGHTS NEXT SUMMER BEING INTRODUCED BY EXCEL AIRWAYS TO LARNACA(SUNDAYS) DALAMAN(MONDAYS) & PALMA(SATURDAYS)

[paul atkins]

JUST BOOKED A FLIGHT IN MARCH(22ND) TO MURCIA FLIGHT TIMES HAVE NOW ALTERED LOOKING LIKE A THIRD PLANE BASED WITH NOW NO CONNECTION WITH THE DUBLIN SERVICE AS WELL AT THE SAME TIME PLANES DEPARTING TO DERRY & BERLIN

[egnxema]

Dear Paul,

While I can see that the MJV flights no longer link in with the DUB flights, did you notice this:-

FR1676 LDY EMA 1725 1825
FR1638 EMA SXF 1850 2145


The LDY and SXF flights do not conflict, infact they fit together with standard 25 min Ryanair glue.

:ok:

[madbadrob]

BMIBaby Nema and Robin Hood are two different airports. NEMA is in Nottingham as you well know and Robin Hood is at Doncaster. Yes ok we don't want it called Robin Hood neither which is why we affectionately name it DSA.

With regards to Nema and planes based there a local press release two weeks ago claimed that 600 jobs were to be lost when BMIBaby take their Airbus ( I think dont have paper anymore) maintenance operation to LHR however there will be maintenance of other stock split between there and Aberdeen.

As for FR there are a number of rumours circulating that they are to commence flights from HUY (Humberside) which will have a knock on effect for both DSA and NEMA

Rob

[bmibaby.com]

madbadrob, don't worry I do know the difference between EMA & DSA, my comment was actually aimed at the user on the board called nema/robin hood - I haven't gone mad or making up names for the place I've worked for the last five years! ;)

Following on from my post, I don't believe Ryanair adding maybe a Dublin service from Humberside would have a significant effect on the Nottingham East Midlands service. Ryanair are creating a base at EMA, so I'm sure that the airline has plans for a long future here, although I've no idea how many based aircraft or routes that will entail!

bmi Airbus maintenance will now be handled at LHR, bmi regional maintenance will continue to be handled at ABZ, whilst the maintenance for bmibaby's 16 Boeings will be from EMA. Whilst it is no consolation to the 185 people who are being made reduntant, it simply is more cost effective to do all Airbus maintenance at LHR where bmi operates an all Airbus fleet. I believe that some workers have been forced to take reduancy, whilst one or two others are planning to relocate.

[airhumberside]

Any HUY-DUB route would have a minimal effect on NEMA-DUB.

[Fried_Chicken]

Is bmi also ceasing all 3rd party maintenance work at EMA? Don't think they do too much these days but the GB Airbus fleet have recently been passing through

Will bmi cease to use the large hangar & concentrate all work in the smaller hangar (H35?). If this is the case, Maybe somebody could persuade fellow Star Alliance member Lufthansa to move it's engineering/maintenance company (Lufthansa Technik?) into the large hangar resulting in fewer or no redunancies

Fried Chicken

[Sausagehead]

All heavy maintenace at EMA to be stopped including bmi & bmibaby aircraft.

Shame, also compounded that it is the Engineers who are bearing the brunt. Funny how no Senior Management will be laid off.

[phil_2405]

Do the Ryanair flight times indicate a 3rd based aircraft then? (as early as next March :eek: )

[madbadrob]

My worries over the flights possibly to be launched from HUY is more to do with the passengers than anything. At the minute those who live in Humberside Yorkshire and Nottinghamshire who want a FR flight local to home only have DSA and NEMA to fly from. By adding HUY the passengers will have a third which whilst great from a choice perspective will in my opinion cut Pax numbers from both DSA and Nema. Ok if flights are to be cut it will be DSA rather than Nema but I along with a number of others were hoping to get more especially since Thompson cut their DSA/Dublin run

With regards the Nottingham/RobinHood post I offer my apologies. Being new to this forum I was unaware of a user name of that title and made an assumption.

Rob

[egnxema]

madbadrob

Welcome on board mate.

You will soon pick up the ropes I'm sure. One thing you will soon notice is that a large number of folks that post on here are professional airline/travel industry guys/girls. You will be able to pick up a lot of info.

One tip: When joining a thread it is a good idea to read backa few pages to get an bit of background about where the topic is heading and who has said what.

:ok:

[madbadrob]

Thanks for the welcome and the advice. I did read the whole of this thread but right after a night shift and when extremely tired :)

As for the Pro's being on board that was my main reason for joining. It is nice to get the real story rather than rumour after rumour you find on the other forums

Rob

[bmibaby.com]

madbadrob welcome to PPRUNE, and thank you for contributing so far to the topic, I hope you get to learn a lot about the industry!

It has been extremely regrettable to see bmi engineering scale down at EMA after a long & successful history. I'm not aware of the full ins & outs of maintenance, but have been told that the bmibaby Boeings (19/20 by next March) will be maintained at Nottingham East Midlands. It is certainly extremely sad to see the 185 professionals leaving us, I believe as many as possible have been offered alternative placements at other bmi engineering locations, I had heard that the addition of the fifth aircraft is creating around 60 new jobs for pilots, cabin-crew & front-of-house staff. With the fifth aircraft as far as I see it, it is only operating the two CDG flights, so whether we might see an extra city or two launched, I'm not sure, maybe NCE & BCN? bmibaby is more suited to CDG as there is no no-frills competition in the Midlands (CVTORY by Thomsonfly with one daily flight isnt competitive for independent business travellers or day trippers but more aimed at leisure pax) and there is a much greater number of independent business & leisure passengers who require lower fares than the corporate subsidised trips often made into BRU.

The germanwings rumour continues to float around, but personally I think it's a dead duck as I've heard it since late 2003. germanwings has established themselves at BHX, and whilst it might make sense to take a foothold in a less congested & partner airline hub airport, I don't see them doing that. EasyJet has wrapped up CGN, Ryanair are beginning SXF in March, and I'm simply not sure there is market for two airlines on these routes as well as services to HAM & STR - their other bases. It would be nice to see Lufthansa take over the old regional route to FRA, but again, it's pie in the sky!

[madbadrob]

What a great post. Please forgive me though when I ask what Airports the following are NCE BCN CVTORY CGN SXF HAM & STR

Whilst not new to aircraft spotting my experience as been with the RAF aircraft which I love and have only in the last 8 months moved over to civillian airports and aircraft

Rob

[egnxema]

Rob,

These are the 3 letter codes assigned by IATA. If you type a search in Google for IATA Codes there are loads of website that list every code in the world. You will soon learn the UK ones, and many others. After years in the industry I am actually embarrassed at how many 3 letter codes I have whizzing round my head - shame there are not more IATA questions in the local pub quiz!!:O

NCE Nice
BCN Barcelona
CVT Coventry
ORY Paris Orly
CGN Cologne/Bonn
SXF Berlin Shonefeld
HAM Hamburg
STR Stuttgart

:ok:

[bmibaby.com]

Sorry madbadrob if I confused you with the airport codes, but it's simply a lot faster than writing out all of their names, and thank you to egnxema for having the patience to write them all out. On second thought I've thought HAM might be a popular route from EMA thanks to the Airbus connection, between Hamburg & Derby.


Nottingham East Midlands - Nice cancelled during winter schedule

bmi Nottingham East Midlands to Nice service (BD289, BD290) will not operate during their winter schedule, 30 October - 25 March 06.



Just come across this original press release from bmi in September when trawling through the pages of this topic, regarding the Nice service being dropped for the winter season until the 25th March, might this suggest that with the fifth B737 that the additional route alongside CDG will indeed be NCE? I remember it always being a fairly popular route (alongisde TLS & BOD but I believe these are now firmly routed at BHX) so I'd say it would have a strong future. Operationally BCN was a problem I believe due to slot restrictions, but it's a shame because the route was tremendously popular and GRO is not a realistic alternative.

