easyJet withdrawal from Ireland

[no, no, no]

Looking at their website and it is not showing in their timetable, and is not available to book. None of LGW to Knock, Cork or Shannon.

Every other destination is.

Rang them a few weeks ago and they said it may not be on yet but all routes will be loaded by the end of the month?????

Have they lost to Ryanair in one of the most brave/stupid (delete as appropriate) moves since their launch????

Does anyone know anything about this, if they are still going to fly?

Cheers

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Have read that London Gatwick to Cork, Knock and Shannon will end by the end of October.
STN to GVA from Dec 15 twice daily.

[Sheikh_Yerbootee]

The flights will be operating, just late loading into the system. There is still some juggling of lgw based a/c going on.

Sheikh it baby, sheikh it real good

[FlyCorkInternational]

Unfortunately, Easyjet has decided to withdraw from ORK, NOC, SNN on 25 October.

[TheOddOne]

I've just booked ORK-LGW for Saturday 29 Oct 2005 and my booking was accepted.

What gives?

Cheers,

The Odd One

[Powerjet1]

Nothing though, from sunday 30 Oct onwards, start of winter t/t.

[TheOddOne]

Nothing though, from sunday 30 Oct onwards, start of winter t/t.

Yes, quite, so it makes the 25/10 date seem a bit bogus...

TOO

[The_Bean_Counter]

31.07.2005



easyJet (U2/London Luton) will launch twice daily A319-100 service from London Stansted to Geneva on December 15. It will however give up its routes from London Gatwick to Cork, Knock and Shannon by the end of October. easyJet is reportedly considering adding new routes from Geneva to Bournemouth and Edinburgh.

[Sheikh_Yerbootee]

I wonder how Ch aviation knows more about easyjet's planned routes than the actual company itself.... I know its a rumours page but really, dont believe everything you see written down

Sheikh it baby, Sheikh it real good

[Buster the Bear]

easyJet have well and truly had thier bottoms slapped over the Irish routes. MOL must be wetting himself with laughter if this turns out to be true!

The aviation world is certainly full of bad decisions, easyJet seemed to have added to this! Now I wonder if they had launched Cork and Knock from Luton, would they have worked for them better?

As Luton will not be getting the Bus until 2007, I doubt if there will much extra capacity added?

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[neidin]

I spoke with EasyJet this morning and there is no definite decision on Ireland yet. It is all in the air and they are loath to dump Ireland as it could put further pressure on their falling share price.

They are thinking of starting some EURO services from ORK. Or possibly KIR where they have a very attractive deal lined up. NOC-LGW may stay.

ORK & SNN to LGW may revert to one or two daily services ex KERRY where they are hooking up with the new regional bus terminal.

They told me direct they are not definitely out of Ireland. All in the air!

[05Prius]

The Irish routes will be open for booking by early next week.

neidin:

Your credibility on this issue is zero. KIR rumours are quite simply BS.

[neidin]

Ha, ha. Money talks - Orange is just one of the colours OO5. Just one - Green talks at Luton as well you know. Shame when the loop is not a full circle.

[DW11]

I'm baffled as to how a new regional bus terminal at Farranfore is going to change anything. There's already a stack of buses from Cork to Farranfore every day, on their way to Tralee. Funnily enough most of the passengers from Cork don't get off at Farranfore. Maybe they need to be enlightened and a shiny new bus terminal will entice them in. Certainly seems to have worked for Athlone, though the selection of flights from Abbeyshrule still leaves a bit to be desired.

[HotAir]

nedin
EasyJet would not be talking to you about their plans for Ireland
so stop making up S**t

[MarkD]

DW11

Tralee-Cork services don't pass the airport. Services from Limerick, on the other hand, do list it as a request stop.

[neidin]

Anyone who knows the senior management people at EasyJet pick up the phone tomorrow and you can hear the tales of fun and games being played by the Greek Side who are kicking out anyone who disagrees with them - and the "professionals" who are trying to cull loss making routes.

Trail the resignations of senior Directors and speak with very senior management and you will then know what is happening.

Remember Stelios still owns 40% of EasyJet and with the shares losing 8.5% last week - the value of his shares dropped in 4 days last week by GBP 30.4 million.

Now if EasyJet drop the Irish routes they will get an unmerciful kicking in the papers, markets, share analysts and stock market. The markets believe there is only room for one LCC in Europe - they may be wrong - but that is what they believe. If there were lots of "Ryanair beats EasyJet" headlines - that would force the share price still lower. It was up almost 100% on the year until last week. Every 1% drop in the share price costs Stelios GBP 3.6 million.

