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Aerospit
13th Jan 2001, 22:29
Heard a rumour that the Management of both the North Sea companies are considering asking for an alleviation from the CAA for their pilots to fly up to an annual 900 hours instead of 800.

Any truth in the rumour?

HOGE
13th Jan 2001, 22:50
Any truth in the rumour that salaries will rise by the same proportion??

DragDamper
14th Jan 2001, 02:05
Yeah Right! to both the above. 1. Have you seen the state of many of the pilots hitting 800hrs? Are they what you want to see when going offshore? Not me bud. With what sense the CAA possess thay can not extend that 800hrs without seriously exposing their behinds for a severe beating sooner or later, probably sooner. 2. More money to N.Sea pilots! With both companies pleading poverty, despite vast sums being sent to foreign masters, any payrise would tell the oil companies that rates are too high.
Lets face it this is dying business. People talk of Captains leaving for fixed wing jobs, better pay etc etc, partly true but some are just leaving for less pay, non aviation etc beaten by a bad system.

212man
14th Jan 2001, 02:28
Can't see it myself. Short term alleviations are one thing, but annual totals is getting into chronic fatigue territory. It would be pretty hard to defend in court with Cap 371 sitting on the defendent lawyer's desk.

Besides, it's not just the CAA, what of Shell?

But if they do, it's 12.5% all round...yeah, right.

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finalchecksplease
14th Jan 2001, 13:10
Apparently Scotia tried but got a negative from the CAA. But if the oil-giants will start putting pressure on the CAA & government things can change but not the wages that's for sure.


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Cyclic Hotline
14th Jan 2001, 20:15
It is conceivable that in the "new" North Sea, that the offshore unions might be quite capable of stopping any percieved degradation of safety standards, to any means of transportation.

Take the Helicopter offshore SAR proposal as an example.

One of the potential outcomes of the the wave of mergers and consolidation in the oil industry, may be the increased power of the Unions. It is much easier to organise the employees of (say) four major companies, than (say) eight!

It may be that the oil companies have inadvertently provided consolidation in more ways than they ever considered.

sumpy76
18th Jan 2001, 18:40
What about engineers hours?????

Low N aahhR
22nd Jan 2001, 00:35
Indeed. Engineers work long hours. Too long in many cases, but if they put more effort into improving their lot by forming one union like the pilots did decades ago rather than whining about us greedy pilots then i think you might get somewhere. Please don't criticise us for putting effort into improving our lot.

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