L1011PFE
24th Sep 2005, 17:57
Well it looks like Northeast Airlines (NEA) is trying once again to operate the Hajj. By their own admission, they still owe money to crews from at least 3 years ago, of which I am one. I've recently requested they pay me the money owed. They have declined. They claim, once again, that it isn't their fault they can't pay their crews. There is always an outside force, which causes them harm and ruins their business so they can’t pay. I suppose this year it will be me. I will freely admit I would not be writing this if they had paid me.
I won't tell anyone they are incompetent. Nor, will I suggest anyone -with a half a brain- to avoid these guys like the plague. I won't tell you that if you work for them they won't pay you. I won't even tell you that they are liars.
I will tell you, however, that they still owe me, a lot of other crewmembers and other entities, a lot of money! This they admit freely! They even promise to pay those debts! In fact, a few of us who are persistent enough and who have forced their hand, have actually been paid some of the money they owe. I've gotten half. I've been lucky. Most guys have gotten near nothing or nothing.
If you have not heard of NEA or reviewed the forums from the past, please do a search on PPRuNe. Some of the information you read I think is a bit exaggerated, that I admit. But, most, I think, will be true.
If you are going to fly the Hajj as a crewmember this year or going to contract NEA as your airline, please do yourself a favor and do the research. Check out the L-1011 still sitting in Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso and ask yourself why is that airplane still there? Also ask yourself how the crewmembers who never got paid, managed to get home from there. I was one of them. I had to pay my own way home after sitting there for several weeks waiting for NEA to do the right thing and at least get me home.
If you are going to work for them or do business with them this year, ask them why the Nigerian CAA banned them last year. Ask them why they sat in Niger for 2 days because of someone else who screwed up. Find out about their impounded 747 in Gambia last year. E-mail the Captain who had to go to a Gambian court on NEA’s behalf to secure its release (of course it wasn’t NEA’s fault, it was the tour operator). How is it NEA always has these problems? Is it their management or the fault of someone else? Do you want this to be you this year?
I got a personal PPRuNe message today from a potential NEA contractor. He wanted my opinion about them. I decided to give NEA one last chance to make things right with me before I responded to that message. I received a reply today from NEA about my demands for full payment due. They threatened me with legal action if I alerted my fellow crewmembers or potential clients as to their already well documented past. No it wasn’t an outright threat. It was subtle, but I got the drift.
Say what you will about me for believing these guys or for standing up for them in the past. Call me a fool, you are probably right. Just take caution, or you may be the next fool! For more information, send some of the other crewmembers or myself e-mails. Enlighten yourself! I will gladly furnish you with e-mail addresses and answer your questions.
By the way, NEA will no doubt respond to this directly. They are very convincing. They had me fooled for 3 years. They may even pose as other crewmembers supporting them (which I can’t prove, but I’ve been told they have done in the past). They will probably even threaten legal action against PPRuNe or at least try to have me barred or removed from this forum (those were also some of their subtle threats). I just hope I can inform a few of you before that happens.
One more thing, if you have had an experience, good or bad, with NEA, please post a reply to this message. I would love to hear what others have to say.
Be safe and get your money up front this Hajj season!
I won't tell anyone they are incompetent. Nor, will I suggest anyone -with a half a brain- to avoid these guys like the plague. I won't tell you that if you work for them they won't pay you. I won't even tell you that they are liars.
I will tell you, however, that they still owe me, a lot of other crewmembers and other entities, a lot of money! This they admit freely! They even promise to pay those debts! In fact, a few of us who are persistent enough and who have forced their hand, have actually been paid some of the money they owe. I've gotten half. I've been lucky. Most guys have gotten near nothing or nothing.
If you have not heard of NEA or reviewed the forums from the past, please do a search on PPRuNe. Some of the information you read I think is a bit exaggerated, that I admit. But, most, I think, will be true.
If you are going to fly the Hajj as a crewmember this year or going to contract NEA as your airline, please do yourself a favor and do the research. Check out the L-1011 still sitting in Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso and ask yourself why is that airplane still there? Also ask yourself how the crewmembers who never got paid, managed to get home from there. I was one of them. I had to pay my own way home after sitting there for several weeks waiting for NEA to do the right thing and at least get me home.
If you are going to work for them or do business with them this year, ask them why the Nigerian CAA banned them last year. Ask them why they sat in Niger for 2 days because of someone else who screwed up. Find out about their impounded 747 in Gambia last year. E-mail the Captain who had to go to a Gambian court on NEA’s behalf to secure its release (of course it wasn’t NEA’s fault, it was the tour operator). How is it NEA always has these problems? Is it their management or the fault of someone else? Do you want this to be you this year?
I got a personal PPRuNe message today from a potential NEA contractor. He wanted my opinion about them. I decided to give NEA one last chance to make things right with me before I responded to that message. I received a reply today from NEA about my demands for full payment due. They threatened me with legal action if I alerted my fellow crewmembers or potential clients as to their already well documented past. No it wasn’t an outright threat. It was subtle, but I got the drift.
Say what you will about me for believing these guys or for standing up for them in the past. Call me a fool, you are probably right. Just take caution, or you may be the next fool! For more information, send some of the other crewmembers or myself e-mails. Enlighten yourself! I will gladly furnish you with e-mail addresses and answer your questions.
By the way, NEA will no doubt respond to this directly. They are very convincing. They had me fooled for 3 years. They may even pose as other crewmembers supporting them (which I can’t prove, but I’ve been told they have done in the past). They will probably even threaten legal action against PPRuNe or at least try to have me barred or removed from this forum (those were also some of their subtle threats). I just hope I can inform a few of you before that happens.
One more thing, if you have had an experience, good or bad, with NEA, please post a reply to this message. I would love to hear what others have to say.
Be safe and get your money up front this Hajj season!