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starflex3
11th Aug 2005, 07:43
Does anyone own a copy on DVD of Deadly Encounter, it star's Larry Hagman.
I know its bad acting and its old but the flying in it is great.
I would like to get a copy of it, as it is no longer available.
Can any one help me?

KevinLonghurst
11th Aug 2005, 17:02
Do you know I threw out the film Deadly Encounter on 3 DVds (burned for me by a guy in the states a while back) about a month ago....typical !
I've still got a vhs copy.
I've just looked on Ebay, there's a vhs there available for $15 plus p&p, that's where I got my vhs from.
Problem sorted.
Kev

starflex3
11th Aug 2005, 23:30
Thanks mate I will look for it.
Thanks for your help.

Skeeter Pilot
14th Aug 2005, 01:00
I have VHS too! As you say, poor plot but made by someone who clearly loves helicopters.
SP
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Hilico
14th Aug 2005, 08:43
I got talking to Vaqueroaero one time about this film - he was actually going to meet Larry Hagman. I'm sure he won't mind me quoting his PM on the subject:

'[Hagman] summed up making 'Deadly Encounter' as "Totally nuts"!

Apparently most of the stunts he was in the 500, but had no idea how dangerous the stuff was until afterwards. As he pointed out they never got the shot on the first take. If you've seen the movie, the part where they fly through the shed by the docks took 5 takes to get the desired shots. He's not a rated pilot, but shook the stick for some of the scenes. He said he really struggled to keep it in a straight line.'


!

BobbyBolkow
14th Aug 2005, 11:49
Hi Starflex,
Can't say I've seen Deadly Encounter. Don't know if you've seen 'Birds of pray'? Stars David 'fugitive' Jensen. Again crap plot, but GR8 flying scenes. Basically hero in 500 chases baddy bank robbers in Alouette 2 all over the Mid-West.
Check it out you may enjoy!

B Sousa
14th Aug 2005, 12:05
Try this:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6300253074/qid=1124021033/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl27/102-8282940-0792966?v=glance&s=video&n=507846

TheStormyPetrel
14th Aug 2005, 13:41
I don't think that's the right movie. It was made a different year (1975 not 1982) and doesn't star Larry Hagman - just basing it on this (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0083800/). Take care!!

NickLappos
14th Aug 2005, 13:46
The movie you are talking about is surely:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083800/

The other great helo movie was "Birds of Prey" starring David Janssen. Fantastic helo flying:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069787/

Ed Thrust IV
14th Aug 2005, 18:10
I have been looking for “Deadly Encounter” on DVD for over a year. Please let me know if you find a source. There is one copy on Amazon.com at the moment but it is over $500. (It is still there if you want it) I managed to get a copy of “Birds of Prey” about two weeks ago on DVD on ebay for $14.00. I think there are still copies available. The other great helicopter sequence of that era is the last ten minutes of “Capricorn One” with Telly Savalis. Fantastic stuff. Jim Gavin and Davy Jones I seem to recall were the great pilots of the era. Definitely worth a watch if you can find a copy of any of the above.

starflex3
14th Aug 2005, 22:27
I managed to find a new copy on DVD of Birds Of Prey at Amazon.
Its only $9.95 US.
Dont know how I am going to play it on a region 4 DVD player But I will have to work that out as I go.
Does anyone know how to copy and remove the region encoding?

NickLappos
14th Aug 2005, 23:21
If you are pretty computer savy, and happen to have a hack-able DVD player, here is a site that can help:

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks

If not, check the list and see which DVD's are easy to hack and get that one. I have a DVD that can read any region code, found it on eBay (of course!)

Just look for a DVD that is capable of "region 0" (that's a zero). Here is an example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/DVD-6800-5-1-Channel-Karaoka-DVD-Player-0-Region-New_W0QQitemZ5796838237QQcategoryZ50599QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem

Also, all DVD's on computers are region 0, I believe.

B Sousa
15th Aug 2005, 00:24
It appears we have some interest here. From what I gather after reading the synopsis for both, that the one wanted is more than likely a 1982 TV adaptation of the movie done in 1975. New Cast etc. That will surely make it harder to find. To do some research I would need the Studio etc and then contact them. Never say never as someone does have the answer.
I have a good friend who is an actor and did some of the Dallas series with "The Hag" I will email him for the straight scoop.
By the way the www.imdb.com site is a great reference, I use it all the time. Another great search site is www.copernic.com they have a free download that will compete with the best of them..

cobra427
15th Aug 2005, 00:49
For Info on "ripping" DVD check out this site....

http://www.dvdr-digest.com/articles/articles.php?article_id=23&mode=print

Starflex if you need any help just PM or Email me I'll be glad to help....