[madbadrob]

Thanks for the clarification of the three letter codes. Kne wthey were online but couldn't find them not knowing their correct title. Have now downloaded the list :)

As for having them whizzing around in your haed don't worry. I work for Royal Mail and have post codes flying through my head. Now if only they would let me drive a wagon to NEMA :)

Rob

[airhumberside]

Croatia Airlines will launch a weekly scheduled flight to Split next April (Source - CH Aviation)

[Mike16]

Hi


This is great news, any more new routes or aircraft coming ?
I also flew last week from EMA to FAO and must admit the airport is really nice now once you pass customs, the layout is brill, keep up the good work, but i do have one moan, the staff in the restaurant are very rude, well hardly there to be honest, and the prices, a bacon buttie £5.49 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well that is my moan over, have a good day all

Mike

[EastMids]

I'm not aware of the full ins & outs of maintenance, but have been told that the bmibaby Boeings (19/20 by next March) will be maintained at Nottingham East Midlands.

Nope, only overnight/light checks on the 737s at EMA. 737 heavy maintenance is going to Eastern Europe, heavy A320-family checks to Lufthansa, and A330s are going to the Philippines for their heavy checks. On a more positive note, I'm told DHL have expressed an interest in taking on the big hangar - to use it for container storage! :(

[Wiggly Bob]

Afternoon Everyone,

Having been a long time "stalker" thought I'd register and start contributing to what are sometimes quite heated debates!

My first question is this: could anyone tell me what the "Volga Denepr" aircraft was that was at the DHL terminal on Weds or Thurs this week? I was driving past and saw the cockpit in the up position. I assume it was an Antonov or something similar. I am not very au fait with aircraft, too be honest I know very little about them, I just find them fascinating.

Rob

[Banzai Eagle]

Antonov 124, fairly regular at EMA, probably bringing in Xmas goods around this time of year.

[paul atkins]

hey all on the screens at work today BMI are to base a aircraft next summer operating charter flights all week and it looks like ASTRAEUS aircraft has now been withdrawn cheers paul

[madbadrob]

Eastmids said On a more positive note, I'm told DHL have expressed an interest in taking on the big hangar - to use it for container storage

Funnily enough I have heard the same rumour but from a completely different source. Here is one for you though Royal Mail in their 5 year plan seem to have NEMA earmarked for an increase in workload :)

Rob

[UPS@EMA]

Here is one for you though Royal Mail in their 5 year plan seem to have NEMA earmarked for an increase in workload

They are building a new hub on beverley road, with direct access to the UPS Ramp.

Any more news on new routes???

Regards

Stu

[phil_2405]

I thought Ryanair said all Summer 06 flights would be available by yesterday yet the website is only showing 1 daily flight to Dublin? :confused:

[Powerjet1]

Now by the 23 Dec.

[faultygoods]

hey
more on Nema and the bmi hangar 29
at the end of november the airport authority was going to annouce its 5 year plan for develepment of the airport but when bmi announced the redundances it chaged its mind. why? well i'll tell you. they had a plan to build a new terminal after the bmi lease ran out on h29 in 2009 as that is where the new terminal is to be. now their plan has been brought forward to 2007. before that h29 the wooden huts and smaller hangars, T2 etc., will be demolished. That whole maintenance area, will in a couple of years will be unrecogniseable. Some of the work has already started.
you know its true. :D

[phil_2405]

Sorry faultygoods but the new terminal is not going to be where you say and its not been brought forward to 2007.

Also the airport is due to publish its masterplan for the next 30 years, not just the next 5.

[faultygoods]

hi phil
i have inside info, i'll agree about your comments with regrds the long term plan. do you know that JCB are getting a new hangar for free, built by the airport and do you know where its going, i do.
he he :rolleyes:

[phil_2405]

Hi,

Yea I know JCB are getting a new hangar, thats been on the cards for ages it seems! but no I don't know where its going. I am talking about the new terminal though and its not going where you said for sure.

[faultygoods]

Whats wrong with you, dont you like a girl knowing more than you? the JCB hangar is going to the west of DHL.
For the rest we'll see;)

[phil_2405]

Faultygoods:

I didn't even know you were a girl so I think that comment is irrelevant! If you think you know where new terminal is going then fair play to you but I am 100% sure where its going (unless they change their mind - very unlikely) so we'll leave it at that.

Merry Christmas:p

[faultygoods]

Merry Christmas Phil
;)

[almost professional]

New JCB hangar was to go west of DHL-this is presently on hold-more to do with JCB than the airport, also it is a case of the airport providing the hangar and JCB leasing it, as they do the present building
terminal extension will for obvious reasons be close to existing buildings, the new stands being constructed on the western side of the main apron are no doubt a clue!
I do not expect the maintenance area to remain in its present form forever-but any plans for developement are much longer term

[Fried_Chicken]

I thought Ryanair said all Summer 06 flights would be available by yesterday yet the website is only showing 1 daily flight to Dublin?

Birmingham has also been reduced to once a day, Manchester down to two a day & various other reductions between the UK-Dublin by Ryanair (unless the FULL S06 schedule hasn't been released by Ryanair yet!)

FC

[MerchantVenturer]

See Powerjet1's post above @ 1142 this morning.

[ShyTorque]

"New JCB hangar was to go west of DHL-this is presently on hold-more to do with JCB than the airport, also it is a case of the airport providing the hangar and JCB leasing it, as they do the present building"

It's not strictly on hold as such, but some last-minute design decisions are still to be finalised. :8

[EastMids]

Rumour I have been passed is that Sir Anthony might have his eye on some shiny new metal that's built in Renton sooner rather than later! :ooh:

[paul atkins]

HEY ALL THOMSONS HAVE CONFIRMED A NEW WEEKLY FLIGHT STARTING NEXT WINTER TO HURGHADA IN EGYPT ALSO FIRST CHOICES FLORIDA RUN IN 2007 WILL START IN FEBRUARY CHEERS PAUL

[paul atkins]

HEY ALL FREEDOM FLIGHTS ARE TO OFFER THERE FIRST WINTER PROGRAME NEXT YEAR FLIGHTS TO TENERIFE X2 LAS PALMAS X1 LANZAROTE X2 FUERTEVENTURA X1 & SHARM EL SHEIKH X1 FLIGHTS AT THE MOMENT ARE TO BE OPERATED BY VIKING BUT MORE THEN LIKELY WILL CHANGE ALSO CANCUN WILL ALSO START IN FEBRUARY 2007 WITH FIRST CHOICE AS WELL AS SANFORD CHEERS PAUL

[bmibaby.com]

Viking weren't the most reliable of airlines when it came to punctuality when they were operating two MD80 aircraft for Air Scandic in S05, so it will be interesting to see how they operate for Freedom Flights, especially as I thought that company was somehow aligned with the XL Group. Does anybody have confirmed information as to the Excel/Astraeus S06 arrangement, as bmi will be basing an A320 aircraft next season to operate flights for XL which apparently is at the expense of another operator ... all to be revealed ...

Looking forward to seeing how S06 pans out particularly for the no-frills airlines at the airport, and whether we see any expansion or contraction of operations from baby or EZY.