So - I think EasyJet will continue a massively expensive fares battle in Ireland with Ryanair - and are definitely looking for expansion moves in Ireland. If they lose GBP 10 million in Ireland in 2005 well that is still only a 3% drop in the value of Stelio's shares. If Ryanair are seen to win the war in Ireland - well EasyJet's share price over the following month could be off 15-30%.

Don't be silly and think that publicly quoted stock exchange companies follow rational paths. It is generally a case of perception being reality. Again it is better for Stelios to lose GBP 10 - GBP 30 million in Ireland over next fews years than to chop the Irish routes and see a 3-10% drop in their share price.

I for one have voted with my wallet as anyone who follows my posts on this topic can see. Bet against EasyJet over the last few weeks and you could have made a tidy sum. Follow the news flow good and bad and you can see the share price fluctuate.

The bigger game is that Ryanair is trying to drive EasyJet into the ground and then snap up what routes they can overnight. That is Ryanair's long term goal - I do not joke on that. EasyJet is very vulnerable due to the huge overhang of shares that Stelios owns and his perception in the City as being quirky. Vulnerable to a takeover - or other implosion - that is the nature of airlines.

Remember how Virgin had to leave the markets some time back.

[840]

Flights are now bookable on the website. Cork has a frequency increase to 3x daily on weekdays and 2x daily on weekends. Shannon and Knock are 1x daily all week. Is that a reduction in service for Shannon?

Edit: And then I noticed something strange. They show up if you select London (All Airports), but not if you select London Gatwick where it gets blocked by a Javascript Pop-Up.

[DW11]

MarkD,

The 40A goes from Cork to Tralee through Farranfore on an almost hourly basis. God knows, I've been stuck behind them often enough.

[EI-MICK]

hourly?? bus eireann?? dont think these match up,more like weekly!!!

[eastjimmy]

well if easy jet want to battle for ireland they are very welcome to set up a mini base in cork. we are all aware of ryanair policy for cork mol doesnt give a hoot about the place so it would be great to see easyjet in cork. dispite the apperent tormoil on the stock exchange, to jo public its a recognisable brand. they could easily do the gatwick thing x3 daily and also a luton run or two then have a go at their european routes ex cork. hell while they are at it why not try an early and late cork dublin flight. that market is there for milking. no disrespect to the re boys..

[MarkD]

DW11 - it goes on the N22 through the village but NOT past the airport on N23. I have also driven that road enough, and thus says Bus Eireann's website to boot.

To connect to Tralee-Cork you need to hoof it or connect using the Limerick bus or the local shuttle to Killarney which stops in Farranfore.

[DW11]

Mark,

First of all, at no point did I say that the bus stopped at the airport. I said that the bus stops in Farranfore (which is a whole half mile from the terminal).

What I did say was that there is already a near hourly service from Cork to Farranfore, which takes two hours and which bugger all people use to catch flights.

Now I'm sure that once Neidin's regional bus hub is built at Farranfore, Bus Eireann can manage to divert the hourly bus by a whole half mile. I'm also sure that there will still be bugger all people getting a bus from Cork to Farranfore to catch flights.

[Tom the Tenor]

What is it with discussing CIE bus timetables? Is this some kind of Flann O'Brien, At swim two birds fantasy?

easyJet committing to Cork Airport with three daily flights from Gatwick is the best shot in the arm Cork Airport has ever had, in my opinion.

The people in charge at Cork Airport must be congratulated for their work on this matter so it is now time to say well done to the Cork Airport management. You may have some extra oats in your nose bags tonight!

:D

[EI-MICK]

lol tom!! ok enough of Coras Iompar hEireann timetables,CIE is split anyway!!

Tom wots the deal with the extra arann flight to lorient??

[DW11]

Tom,

As buses are such a key part of operations at Cork, I'm suprised at your comments. I'm sure many Easyjet passengers will enjoy the bus ride from Shannon to Cork this winter.

[MarkD]

Interesting that there's no trace of Neidin's bus terminal on google or on BE's website or on Kerry Airport's. In fact, BE on their main site make reference to four airport services, none of which are Kerry! (SNN/NOC/ORK/DUB)

Wishful thinking? Not the first time for that boy I think.

[Tom the Tenor]

No idea. Good luck to RE with Lorient. However, the RYR from SNN to NTE is a hard one to follow and they may take from Cork? No good reason why Cork did not have a a flight to Nantes or Brest this summer.

However, RE, with just a x2/7 capacity to Lorient should still do quite well.

Sure thing, DW11, a bigger case now more than ever before for CATIII ILS to be installed at Cork Airport. No more stupid excuses.

CATIII for Cork Airport now!

[neidin]

Copy of the Kerry Airport release from Kerryman newspaper 2 June is below. Also spoke with the big fat guy at kerry Airport - Bellew today who confirmed it is underway. Bus Eireann told him reckon at times of flight operations there will be hourly service to Cork, Limerick, Tralee and Killarney.

