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Farrell
1st Aug 2005, 18:39
Hi there
Have posted this to the French forum.....
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=184293
Not many details yet, but I think it was a CL 215?
Farrell
sorry....did not have time to translate it
Le Monde/AFP reports the crash but not the type. My reading of the fish translation indicates a non fatal crash of a S-2 Tracker conversion earlier this week also but the translation is very dubious.
http://www.lemonde.fr/web/imprimer_element/0,40-0,50-676749,0.html
Ranger 1
1st Aug 2005, 21:32
See this site as well, condolences to all concerned.
http://www.lci.fr/news/france/0,,3235125-VU5WX0lEIDUy,00.html
cringe
1st Aug 2005, 21:34
It was a CL-415:
http://radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/International/nouvelles/200508/01/004-canadair-crash-france.shtml
armada
1st Aug 2005, 22:22
Can any person translate for the board? Merci,
Bonne Journée! :ok:
Smurfjet
2nd Aug 2005, 00:10
Quick and dirty Translation from Radio Canada here (http://radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/International/nouvelles/200508/01/004-canadair-crash-france.shtml)
The french government has grounded all its Canadair CL415 fleet following the fatal crash of the type in Corsica. The pilot and Co-pilot did not survive.
The accident occured in the mountainous region near Calvi, where the aircraft was fighting a raging forest fire since Sunday. The Canadian built aircraft crashed on a mountain side for an unknown reason. The bodies of the pilots were found by firefighters in an inhabited area.
For safety reasons the french authorities have grounded the type, and ordered inspections of the countrie's 9 CL415.
The grounding of the Canadairs comes in the middle of France's forest fire season, and merely 2 weeks after the crash of a tracker aircraft, lost during firefighting.
[Article concludes with a history of the Canadair firefighters]
Apologies for grammatical errors and typos.
Sunfish
2nd Aug 2005, 04:36
Condolences to all the families.
Eva San
2nd Aug 2005, 09:56
A quite impressive picture of the plane here (http://www.laprovence-presse.fr/une.pdf)
Condoléances aux familles.
Parapunter
2nd Aug 2005, 11:57
Strapline on the photo talks of the plane losing it's tail section, which is a bit obvious from the photo really.
greek-freak
2nd Aug 2005, 12:04
Those guys flying the Canadairs for fire-fighting are heroes of aviation.
yggorf
2nd Aug 2005, 12:09
Indeed they are heroes, risking their lives every day for the common good. We'll never thank them enough.
beaucaire
2nd Aug 2005, 13:09
....all that risky flying for less than 4000 €/month....
They would deserve a much higher salary considering the risk they take with each and every flight !!!
Adrian N
2nd Aug 2005, 13:34
French press reports today confirm that the fire was arson. Tomorrow is going to be hot and windy, so the Canadairs will be back at work.
Very sad. Let's hope they catch the arsonist.
Farrell
2nd Aug 2005, 15:55
Not sure if they will be back at work...
reports on the ground here say that Canadair fleet is grounded until further notice.
ironbutt57
3rd Aug 2005, 11:47
But when a tail comes off an airbus instant blame, but no groundings???? Condolences to the crew...yes the firebombers are definately the modern day heroes of aviation!!!
ICT_SLB
4th Aug 2005, 02:41
Sadly this was not the second but third loss of a firefighting aircraft in France in the last week. First was the S-2 on the mainland, then an Air Crane helo two days before the Canadair also in Sardinia and also combatting a possible arson fire.
One report I saw today, stated that the BEA had recovered the FDR - didn't know any waterbomber had them. Also had a long statement from the head of the Securite saying, in essence, that they looked after their aircraft very well because of the type of flying they did and that this aircraft (the 415) was relatively new. Also appeared to be some contention between witnesses whether the tail came of first or after it hit the high ground.
Having met & flown with pilots who developed some of the tactics, I appreciate the amount of skill needed for this work and the effect on this small, elite group.
My condolences to all.
philip2004uk
4th Aug 2005, 19:19
I cant beleive its happened again is this the 2nd canadair jet to crash. i guess its the worst outcome then. does anyone else think crj are dangerous. since the last one that happened i have always looked at crjs in the fact that i definately dont want to travel on one.
philip2004uk
An Airbus A340 crashed yesterday in Canada, A Boeing 747 crashed on takeoff from Asia last year, A Fedex MD11 crashed on landing in JFK.............. So somehow i guess that you need to take the boat or change your attitude....
BTW, do you know the difference between a CRJ700 and a CL415?
Mutt
Cyclic Hotline
8th Aug 2005, 14:42
Are the CL-415's still grounded in France? Haven't read anything more about this story.
Farrell
9th Aug 2005, 11:55
Yes were still grounded on Saturday afternoon. I had just come from Camp Rafalli in Calvi.
Supposedly grounding will be lifted at 0600 Monday.
(Just heard now that it will be towards the end of the week)
Farrell
30th Aug 2005, 15:39
Latest news is that the autopsy results on the bodies of both pilots found no factors contributing to the crash and that both pilots were in good health.
The Accident Investigation Team also stated that they are now foccussing their attention on the manouver that was made just prior to the aircraft dropping water - but stated that they are now almost certain that there were no technical problems with the aircraft.
(Source: France 3 News Channel)