[Lite]

It seems that the rumour mill for FR next summer is that FR are to continue serving their existing routes;

- DUB (to be reduced to 2x daily, as the 3rd rotation was to support the MJV service which is being transferred to an EMA based aircraft)
- SNN (to remain at daily, potential of ORK route now WW has decided that the EMAORK service will not be returning in S06.)
- MJV (from S06 operated daily with an EMA based aircraft)
- CIA/GRO (remaining daily with CIA/GRO based aircraft)

First locally based 738 arrives on the 7th February, with the next arriving a similar time in March. Hopefully these two based aircraft will be the start of FR's locally based expansion, and look forward to seeing plenty more routes! I find it interesting that the orange lot have not responded to this with any new routes or aircraft, although I've been told EZY are still recruiting for the EMA base, so whether that means another aircraft or just there are lots of people leaving, I don't know.

[gary4444]

RTE Business are reporting that the launch of the second based Ryanair aircraft at NEMA will be delayed from March 7 to April 5 due to late delivery of new aircraft.

http://www.rte.ie/business/2005/1220/ryanair.html

[egnxema]

Any idea which of the new routes this will affect?

[Banzai Eagle]

DUB-EMA seems now to be an -800 rather than a -200

[bmibaby.com]

Ryanair will be launching flights from NEMA to Limoges & Bergerac (France) and Wroclaw & Lodz (Poland) in February with the arrival of the first based aircraft. I also think that it's with the arrival of this one that the Murcia flight is being transferred over to a locally based 738. All 732s apparently gone by the end of the month, so indeed the existing DUB route which is operated by the 732s will be transferred to the 738 if it hasn't already happened. All other new routes were expected to be launched in March with the arrival of the second aircraft, so presumably these are the destinations which will be affected.

[egnxema]

As has been mentioned earlier TOM have announced some new destinations from EMA:-

Hurgadad from November 06 for the winter.
TFN weekly from NOV 06.
SSH will operate x2 weekly this winter, then x1 weekly in the summer, then again x2 weekly for winter 06/07.

[phil_2405]

Full Ryanair DUB timetable is now loaded up...remains at 3 daily weekdays I believe.

[egnxema]

Reported that the airport are approaching a number of Indian airlines about flights from EMA to the subcontinent.

Air India also rumoured to have been invited to look round etc.

[Lite]

Scheduled expansion of any sort at EMA would be good news for the airport, and longhaul would certainly be a bonus. We have a real lack of any hub-and-spoke airline at EMA as well as a trans-Atlantic link. I hope that these are both gaps in the market that could be filled in 2006!

I'd be surprised if Air India launches flights to EMA, as the airline appears to be doing just fine with frequent weekly (but not daily) services through BHX. Whoever it is though, it would be excellent news for the airport, and with the large Asian population in the East Midlands, as well as India's continuous growth as both a leisure & business country, it would be a very popular route.

[future_pilot17]

Reported that the airport are approaching a number of Indian airlines about flights from EMA to the subcontinent.

Air India also rumoured to have been invited to look round etc.

Reported where? or is it just hear'say? It's nice to give sources with such posts instead of just posting. :*

I would be very surpirsed to see Air India start up at EMA, AI already serve BHX 3x weekly with the B777 and this is 'due' to be increasing to 6x weekly from March.

Jet Airways had filed slots to start this month and you could see the flights on the BHX Arrival/Depature boards, as far as I know they are waiting approval from the Indian goverment to launch flights.

Anyone correct me if I'm wrong

[egnxema]

future pilot 17

Sorry my friend - should have included the reference - but to make up for it, here is the article in full......

(Leicester Mercury Via Thomson Dialog NewsEdge)It is a long haul to India for the thousands of Leicestershire people who head there each year - but that could soon change.

Nottingham East Midlands Airport (Nema) is in talks with potential airlines in a bid to offer a regular service to the country.

The airport believes such a flight would prove hugely successful because of the huge Asian population of Leicestershire and surrounding counties.

The move has been welcomed by commuters, who say they are fed up with having to travel to London for regular flights to India.

Penny Coates , managing director of Nema, said: "Our customers in Leicester tell us destinations in the Indian subcontinent would be their priority for the development of our long-haul services.

"We are investigating opportunities with our airline partners over the next few months.

"We are also preparing to visit the appropriate Indian-based airlines with a view to promoting Nema as a potential gateway for new services.

"However, to be successful, any development with flights to the Indian subcontinent must have the support of the civic and business communities." Kishor Tailor, chief executive of Leicester Shire Economic Partnership, has already spoken to Air India about the advantages of teaming up with Nema.



He said: "I am surprised this has not happened already and it is a great avenue for us if we can get this opened. More and more people are going to India and this would make sense.

"We are hearing from people that they don't want to be travelling to London every time they want to go to India.

"I spoke to a representative of Air India and he said he was keen to hear more about it.

"We have invited him here as he wanted to look at the catchment area and what we can provide.

"My long-term vision is that we could have a daily flight out of India from the airport." Travel agent Ishwer Patel, owner of Avion Travels, in Catherine Street, Leicester, said: "There is definitely a good market for it and we book hundreds of people to flights to India every year.

"We constantly have inquiries from people about whether there is a service from East Midlands Airport." Kiran Mistry, 33, from Loughborough, who travels regularly to India, said: "It is something I have been pushing for a long time.

"It makes sense to have a regular flight from here.

Preety Gill, from North Evington, who also visits the country, said: "I think it's a good move for everyone, including passengers and businesses.

"It will attract people from Leicester, Derby and Nottingham."

[future_pilot17]

egnxema

Ahhh thank you very much egnxema:ok: , didn't mean to come off like a pratt:}

Seems interesting though, as I said I would be surprised to see them start but Hey, loads of wierd stuff happens in this world.

Did't Flyjet attempt Amritsar flights from EMA and they didn't go off with a bang did they and were pulled?

Correct me if this is wrong......

[Regular Cappuccino]

Did't Flyjet attempt Amritsar flights from EMA and they didn't go off with a bang did they and were pulled?

Correct me if this is wrong......

As I recall, the loads were good, and the route so popular that there was an intention to expand it, but at the time, they decided that the terminal had insufficient capacity for the extra pax, and moved the operation to Brum instead (bigger terminal but shorter runway).
Since then the terminal at NEMA has been extended, so maybe they'll come back?:D

[Momentary Lapse]

Hi everyone

I'm booked on the FR EMA/LIG in March. My first flight from EMA and my first on FR (or any LoCo for that matter).

Any advice on flying:

a) from NEMA :)
b) with FR? :ugh:

Is NEMA better or worse since it became part of MAN's empire? :yuk:

Thanks

[Little Blue]

EMA......Airside, a darn sight better than is has been at anytime in the last 20 years....Plenty of space to spread out in the lounge and a good range of shops/bars/cafes...
Landside, pretty crap. Make sure you give yrself loads of time to get thru security..wot a bottleneck.
As for Ryanair.....no better or worse than Easy/baby etc....
Good luck

[Momentary Lapse]

Thanks.....

[phil_2405]

Any new developments in the pipeline for NEMA?

[Jonty]

TCX are looking to put a B757, instead of the A320.

[Mike16]

Hi guy's

Well how are we all at EMA ? well just wanted to say, i was watching TV last night when i saw the new TV advert for EMA, saying how they serve 80 worldwide destinations, i must admit it is a very good advert, and i do take my hat of to EMA for this.

Have you seen this advert anyone ?

Also i have another question, i do have a friend who is interested being Cabin crew for Ryanair at EMA, she has been on there website and there is no info at all about careers at EMA ? so she emailed one of the training companys to get info and got a Email back saying they are not recruiting !!!!!

Seems strange this as the basse is due to open in the next couple of months, does anyone know anymore ?

Keep in contact guys.

Mike

[NCLRULES]

Maybe all positions have been taken?

[phil_2405]

well just wanted to say, i was watching TV last night when i saw the new TV advert for EMA, saying how they serve 80 worldwide destinations, i must admit it is a very good advert, and i do take my hat of to EMA for this.
Have you seen this advert anyone ?

