Log in

View Full Version : Difference between JAA, FAA, and Singapore License


Terryble
14th Aug 2005, 10:41
Kinda confused right now.

Singapore AIrlines Pilots have license from which standard? Or is it a Singapore Standalone standard?

What's the real difference between a JAA ATPL and FAA ATPL and Singapore ATPL?

BlueEagle
14th Aug 2005, 11:53
Singapore have their own 'stand alone' licence, PPL, CPL and ATPL etc. The exams and the rules governing its issue are loosely based on the UK system. Subject to experience Singapore CAAS will accept FAA and JAA/UK licences and issue a Singapore licence on the strength of the foreign licence but I think this is mainly for direct entry captains and well qualified F/Os.

speedtwoten
14th Aug 2005, 12:34
Blue,

Singapore have a stand alone standard, it may be the best in the world because :
depend on what position you are applying, if you come for Direct Entry FO, your ATPL license (if you got one) whatever standard are they JAA, FAA, ICAO are recoqnise only to be as Singapore CPL/IR :confused: and if times come for your command training (you must be in national term to be considered) then get your Singapore ATPL in your own time & money:{

Terryble
14th Aug 2005, 12:48
To Blue Eagle : If I wanna "invest" in a foreign license, which is a better license? FAA or JAA?

Which has better chances for conversion to a Singapore license?

Read in another thread that SIA switching to JAA standards soon, dunno how true is that

speedtwoten : For a singaporean ATPL holder, what are the conversion prospects to a JAA/FAA airline? Do we need to go for conversions as well?

Left Wing
14th Aug 2005, 15:22
Singapore Flying College in Perth issue a CASA CPL which meets the Sing CAAS stds, guess a CASA CPL will be best for a conversion to Sing CPL:ok:

BlueEagle
14th Aug 2005, 23:33
I can't answer that question for you Terryble, I'm afraid, just depends on where you plan to work later in life, after SIA for example. Some regulators will only accept FAA whilst other will only accept JAA and some accept both.
In terms of time and money the FAA multi engine, IR is probably quicker and cheaper than the JAA equivalent but if you will be in a position where you eventually need to study for a Singaporean ATPL then a JAA will give you a much better grounding as I'm fairly certain Singapore will follow the JAA standard.
Other licences you may want to consider are the Australian one and the New Zealand one.
As far as Singapore is concerned I suggest you call CAAS and talk to them about which ones they accept with what level of experience etc.

bfd777
15th Aug 2005, 00:08
BlueEagle,
How 'bout a Canadian license? Their DCA also follows UK and I am told is recognised on par with Oz and NZ licenses. Any opinions about how they are regarded?
Cheers

Terryble
15th Aug 2005, 01:58
Leftwing: Its kinda hard to get into the Perth SFC. Tried checking with Singapore based SFC and they told me to try SIA instead as they are committed to SIA training currently and have no vacancies. What does CASA stand for anyway?

BlueEagle : What is the main difference between a FAA and JAA? Is conversion "difficult" in terms of syllabus? From what I read on the website of CAAS, conversion is possible but the most important thing is that you are employed by a local (Singapore) Airline first.

alert5
15th Aug 2005, 04:32
I know a guy who wants to be a Singapore Flying Instructor. He was told by CAAS to get a FAA ATPL, do a flight test and sit for some papers. That will covert it to a CAAS CPL.

freaktrimmer
15th Aug 2005, 05:31
terryble,

CASA = Civil Aviation Safety Authority Australia
google things, u nvr know what u'll find !
cheers,

FT

guys,

since we r on the topic of licence conversions, i\'ve got one question too. What are the chances of converting a Singapore ATPL to an Indian ATPL.
cheers,

FT

Terryble
15th Aug 2005, 11:59
Checked online, the nearest place to get a Singapore equivalent license, is MFA in Malaysia.

Anyone here from MFA?