Nick, DVD drives on computers are not region 0 but normally get set to what ever the region is of the first DVD you play or are set to the region in which you purchased the DVD player. Having said this there are a few ways to change the region code on many computer and consumer DVD players.....

starflex3
15th Aug 2005, 10:38
Thanks cobra427 thats a great site, seems to explain it all.

Simon853
15th Aug 2005, 12:36
Pushing the boundaries of believable reality past its limit, the entire first season of Airwolf was released on region 1 DVD a month or so back.

Si

HOGE
15th Aug 2005, 21:45
Re: the plot in Deadly Encounter, I was amused on first viewing of the film to see Larry Hagman refuelling the 500 with a mixture of petrol and diesel. (The heroine of the film bought some flip flops at the same time, I seem to remember). What are the consequences of running a turbine on non Jet A1 fuel?

B Sousa
16th Aug 2005, 02:58
HOGE. No problem. Just requires a write-up at least in the Huey. Many times in the old days when we had long x/c flights in the states we used to take on a bit of avgas.... Cant do it everytime, but it works. Write up I think required a hot end check after so long....
Now in a recip things will get quiet real quick if you dump in Jet A. Most recent I remember was a twin in San juan PR. It got off the end of the runway before the engines said." nope thats Jet A ,I quit"

eurojojo
3rd Jun 2006, 23:36
Hai, just to let you know that fans digitally restored Deadly Encounter from VHS, since the original DVDs were nowhere to be found. It is not an ordinary VHS-to-DVD transfer. The original frame sequence was retrieved, de-interlaced, noise canceled, and PAL, NTSC and DivX versions constructed from the restoration process. The new NTSC runs much smoother than the original NTSC... Check out eBay.

The Rotordog
4th Jun 2006, 01:41
HOGE asked: What are the consequences of running a turbine on non Jet A1 fuel?

Depends on the turbine. Those of us "of a certain age" will remember when turbine helicopters had heaters designed to run on gasoline. They didn't like kero much, and were so finicky that you could easily "foul the plug" or something and find yourself freezing your tootsies. Back in those bad-old-days of Janitrols in Jetrangers, we would routinely put in up to one-third avgas in the jet fuel with no restriction. I don't have my RR manuals in front of me, but I believe that little model 250 sewing machine would probably run fine on orange juice if it's all you had.

Darren999
4th Jun 2006, 02:19
I think with the AS350 you can use up to 25 gallons of Avgas, per engine to TBO.....:confused:

TukTuk BoomBoom
4th Jun 2006, 09:43
....and the number one thing to remember with avgas in the 500 is leave the boost pump on all the time!!
Otherwise youll be explaining the auto to your boss or insurance company.
I think its 25% max by volume.

I once saw an AS350 that had been running straight avags, white exhaust pipe so you can imagine what the NGVs looked like.

Great movie Deadly Encounter, i hear Larry H had a pilots licence at the time.

Hiro Protagonist
4th Jun 2006, 13:30
I think with the AS350 you can use up to 25 gallons of Avgas, per engine to TBO.....:confused:

Going from memory, I think it's 25 hours in the period between inspections.

Big Bucks Bernie
4th Jun 2006, 21:15
If you happen to live in Germany and have access to "Kinowelt Television", well then it looks like you are in luck - "Deadly Encounter" will be showing on that TV channel on July 2, 2006 at 12:35 in the afternoon.
(see Treibjagd in den Wolken (http://www.kinowelt.tv/programm.php?tt=4/0/2/7/2006/536))

simon beck
2nd Dec 2011, 23:14
Anyone know the N-numbers for the red Jet Ranger and the
Hughes 500C from this film?

Thank you

Savoia
3rd Dec 2011, 04:09
Simon

This would be a good topic for Chopper2004's new http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/470397-helicopters-movies-aerial-filming-techniques.html thread.

The 'Flying Egg' from this movie and her driver were fairly well known in the early 80's.

The driver was Larry Kirsch flying a 500C Reg: N4EE. It was always any easy number to recall! Regarding the 206 .. you'd probably have to watch the movie very carefully in order to get it.

The storyline, acting and justification for most of the stunts was total sh*te but, some of the flying scenes were watchable and, when it came out, I did see it a couple of times. Now though I wouldn't be able to punish myself in that way!

One of the most notable stunts in the film was Larry flying through two storm drains (undoubetdly a piece of skillful flying). As I said, he became fairly well known Stateside for some years after the film was released.