Also i have another question, i do have a friend who is interested being Cabin crew for Ryanair at EMA, she has been on there website and there is no info at all about careers at EMA ?

Yea I saw the advert the other night, I thought it wasn't too bad...quite low budget but good to see them advertising on tv.

The first based Ryanair aircraft arrives in the next few weeks so I would have thought any initial recruiting would have been complete by now.

[Mike16]

Hi Guys

Well my friend enquired about these positions in October and has never heard anything from FR !! i also have old workmates at EZY and they were trying to find out about positions with FR as well, and they too have had the same luck, nothing !

So i dont know where they got there crew from, no adverts in the Derby or Nottingham papers, although they are advertising heavily in the Derby evening telegraph for there new routes.

Take care guys

Michael ;)

[Banzai Eagle]

Rumours beginning to come to light that NEMA will soon be entertaining Fed Ex because they will have to move out of STN due night flight restrictions, and NEMA is designated the Freight Airfield of the UK. Should please the NIMBY's!

[phil_2405]

What kind of ops do FedEx have out of STN? (and hence would possibly come to NEMA)

[mmeteesside]

The Fedex MD-11's from US > Europe and vice versa, and presumably the Air Contractors operation would also move over?

[airhumberside]

What about PIK. I think FedEx have operated their in the past

[Fried_Chicken]

Don't most of the FedEx MD11 arrivals arrive at STN in mid afternoon/early evening though before deaprting to Brussels/Paris etc.. (where they arrive at Night)

Fried Chicken

[UPSAirOps]

Heard about FedEx a little while ago that they'd be moving into Royal Mail's old shed, or ServisAir Cargo were moving there and FedEx would move into their place next to TNT. Not sure where the capacity on the Eastern Ramp would be for two MD-11s though...perhaps someone with more knowledge can enlighten me on the capacity there. As far as I'm aware it can take one MD-11 type a/c across three stands - 76A is it?

[Regular Cappuccino]

If as suggested, the Fedex traffic is daytime, then parking on the Eastern apron shouldn't be a problem. Night time would be a different matter however.:uhoh:

[phil_2405]

Anyone know when the first Ryanair based aircraft flight departs NEMA? Is it Monday?

[paul atkins]

hey all ryanairs first flight with based aircraft is next wednesday 8/1/06 to bergerac departing at 0650 cheers paul

[bmibabyfc]

hmm interesting......

shame that we decided to drop that route, wont miss the pax ive seen travel on that flight though....... but very good for a weekend away if off!!

dont think its a good money making route though thats why baby dropped it!

regards

babyfc

[paul atkins]

easyjet are to start flights to ibiza starting on saturday 15/7 until 9/9 flights are weekly times 1945 out 0135 return sunday cheers paul

[phil_2405]

easyjet are to start flights to ibiza starting on saturday 15/7 until 9/9 flights are weekly times 1945 out 0135 return sunday cheers paul
I had already posted this news and hence why bmibabyfc had replied but the post seems to have disappeared :confused: :confused:

[bmibaby.com]

I don't ever remember the EMAIBZ flights being hugely popular with passengers when baby used to do it, although for a quick weekend break or to go out & enjoy the nightlife, the flights in the late evening after flying had been done on the main routes were really well timed (I think for one season they actually left at about 2200 & returned about 0400.) There are bound to be a couple of people doing the DIY thing, but with only one flight a week, the whole flexible-stay thing that the bmibaby service had goes completely out of the window. Time will tell, and I suppose at least easy are launching a new city ... :hmm:

Wednesday is going to be a really exciting day for the airport with the first 738 of FR being based here, and no doubt there will be some pomp & fanfair to launch the new services, even if it is at some ungodly hour! As I continue to predict, this summer will be one of interest to see how easyJet & bmibaby react to the new Ryanair base, whether they maintain their ground, expand or fold. Whilst bmibaby will stay, their position over expanding (the airline has vowed not to re-transfer any French sun routes to EMA, operating them at a safe distance from BHX!) is still not known.

[Evileyes]

It's truly a shame to lose good information due to embedding an advert link in an otherwise excellent post.

PPRuNe has advertisers whose support enables the site to continue. They prefer not to have their competitors get free advertising.

A specific and ongoing example: discussing new routes is borderline advertising but PPRuNe currently allows it. Posting links that sell tickets on those routes WILL lead to editing at best or outright deletion. In extreme cases the entire thread will be deleted.

It's not that hard folks, if it sells anything don't post a link to it. Name it all you want and rely on our fellow PPRuNers' capabilities to use their favorite search engine if they want to buy a ticket etc..

Game on.

[bmibabyfc]

bmibaby - they never were scheduled to leave as late as that, they went that late due to the delays in the afternoon, think the crew would do a ams-ibz or edi-ibz etc..... but the scheduled time of dept was always 1955 or thereabouts!
yes it was a very long night and early morning when i had to wait for the ibz-ema to arrive home if we had any delays!! they were the days for some good overtime!!! ha!
am surprised that they are only doing it once a week, that surely cannot get a good customer base, and warrant the marketing costs (if any)
i remember we used to have alot of djs travel with us with their records that used to weigh alot - and alot of arguements about them too might i add - but U2 will be loving the xb they will get....
my personal opinion is that unless they increase the route to say 3 or 4 times a week then it will not work! i would love to have seen baby do it thurs,fri,sat,sun and mon..... when we did the loads were nearly all full on these select days and pax would leave after work on the fri and say return on the sun or even mon! mix this in with the holidaymakers and clubbers and you would get that a/c full on nearly every thurs,fri,sat,sun and mon!!
just my thoughts.......
regards
bmibabyfc

[phil_2405]

I guess easyJet have just added the route because the aircraft would have been just sitting on the ground otherwise?

[Banzai Eagle]

PHIL2005
Correct, peak Summer Holiday period, great way to earn loads of £ whilst aircraft normally sitting around. Crews might not be too happy though

[egnxema]

The germanwings rumour continues to float around, but personally I think it's a dead duck as I've heard it since late 2003. germanwings has established themselves at BHX, and whilst it might make sense to take a foothold in a less congested & partner airline hub airport, I don't see them doing that. EasyJet has wrapped up CGN, Ryanair are beginning SXF in March, and I'm simply not sure there is market for two airlines on these routes as well as services to HAM & STR - their other bases. It would be nice to see Lufthansa take over the old regional route to FRA, but again, it's pie in the sky!

I remembered you talking about this, interesting that germanwings will pull out of BHX in a few months and the BHX CGN be taken over by HLX. Is it one worth watching? :)

[transwede]

Excel to base MD83 a/c, more than likely the same one SCY used last summer, which suffered badly. By doing this XL are in danger of getting a bad reputation at EMA!

[phil_2405]

Ryanair base launches 2mw. First flight:

FR1682 Bergerac 06:50

:)

[GAZIN]

Re FedEx.
No sign of this rumour down here in Essex.
The only flights that will be affected by the restrictions IMO are Flt 2/1 Mem - Stn - Mem, arr around 17.30 dep 20.55 Tues, Wed, Thu, Fri. (Also arr Sat dep Mon). Flt 5 Stn-Ewr arr 21.00 dep 22.00 Tue, Wed, Thu, Sat.

If the Stn runway shuts completlely then some Airbus & ATR Air Contractors flights might also be affected.

Interesting thought though.