Knock will get a similar service next year as well.

Dermot from LCY told me he saw it starting construction last week -

NEWS RELEASE
30 May 2005

Kerry Airport Lodges Planning to Build Public Transport Terminal

Farranfore, 30 May, Kerry Airport confirmed today that they are to apply for planning for a EURO €750,000 public transport terminal. If planning is approved the facility will commence construction in September 2005 for completion in early 2006.

The main features of the facility will include :-
• A secure defined entrance within the airport grounds for coaches.
• A restricted parking area for six large coaches.
• A very large turning circle for coaches separate to normal public traffic.
• A covered waiting area / shelter.
• 90 additional car park spaces.

The location of the proposed facility will be directly across from the existing airport terminal and require redevelopment of the existing small front car park.

The development follows three years of consultation with Bus Eireann who wish to provide additional service at Kerry Airport to link in with their extensive County and National route network. Kerry Airport has also consulted with Kerry County Council Roads Dept. and other relevant authorities.

The main purpose of the work is to provide significant additional long term public transport from Kerry Airport and to allow group, conference and incentive operators to have easy access for their passengers.

Kerry Airport believes that in the longer term this development will lead to additional new passenger traffic and improve uptake of public transport.

[peterbellew]

My first time on this board - a colleague pointed out to me some comments on my size and weight by a neidin! I am the Bellew at Kerry he refers to in his last post.

Well maybe I should take to the Gym to keep old Aer Lingus hacks happy.

Anyway - for clarity - Kerry is building a regional bus park which will have a good coverage of private and public bus services across the South West and to Cork, Limerick and Dublin. It should open just after Xmas 05.

Kerry replaced all security systems, ILS etc.. over last 24 months. and a large but low cost new arrivals/departures/ terminal is in planning. Airport is happy with great services by Ryanair and Aer Arann.

Best of luck to ORK,SNN and NOC with EasyJet. Low fares are good for everyone.

Neidin - Put your money where mouth is and sell EasyJet short tomorrow ahead of Friday results - then I will sign up for WeightWatchers.

Peter

[EI-MICK]

neidin,

u first of all have dinner with aer lingus management or so you say...

you were then talking to easy jet on the phone,who told you plans...

you spoke with the man in kerry....

whose next on your high profile list??

I think MOL might want to go for a drink tonight to discuss his plans so you can stir it up somewhere.

[DW11]

So in summary:

Kerry Airport are improving facilities at the airport including coach and car parking.

Bus Eireann will use the new facilities, so that nobody has to walk the half mile from the village anymore.

cheers for the info Peter.

Don't suppose there's much hope of the ILS going to CAT3. Think of all the diversions you could rob off Shannon.

[MarkD]

KIR get enough diversions from ORK as it is :(

Have to put my hands up and apologise on the bus terminal thing - the Kingdom has the same press release but I can't find it on the Kerry Airport w/site as they don't seem to archive them. Seemed funny that BE and KA weren't mentioning it but this is Ireland after all!

[JoeSchmoe]

EZY now have LGW-Ireland on sale

SNN reduced from 2 to 1 daily
ORK increased from 2 to 3 daily
NOC unchanged at 1 daily

note FR have increased each of NOC and SNN to 2 daily from winter

[dwlpl]

note FR have increased each of NOC and SNN to 2 daily from winter

I see that one of the flights originates ex Knock and flies Knock/Gatwick/Knock.

Anyone with ideas from where it flies to Knock in the first place (from LPL?)?

[no, no, no]

dwlpl - what are you on about - on weekdays the flight arrives in NOC at 13:05 and departs again at 13:25 - on Sundays it is 15:30/15:50 - not the way you mentioned.

And I thought that easyJet always operated with 3 ORK, and only 1 SNN (I know for sure only one SNN as I thought it was daft at the time and still do!!!!).

So the share risk has prevented them from coming off. MOL must be very happy - a win-win situation for them really!!!

be interesting to see if they bring them back for summer 2006!!!

[840]

No. He's right...

FR1294 12:40 Depart Knock (NOC) 14:10 Arrive London Gatwick (LGW)

FR1295 14:40 Depart London Gatwick (LGW) 16:05 Arrive Knock (NOC)

I had assumed Stansted, but it doesn't fit in with the timings for the flight from there.

[dwlpl]

no, no, no you could have done a bit of `research` before posting, have you now found the times and confirmed that I was correct?

Thanks to 840 for confirmation.

[no, no, no]

apologies -I read it quick and assumed you were talking about easyJet not FR - it was easyJets times I looked at.

So I did research, but not the right bit. A+ for effort, E for the outcome!!!