View Full Version : Someone tell Toshiba this might not be a good idea..

17th Sep 2005, 15:04
Toshiba Integrates Prototypes of World's Smallest Direct Methanol Fuel Cell Unit into Mobile Audio Players



17th Sep 2005, 15:40
Looks like a great idea - what do you mean ? No more pesky batteries...

If there's a safety issue then ban them on board.

I'm not gonna tell Victorinox that knives aren't a good idea ! - just not good on an aircraft.

17th Sep 2005, 15:58
>>I'm not gonna tell Victorinox that knives aren't a good idea ! - just not good on an aircraft.

Well, the carry-on ban really hurt both Victorinox and Wenger, one would think it might impact a portable music player:

Victorinox acquires rival Wenger

May 04, 2005

Victorinox, the largest official manufacturer of Swiss Army knives, has acquired Wenger, its only competitor.

The purchase will allow production of the genuine knives to remain in Switzerland and will provide Wenger with the financial backing it needs to continue its operations, a press statement from Victorinox said of the deal.

"Keeping the Swiss cross in Swiss hands is the best way to move forward," Victorinox Director Carl Elsener, said in the statement, adding that the purchase would put the firms on a better footing to compete with cheap copies.

The two Swiss Army knife manufacturers will each maintain their own brands under the deal. The Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in the United States hurt the Swiss knife industry because although airline passengers can buy the knives in duty free stores, they can no longer take them on aircraft as carry-on luggage.

Together, the two companies manufacture some 25.7 million knives and export them to around 150 countries.


17th Sep 2005, 18:06
Talking of Swiss army knives, I was given a Swiss Army Card for my last birthday by my stepsister. This has a knife about 1" long and a little pair of scissors with blades about 1/2" long and I didn't see it as very dangerous. I have only been on four flights since then and have not had any problem, but I did hear of someone who had to leave theirs behind on check-in. As this was a present I don't want to lose it, so does anybody know if these are prohibited or not?

As I See It
17th Sep 2005, 19:27
Has it got a knife, then yes it is banned in hand luggage. Has it got scissors, then yes it is banned in hand luggage. Sharp and metal is a no no, however innocuous you may feel it is.

17th Sep 2005, 20:24
But I can carry a fully loaded glass bottle on board:rolleyes:


17th Sep 2005, 23:04
ok, I can't resist it

"Oi Tosh!! No! You might be one World's leading electronics firm, but that's not a good idea!" :)

17th Sep 2005, 23:18
As always, YMMV. I once had a nice Belkin screwdriver set confiscated in Calgary, Canada -- after I had already traveled the world with it. Nothing more than 1-1/2 inches long, fully self contained (case doubled as handle). No knife, no scissors. I guess they thought I was going to disassemble the aeroplane with it... :\

18th Sep 2005, 01:00
As a fire risk how does 3.5ml of methanol in a fuel cell powered MP3 player compare to 400ml of ethanol in a bottle of vodka? Or a box of matches for that matter?

18th Sep 2005, 01:54
A LONG time ago a colleague had to rush a Jet-A sample (500 ml) back to the lab. It was in a thick-wall tough polyethylene bottle that likely would have survived a crash or two. He put it in his briefcase and carried it to - uh oh - the security checkpoint.

The young lady opened the briefcase and said "What's this?"

My colleague, in his best rural Southern accent, said "Well, ma'am, my horse is feeling poorly and the vet asked me to bring him back a specimen..." Before he could finish she slammed the case shut and sent him on his way!

We never felt there was any undue risk in the episode, compared to 1.75 liters of 90+ proof ethanol in a duty-free glass bottle.

16 blades
18th Sep 2005, 03:57
Don't fuel cells get bloody hot during operation?


Flight Detent
18th Sep 2005, 06:47
"16 Blades" Just a small off-topic question, that looks like a P3 prop there, round tips and all, on your logo, is that the case?

Do you have any affilliation with P3s at all?

Just curious!

Cheers, :confused:

18th Sep 2005, 07:35
Hang on a minute....

.... a device that reproduces music, and is powered by alcohol? I don't think there's anything new in that idea at all....

RIP, R.P. McMurphy.