[bmibaby.com]

Not quite sure where my post went, but basically with regards to the germanwings rumour, I can only assume that they would want to fly to EMA if they were given a real incentive to do so. Whilst EMA has had notoriously inadequate links to Germany in the past, this summer we will have a daily evening flight to Berlin Schoenefeld (SXF) by Ryanair, as well as an evening flight to Cologne/Bonn (CGN) by easyJet. Both of these bases are also germanwings focus cities, and whilst 4U is said to have a fairly high level of service, no doubt thanks to the Lufthansa influence, I don't know whether they would want to go up against the existing no-frills airlines on the route.

Germanwings wasn't able to make a success of CGN from BHX, so I'm not sure what would happen from a base where there is already a no-frills airline on the route. It has been suggested that 4U was forced off the route by LH whose own Dusseldorf flight had suffered as a result of the Birmingham arrival of germanwings from Cologne. I know Lufthansa has quite a say in how their subsidiaries operate, bmi for example cannot fly to Germany without prior consent of Lufthansa, therefore I'd be surprised if they'd want their no-frills subsidiary just up the road from their successful & entrenched BHX operations.

I believe Hamburg with its Airbus links would be a successful service for business passengers, and was surprised for a similar reason that bmibaby dropped Toulouse. It would be nice to see the low-cost airlines from the Star Alliance fly to EMA, especially as I can't see any transferring their mainline ops from Birmingham. Centralwings & Germanwings ... we wish and hope ...

[phil_2405]

The airport is launching its draft masterplan tomorrow (10th Feb)

[egnxema]

The Airport Draft MAster Plan is now available to read on the airport's website.

No doubt it will take a bit of time to read through it in detail. The new terminal building has a few artists impressions printed in the plan.

[bmibaby.com]

The new Ryanair flights operated by the first based aircraft have been operating for nearly a week now, and it's been interesting to hear that every announcement I've heard has pronounced the Polish cities just about correctly. All of the routes seem reasonably popular, so I can only guess this is the beginning of Ryanair's expansion at the airport.

The Master Plan has been of great interest to read, and the proposed new terminal front looks magnificent. I was somewhat disappointed on Sunday watching the debate on the "Politics Show" how there were 3 anti-airport people, and only 2 supporters, however I think Penny Coates did a fantastic job defending the airport.

[phil_2405]

The Ryanair announcements I have heard too, have been pronounced correctly (well how I imagine they are pronounced!). I heard the first flight to Wroclow was full more or less! Surprised so many people want to fly to Wroclow and Lodz...any idea who the pax are? polish nationals?

[Mike16]

Hiya Guy's


Hope everyone is ok in the East Midlands area.
Well i have seen all the new details of the new airport and for the future it holds and all i can say is Go for it EMA.
The new terminal building looks great, but when will this be built ?
This would really make our airport stand out big time, i flew from EMA in Dec to Faro and i must say that the international departure lounge looks great now, just some staff who work there could benefit by going on a customer service course !!!!
Does anyone have any gossip on new routes, new carriers that may be coming to EMA ?

Take care all

Mike

[Lite]

Mike, when you mention staff not being very friendly, from which company do you mean? I've always found baby, Menzies, the EMA staff & SSP to be fantastic, just Servisair & alpha seem to have a well deserved reputation for being miserable.

phil, the Polish routes have indeed been doing well, some even with 100% loads! There seems to be a lot of native-Polish passengers, as well as expat Poles flying home. I think this is going to be a very useful link, and would expect more routes to Eastern Europe next time Ryanair expand.

Sadly, I've not heard any news about any more new services, the new Ryanair base clearly being the most exciting new opportunity. easyJet are of course operating a new route to Ibiza, but I have long given up entertaining the idea that they will expand. The big "rumour" appears to be that EMA & BHX are both eyeing up the Thomsonfly contract for four Boeing 737-500s if TOM choose to pull out of CVT, which would be quite lucrative.

[phil_2405]

Would NEMA be able to cope with all the TOM flights?!

[airhumberside]

Would TOM really move their CVT operations to NEMA? It would be a bit close to their DSA base with a large overlapping catchment area. Their loads at DSA would probably go down as well

[phil_2405]

I would think BHX would have the better chance of getting Thomsonfly CVT ops IF they wanted to move.

[bmibaby.com]

Whilst it's only a rumour, I think that Birmingham would have a far better chance at being able to take-on the Thomsonfly scheduled services. The TOM operation at CVT currently supports four Boeing 737-500s, and BHX has both a similar market to CVT as well as being better able to soak up the extra capacity. That's not to say that NEMA wouldn't be competitive to introduce more low-cost flights, also taking into account that TOM already has a good relationship with the Manchester Airport Group, however I don't know whether there's room for them at NEMA, also considering only BCN, PSA & VCE are the only three routes which are currently not served from EMA by any other airline, TOM would walk right into competing with EZY & WW.

[phil_2405]

easyJet operate EMA-VCE daily

[bmibaby.com]

easyJet do indeed operate Venice ... oops! I think Thomsonfly would be welcomed to EMA besides adding more flavour to the airport (BHX already has six low-cost airlines) the airline already has considerable operations at other MAG-owned airports (MAN & BOH) has a cabin-crew training centre at the airport, and this summer will be basing two aircraft. I'm sure the airport could accommodate four 735s if need be, but no doubt BHX would put up strict competition. This is all a rumour anyway, admittedly the situation at CVT isn't ideal for TOM, but the new owners are committed to a future at the airport.

Otherwise, not much news for the airport. It's been suggested that bmi regional might include a Saturday morning rotation on the EMABRU, and that bmi mainline is basing one A321 all week for Excel Airways, and an extra A320 from Friday-night to Sunday-night. bmibaby will be discontinuing NCE & MJV this summer, and FAO will move from once-weekly on Saturday afternoons, to Sunday mornings.

[phil_2405]

So bmi are basing 2 aircraft over the weekends?! I knew about the based bmi A320 but I thought that was it.

bmibaby - MJV + NCE are already dropped aren't they? I'm quite surprised the NCE isn't returning this summer with either bmi or baby...they have no competition on the route! Chance for new EZY route? (I live in hope!!). No chance of new, more interesting baby destinations this summer or winter 06/07 then?

[Regular Cappuccino]

Would NEMA be able to cope with all the TOM flights?!

We already do whenever there's fog at CVT ( & take DSA's traffic too, for the same reason)
RC

[almost professional]

Might have to lay more concrete to find room for 4 more B737's though RC, if the provisional summer programme is anything to go by-pushed already! ground on a weekday morning will be fun

[Regular Cappuccino]

Might have to lay more concrete to find room for 4 more B737's though RC,
Just get all those diggers and concrete layers out there to stay a bit longer.....:D

Ground on a weekday morning will be fun

You know you love it! (or you will when you've recovered from your leave...) :E

[almost professional]

sorry but thats why I have all those minions to do my bidding!

[Regular Cappuccino]

Currency? Wassat? :}
RC

[phil_2405]

Not sure if this has been mentioned already but Thomas Cook (TCX) are basing a B757 at NEMA this winter (06/07) :ok:

[phil_2405]

18 Summer Destinations With Excel Airways from NEMA
Excel Airways will now fly year-round from Nottingham East Midlands Airport (NEMA), with a choice of 18 European summer destinations in 2006 and the introduction of four routes throughout winter 2007.
Excel Airways' summer routes from Nottingham East Midlands Airport include the Canary Islands of Lanzarote, Gran Canaria, Fuerteventura and Tenerife, the Costa Blanca on mainland Spain and Majorca. You can also fly to Faro in the Algarve; the islands of Rhodes, Corfu, Zante, Kalamata, Skiathos, Kos and Cyprus, Turkey or Egypt.
In winter 2006/07 you will also be able to fly direct to the Canaries from NEMA including Fuerteventura, Gran Canaria and Tenerife, as well as to Sharm el Sheikh on Egypt's Red Sea Coast.