You can read more about the movie here (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083800/fullcredits) and here (http://www.rotaryaction.com/pages/dlyenctr.html) and there are two pages of PPRuNetalk on the matter (from 2005) here (http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/185483-deadly-encounter-movie.html).

500 Fan
3rd Dec 2011, 19:44
If you think the acting was bad in "Deadly Encounter", you should watch "Birds of Prey"!

Birds of Prey - YouTube

Here is something along a similar vein. It seems the final part of this sequence was inspired by "Birds of Prey".

240-ROBERT "Bank Job" chase scene - YouTube

It's a shame that the CGI boys are making most of the helicopter stunt scenes in films these days. Surely there are some very good pilots out there of a similar calibre to Larry Kirsch and Jim Gavin. Perhaps it is the insurance industry that is preventing these kinds of scene from being shot now.

500 Fan.

FH1100 Pilot
3rd Dec 2011, 20:22
Got to love ol' David Janssen (a pilot in real life) using a hand mic in that noisy 500. Hah! And in that 240-Robert clip, it looks like the 47 pilot whacks the tail rotor guard pretty good when he's hovering around in that building. Good thing he didn't do a replay of the Hiller pilot's bonehead move in "Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes."

KiwiBoyZac
8th Jan 2012, 06:47
Does anyone have any photos of N4EE? I have loved Deadly Encounter since I was a kid but have seen very, very little of the hero 500 outside of the film itself.

ReverseFlight
8th Jan 2012, 07:40
Thanks 500, those clips do bring back good memories !

The Bank Job chase was real indoor flying, unlike 007's opening scene in For Your Eyes Only which I believe was "staged". I was a bit horrified to see them walking around the B47 with MR blades still turning though - these have a habit of sailing low and knocking the skull off the neck ... :zzz:

md 600 driver
8th Jan 2012, 07:49
Watched die harder last night there was a gazelle that was in a building with the blades folded seconds later it was flying out of the building but not with the correct audio (whine)

LOZZ
5th Apr 2012, 22:56
Deadly Encounter - full film on YouTube. (http://www.youtube.com/embed/0RX0Uep0fM0)

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chopjock
6th Apr 2012, 14:41
Birds Of Prey is not very realistic, pilot doesn't use seat belts or headset or hand on cyclic.
Deadly Encounter much better, still no seat belts worn though.:}

vaqueroaero
24th Nov 2012, 08:06
Sad news..............

Larry Hagman dead at 81, portrayed notorious TV villain J.R. Ewing - Yahoo! TV (http://tv.yahoo.com/news/larry-hagman-dead-81-portrayed-notorious-tv-villain-044041015.html)

Savoia
24th Nov 2012, 08:41
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YKnbKwc1a68/ULCTZ4fIegI/AAAAAAAAK60/X-QH_P1XJNQ/s510/LH.jpg

Larry Martin Hagman
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21st September 1931 - 23rd November 2012


Seen aboard Hughes 500C N4EE in 1981 during the filming of 'Deadly Encounter' - a terrible movie .. but a great man!

500 Fan
24th Nov 2012, 08:55
Another one of the greats passes on. R.I.P.

(Sav, the film wasn't that bad. OK, the script was fairly poor but the flying sequences sure made up for that!)

500 Fan.

Rotor Work
24th Nov 2012, 10:24
I had almost forgoten about Birds of Prey, If I remember correctly David Janssen sings the three little fishie's song, it was a bit hard to get out of your head once you heard it.;)
Back to the subject
RIP Larry
R W

500 Fan
11th Apr 2013, 21:36
Here is another spectacular chase scene involving the nimble 500 from a movie from 1973. This scene is really what "contour following" is all about. There is even a little tree-trimming thrown in for good measure, too. Does anyone recognise the pilot? I'd guess that he is probably too young to be Jim Gavin. Perhaps it might be Larry Kirsch?

Go to 46:45 for the flying sequence.

9oL8BH5vW80

500 Fan.

John R81
12th Apr 2013, 06:49
Loved the opening sequence in Deadly Encounters. I always wanted to start-up in the hanger and fly out..... powers that be won't let me :suspect:

However, that first departure is my "classic" 120 profile :p

KiwiBoyZac
19th Apr 2017, 23:35
While looking for photos of the star 500 (still hunting if anyone has them!) I came across a Wiki-style website about people from Santa Barbara, and on it is a page on Glenn Miller who played the "aircraft carrier" truck driver and was killed in the crash of N4EE on 04/17/82. The site (http://islapedia.com/index.php?title=MILLER,_Glenn (http://islapedia.com/index.php?title=MILLER,_Glenn)) has a news report about the crash which makes for interesting reading for any fans of the movie.