Not sure if this is new news or not? but its a new press release on the NEMA website.

[paul atkins]

HEY ALL EXCEL AND SISTER COMPANY FREEDOM WILL OFFER THE SHARM EL SHEIKH AND LANZAROTE ROUTES NEXT WINTER I THINK THE AIRPORT CANT COUNT I MAKE IT FIVE. ALSO THOMAS COOK WILL FLY NEW ROUTES TO SHARM EL SHEIKH ON MONDAYS AND GAMBIA(BANJUL) ON TUESDAYS
CHEERS PAUL

[captain_flynn]

Hey guys

How often does the AN124's visit NEMA? A friend of mine lives in Nottingham and really wants to see one arrive/depart and he'd like to know when the next one maybe visiting.

[UPSAirOps]

On a weekly basis - I'd say that it's a pretty regular visitor to EMA. Not sure of timetables and whatnot but I'm sure someone here can assist on more specific departures/arrivals of the aircraft.

[ALLDAYDELI]

AN124 NEMA - no schedules.. they are all adhoc charters!

[Navy_Adversary]

The Leicester Mercury have been running a story for the past couple of nights about a Ghanaian freighter struggling to get off the ground at EGNX.
This was alledged to have happened February 4th, supposed to have left wheel marks on 27 threshold and flew very low over Melbourne.
Edward Garnier the MP for Market Harborough brought up the subject in the House of Commons and now the enquiry is official.
The airport denies the allegations and welcomes the enquiry.

[Fried_Chicken]

Hmmm, wouldn't be this one would it...

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=209701

Looks like the airport might be telling a few porkies :}

Fried Chicken

[paul atkins]

HEY ALL STARTING 4/2/07(SUNDAYS) NEW FLIGHTS TO HOLGUIN IN CUBA THEY WILL OPERATE FORTNIGHTLY AND OPERATED BY FIRST CHOICE CHEERS PAUL

[bmibaby.com]

It's excellent news to hear that the charter market from EMA continues to grow, as this sector of the airline industry is often overlooked for the prized schedule routes. I'm glad to hear that First Choice will be expanding their longhaul operations with another new route to the Americas, as well as to see that after a fairly steady few years at EMA, Thomas Cook will also be adding two new cities and upgrading the based aircraft to a B757-200. Excel going year round will not only add more destinations which can be booked as part of a package or as seat only, but also allow for more jobs to be year-round for the airport. Does anybody know what aircraft they will be using?

bmibaby, it seems, are going fairly steadily at the airport, so at the moment there are no plans to add any new cities, especially as a number of the domestic flights are doing well now with up to 3 flights a day, I think the issue will be more on frequency. Murcia has definitely been dropped from EMA, with Nice now only available up the road from Birmingham, it seems that bmibaby is loathe to encroache on Ryanair's new French routes, especially after the sound beating we got from them on Dublin! Faro however is back at the end of the month, although I believe it has been moved from Saturday evening to Sunday morning. bmi regional will continue to base an ERJ from Sunday to Friday for the 3x daily BRU, and it has been confirmed that bmi (handled by Servisair) will base an A321 weeklong operating for Kosmar/XL.com, as well as an extra A320 on weekends.

[paul atkins]

HEY BMIBABY EXCEL ARE TO CHARTER THE VIKING MD83 FOR THE SUMMER UNDER THERE FLIGHT CODES(XLA&JN) AND FOR THE WINTER WITH VIKING CODES(VIK) .THE SUNDAY FLIGHT TO EGYPT IN WINTER WILL BE EXCEL DUE TO THE FLIGHT DISTANCE CHEERS PAUL


Paul, typing in all uppercase is the equivalent of shouting in internet protocol. Please dont shout in here.

[DC-10 Levo]

Heard that BMI at EMA are meant to be signing a contract with Menzies Aviation today. Anyone know if it went ahead?

[bmibaby.com]

DC-10 Levo, do you mean bmi or bmibaby?

I was aware that bmi mainline who will be operating the two charter aircraft to be based at EMA were due to have both passenger service & ramp functions handled by Servisair, although bmi have a very good relationship with Menzies at the airport. baby have always self-handled the PSA functions with a mixture of bmi & Menzies staff taking on ramp & maintenance support, which I think is going all Menzies.

[DC-10 Levo]

I thought it was BMI, but by the sounds of it it's Baby.

DC-10

[bmibabyfc]

just to clear things up here bmibaby is handled by bmibaby ground staff and menzies ramp, bmi regional is handled by bmibaby ground and menzies ramp, and i believe bmi will be handled by servisair (that includes everything)

hope thats cleared a few things up!

regards

bmibabyfc

[DRJ]

I was aware that bmi mainline who will be operating the two charter aircraft to be based at EMA were due to have both passenger service & ramp functions handled by Servisair, although bmi have a very good relationship with Menzies at the airport. baby have always self-handled the PSA functions with a mixture of bmi & Menzies staff taking on ramp & maintenance support, which I think is going all Menzies.
WRONG!
bmi charter who will be operating the 2 Airbus charter aircraft and the 3 Erj 145 charter flights from NEMA this summer will be handled as follows :
All Airbus charter flights will be handled by Menzies (Both Pax and ramp functions).
All Erj145 charter flights will be handled by bmibaby for Pax services and Menzies for ramp functions.
All bmi charter flights will be overseen by bmi's charter team.
All bmi charter flights will operate on BD flight numbers.
DRJ;)

[bmibabyfc]

yes DRJ, i was informed via text message a few hours after posting by a collegaue of mine to update me on the bmi charter handling!!

apologies again!!

bmibabyfc

[bmibaby.com]

Thanks DRJ, although I'm not sure that I wanted my mistakes to be highlighted in red & capital letters! After reading your post it reminded me that last summer's bmi regional charters to LJU were handled by bmibaby/Menzies, and I believe there are two other destinations which bmi regional will be utilising an ERJ-145 on on Saturdays, however I'm not sure exactly where these are, although Sardinia has been mentioned. The week-long A321 & weekend-based A320 are being handled by Servisair, mostly because they have the appropriate staffing levels, as well as a 24-hour operation at EMA to be able to support the bmi mainline charters, which are being operated for Kosmar & XL to Greece & Spain.

bmibaby handle all front-of-house services at EMA, whilst Menzies now do everything on the ramp. The reason I believed that this was previously a jointly operated ramp operation between Menzies & bmi was because there is still a large storage of bmi vehicles on Beverley Road, but I believe these are due to be sold. The Menzies operation is specifically called KISS (meaning something like Keep It Safe & Simple or Keep It Simple, Stupid) which was designed specifically for the low-cost airlines. It has been largely rumoured that KISS have been eyeing the easyJet contract, as EZY are handled by Menzies at a few of their bases including a jointly-owned handling operation at LTN.

I'm yet to see what bmibaby are doing with this new fifth aircraft, as it appears it flies to Paris in the morning, then sits on the ground all day before doing Paris in the evening. It would be nice to see a new route of sorts, but chance would be a fine thing!

[windshear-a-head]

Do you know the aircraft type that XL are using out of NEMA this year?

[bmibaby.com]

Just reread the post and am interested (and delighted) to see that the bmi Airbus charters will be handled by Menzies. They have a very professionally-run operation at EMA, and it is no surprise that bmibaby's experiences with them from a ramp perspective, has lead the mainline carrier to consider them for the charter operation. As mentioned, bmibaby simply do not have the resources to be able to handle these charters in group, but the regional charters (I'm pretty sure it's OLB & LJU, plus one more) will be baby handled.

Excel, as mentioned earlier in the post, will be using an MD-83 for their summer programme. This aircraft is leased from Viking Airlines, and was one of the terrible two that formed the backbone of Air Scandic's operation from here last year.

[Lite]

bmi have used Servisair before and I remember that they were happy with the service when we used to handle the bmi regional BRU operation when this route was first transferred back from bmibaby in late 2003 - although economies of scale saw the flight go back to baby/menzies. It makes sense for bmi's charter flights to be handled by Menzies, as regional & baby already are handled on the ramp by this company, but Menzies can also provide the front of house support. Menzies are indeed seen as a force to be reckoned with from a service perspective which is seen to be of a much higher level than Servisair, but I would disagree that the company is out for the easyJet contract, as they tend to go for boutique carriers, who are willing to pay a bit more for the better service. Whilst this is true of bmi & Thomas Cook, I don't see airlines like easyJet or Thomsonfly going for Menzies, even though the KISS product at EMA was originally devised specifically for low-cost airlines.

[irishcc]

Excel will now use a Greek registered MD83, SX-BSW, and not the Viking aircraft.

[phil_2405]

Menzies are indeed seen as a force to be reckoned with from a service perspective which is seen to be of a much higher level than Servisair, but I would disagree that the company is out for the easyJet contract, as they tend to go for boutique carriers, who are willing to pay a bit more for the better service.

I would disagree, I've heard Menzies are agressively seeking new business including easyJet.

[bmibaby.com]

I would be inclined to agree with phil, especially bearing in mind that the KISS brand that Menzies has developed for EMA is specifically designed for low-cost airlines, and so far only bmibaby is the only LCC at the airport to take advantage of this product. The company has successfully been providing handling for baby since 2002, and the airline has recognised Menzies for their hard work & good performance repeatedly. EasyJet have a relationship with Menzies at other bases, but I think that Servisair have managed to find the right level of pricing to keep the low-cost airlines happy, the service they provide can leave a lot to be desired though.

[DRJ]

I've heard Menzies are agressively seeking new business including easyJet.
Its no coincidence that Menzies have poached the ex bmibaby head of ground services to head up the regional management team for the Midlands and North West.
Expect to see some big changes !
Menzies are keen to secure new business !
Originally Posted by Lite
Menzies are indeed seen as a force to be reckoned with from a service perspective which is seen to be of a much higher level than Servisair, but I would disagree that the company is out for the easyJet contract, as they tend to go for boutique carriers, who are willing to pay a bit more for the better service
Menzies already have a commercial joint venture with easyjet elsewhere, as for carriers being prepared to pay extra for Menzies... well I can assure you that isnt true ... lowest price won contract !! ;)

[bmibabyfc]

ohh DRJ, well i say......

look like your in the know my son.......

regards

bmibabyfc

[Airbus215]

Indeed !
I think its fair to say that DRJ is most certainly in the know !
;)

[bmibaby.com]

Indeed DRJ seems to know a lot about what is going on at the airport, and it appears that Menzies may well be big competition for Servisair, who no doubt considering their somewhat meagre customer service offering, might be quaking in their boots. Ryanair & Thomsonfly are practically handled by Servisair nationwide, so the only big change I could potentially see happening was easyJet changing handling agent. I'd be interested to know anything that's going on with the handling agent situation at the airport.

It seems that the airport is in the process of installing CUSS machines which will be available for all passengers travelling on charter flights handled by Servisair, as well as bmibaby, and they should be up & running by the end of next month.

Also at the end of next month, the AirLine Shuttle buslink to Loughborough & Derby will begin running half-hourly, 24/7. This seems to fit well with the airport's desire to have more pax & staff coming to the airport by bus.

[phil_2405]

It seems that the airport is in the process of installing CUSS machines which will be available for all passengers travelling on charter flights handled by Servisair, as well as bmibaby, and they should be up & running by the end of next month.

Where did you get this info from?

[bmibabyfc]

fao phil,

i can confirm that they are installing cuss machines, the airport have confirmed it and maintanance has already started marking where they are going etc and as we speak the area in where they are going has been cornered off with scaffolding

regards

bmibabyfc

[Airbus215]

The CUSS system is due to go live very shortly,Subject to some areas of concern raised by the Airlines last week being actioned.

This is a trial for summer 2006 and will feature airlines handled by all 3 handling companies (bmi baby,Menzies and Servisair) Airlines participating include bmi charter,bmi baby,MyTravel Airways,First Choice, ThomsonFly,Eastern and Thomas cook.

Airlines and flights will start using CUSS in stages once the teething issues are overcome.

You cant miss the CUSS terminals... They are Bright green !

:\

[Lite]

phil, when you enter the main terminal building (not the tent bit where easyJet/Ryanair & First Choice are) there is a zone marked with duck tape in front of each of the entrance doors where the new CUSS machines are to be installed, as confirmed by Airbus215, there will be a trial system of airlines for this summer. It's not the first time CUSS has been attempted at the airport, desks 11/12 were at one time installed with self-service machines for use by bmibaby, with the intent that bmi regional & eastern would use the machines as well, but this progression never came about. I'm unaware what the exact situation is going to be with regards to designated bag drop points, but hopefully more information will be revealed shortly. As has been mentioned, the machines are bright green, which I think is frankly hideous. Why not put it in the corporate colours of the airport - red/white/blue, at least that way they will fit in with the terminal surroundings. These machines will not be staffed by members of the handling agents, I believe they will be the responsibility of the airport's CSAs.

It is interesting to see that Menzies have poached the head of ground handling from baby, and it appears that Menzies may indeed be the company to watch out for, bearing in mind KISS had been developed for bmibaby, and the Menzies Group has close relationships with easyJet through their joint venture at LTN, as well as handling a myriad of low-cost airlines at PRG & AMS. As far as I'm aware, the easyJet contract is not up for tender, but then again I wasn't under the impression by the airlines Menzies have been attracting over the last year or so that they were interested in handling more LCCs. From an asthetic (sp?) point of view, I must say that Menzies uniforms are hideous, but it's fantastic to hear they're expanding & thus taking on more staff. I was recently told that they'll be moving their offices into the terminal shortly, not sure if that's true.

[phil_2405]

Does anyone know what is happening to the easyJet SSK's at NEMA? They have been out of use for at least a week now and all flights are being checked in conventional.

All the MAG group CUSS kiosks are lime green. The whole idea being that they don't fit in with airport surroundings!! If they stand out, people will hopefully use them!

I like the Menzies uniform, better than Servisair.

[Lite]

Thanks phil for clearing up the issue of the reason why the MAG CUSS machines are bright green. I can't say I'm a huge fan of that colour, but it will be nice to see them installed, and interesting to see how many people utilise them.

Be advised that this season Servisair is rolling out a new uniform, which was incorporated during the merger with GlobeGround. EMA didn't get the new uniforms last year for all staff, just for those working in the executive lounge. They look so much nicer than the old Coco the Clown outfits, and all new staff as well as existing ones will receive them soon. They're navy blue with lightblue & yellow trim.

[bmibaby.com]

The old self-service machines which Lite mentioned that were positioned by desks 12/13, weren't particularly well used, and perhaps as a result of them being first generation, had a number of small technical faults which often made them out of service. No doubt, these new albeit garish machines, will be popular if they allow people to speed through the airport faster, and whilst I'm aware from CSA colleagues that there is concern for jobs, I would think these machines allow staff to spend more time with the passenger, rather than being stuck behind a desk doing paperwork. I have no idea of the exact ins-and-outs of how it will all work, but all will soon be revealed, how exciting! On a related note, the new internet checkin inspection posts at the entrance to central search appear to cause nothing but longer queues, do any of you have a different experience?

Does anyone have any idea how the Ryanair routes are doing? The next batch begin next week with the arrival of the second based aircraft. By all accounts they appear, particularly the Polish routes, to be quite popular, and it will be interesting to see if FR are considering more aircraft. Speaking of expansion, on the off chance has anyone heard anything from EZY?

[phil_2405]

What do you mean that there is concern for jobs? :confused:
I think the new boarding card check as you enter security has caused some problems but there seems to be more to it than that.
New Ryanair routes are doing well apparently...esp Wroclaw. Ryanair will definitely base more aircraft at some point I would say.

[bmibaby.com]

Concern for jobs as in there will be a need for far fewer staff if more passengers are using automated kiosks to checkin, this has certainly been the case in some airports in the US where this has been introduced, especially considering most shorthaul flights only really require 1 CSA at the gate to get the flight boarded.

Glad to hear the Ryanair flights are doing well, I can think of plenty of cities on their route network which would do well with service from EMA, and really hope this season is a success for them. The web checkin seems to have had mixed results. Hopefully the creases are being ironed out.

[Lite]

Hopefully EMA hasn't lost out to DSA with the expansion of Ryanair's Pisa base, DSA will be getting four flights a week beginning in September, and I think a PSA route would be particularly popular from the airport serving the Tuscany region which appears to be having a boom in the second home owner sector.

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CUSS is green for the same reason phone boxes and pillar boxes are red. So they are easily spotted and quickly become familiar.

The "in desk" trial of CUSS was a trial, which turned out to be less than successful for lots of predictable reasons - mixing hand and hold baggage pax; lack of visibility; obstruction of the desk by CUSS users getting in the way of traditional check in pax etc.

Moving them to be the first thing you see, away from the desks, is proven to be the best technique. BA learned the same thing at MAN T3.

That's the point of a trial.

I've just flown from EMA for the first time and I loved it. What a great little airport! Easy parking, everything on one floor, just enough of the right sort of shops. Great.

[bmibaby.com]

I don't doubt that Ryanair haven't considered launching a new flight to Pisa from EMA, especially as this service proved to be extremely popular from what I can remember when bmibaby did it, and because like EMA, PSA is a base. The Ryanair base is just under two months old, so I can see things standing still for a little while as they ponder their options, before going for any other major expansion. I wouldn't be surprised if Bergamo came about as well.

I agree that the trial with the CUSS machines were a bit of a failure, not least because nobody actually knew what they were, or were easily distinguishable. I think you definitely need to have, like the easyJet machines, have one staff member to a block of about four, to assist passengers, or just to have a token presence. Lite mentioned that it will be the airport's own CSAs assisting pax with the new machines, so I wonder if they will need to be familiar with the individual airlines' products or what exactly the airlines will want to make sure their brand is still visible.

I've still not seen the new Servisair uniforms, but am looking forward to it. Whilst I'm not sure how their recruitment is going, it's always nice to have fresh & interested faces about the airport. Been a while since Menzies or baby have advertised for ground staff, though from my experience they offer the more professional level of service, therefore I wouldn't be surprised if Menzies are on their way to new contracts. Maybe DRJ knows more ...

[DC-10 Levo]

I just got a job with Menzies for the summer season! :) Really looking forward to it.

[Lite]

DC-10 Levo, congratulations on your job offer from Menzies, what exactly will you be doing with them up at EMA?

I think there are some pictures of the new Servisair uniform on the Penauille-Servisair website, that's another thing to bear in mind, that the company had a name change at the beginning of the year. There hasn't appeared to be much hooplah about it, but no doubt if you sniff around you'll find something.

[bmibabyfc]

ah well done DC-10, come and say hello when you start - you will get to know me through my obvious name!!

regards

bmibabyfc

[Little Blue]

bmibabyfc....
Evening sir !
Speaking of Menzies, I didn't know that you parked yr car so close to my house until my good Menzies lady spotted u climbing out of it ! U could've popped round for a beer !
Surprised that you didn't feel the urge to apply to Menzies and join the ex-baby/bmi contingent !
.
Tot ziens !:)

[DC-10 Levo]

ah well done DC-10, come and say hello when you start - you will get to know me through my obvious name!!

regards

bmibabyfc

I certainly will do. Start my training with them on the 18th April, can't wait! They all seem like a really nice bunch. I'm starting off "front-of-house" with the opportunity to help out on the ramp if they need an extra pair of hands so I believe I'll be trained on both sides.

DC-10

[Little Blue]

DC-10....
You'll enjoy working for Menzies....My good lady will be helping you with
yr training, before she goes off to pop out our baby. In fact, she will have interviewed you . You must have made an impression !
Good luck !

[egnxema]

Good afternoon all!

With the 2nd FR based aircraft arriving next week it will be novel to see a few new destinations on the screens.

What are the chances on BCN coming back - seems a bit strange that a couple of seasons ago it was on the EZY and WW routemap, but now nobody does it. I'd have thought that BCN is still pulling the crowds like PRG. Any easyBodies or babyBodies heard anything?

Was interested that FR have chosen PSA DSA, surely some more Italian cities would be welcomed with open arms at EMA.

[bmibaby.com]

I too thought it quite strange that Ryanair decided to give the new Pisa route to Doncaster/Sheffield considering EMA's new status as a base, but I'm sure in the grand scheme of things there is a potential new route somewhere. As has been mentioned before there is huge potential with this route, as there is a growing second home market here, as well as the place being simply stunning for short breaks. bmibaby did this route if I remember rightly in 2003, but as the airline focused on specific markets, PSA along with BGY left the network. From what I remember though, despite competition at that time from MyTravelLite at BHX the route was fairly popular. Bergamo too was operated by bmibaby, originally a few times a week before being reduced to weekly. Besides serving a lot of ski resorts, Bergamo is just as convenient for Milan as Malpensa from my experience, so I think considering easyJet don't seem to be planning any expansion from EMA, Ryanair has a sure bet in this market too.

Whilst I'm a strong supporter of the no-frills airlines, I think classing Girona as Barcelona is disgraceful. The problem according to WW about the BCN route was the late slots that we had, which caused various operational issues. I think that BCN alongside MAD has potential from EMA, but I don't see baby bringing it back in the forseeable future.

Good luck next week to Ryanair though with the second aircraft.

[bmibabyfc]

yes little blue, im only a stones throw away!!!

have no plans to change my alliance, im blue and red all the way through when it comes to work, not those colours for my football team though hey!

yes it would be nice to see the bcn return or even mad but like bmibaby pointed out it was the problem with the late slots as to why it was so chopped! - even ezy agreed!

at the minute i am very impressed by what is going on at baby, we are making a very good profit and at the minute and there is no need to introduce loads of new routes just like that. They are maintaining what theyve got and will add when the time is right.

however, if new routes were to be announced it would be nice for ema to get a few, i think we deserve it!

an interesting point from the last couple of days was the canx of the ryanair girona flight - due to a late slot they just decided to canx it. Now without prejudging ( i cant because i didnt know the slot time) i would say that they are brave and very cruel to do this. A party of around 30 school children were stranded and had to go to various airports just to get to girona, and the unfortunate thing about it is that are not in the EU regs - so all these pax would not get any compensation unless they took the matter further - i.e court. i think they ended up paying around 5k to get them there!

i dont ever remember bmibaby canx a flight due to a bad slot, we work around it and our fab team at ops sort it with changes of the a/c - im sure you will gloat in that one little blue......

anyone have any views on this??? you all know i dislike ryanair and the above is an example of why i do - amongst all the other things they get away with at EMA!

regards

bmibabyfc

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All this talk about handling agents.

When I flew with FR I didn't even notice who handled them, right out to the a/c and back again a few days later.

Sorry whoever you were, cos you did a great job!

[fantasia]

a flight east midlands-marseilles could be open ...

maybe ryan air ? easyjet ?