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Seat1APlease
28th Jul 2005, 09:36
Following the collapse of EUjet there are suggestions in today's papers of a new levy to be charged on every UK passenger to provide a fund to compensate those who lose money following an airline collapse.

The majority of UK airlines are reasonably well run and soundly financed but there are also those who charge unrealistically low fares and teeter on the brink of profit and loss.

It seems very unfair to expect passengers who are paying a small premium to travel on the better run carriers to have to fork out to protect those who book with "Shoestring Airlines" to get the lowest possible fare.

Would it not be better to insist that each airline is either bonded by depositing a cash sum or by taking out an insurance policy to cover compensation in the event of their collapse. This would have to be reflected in their ticket price, but it would avoid having the rest of the industry subsidising those who seem determined to slash terms and conditions to offer even lower prices and destabilise the whole industry in the process.

FlapsOne
28th Jul 2005, 09:41
What was that often used phrase about not believing everything you read in a newspaper??????????????????????

Often pax book 'deals' without knowing who the actual flight is with.

oliversarmy
28th Jul 2005, 11:01
This levy is what Tour Opertors in the UK have already been funding for many years, an ATOL.

The mockery of the whole thing is that if these EuJet passengers were overseas with a UK based tour operator the ATOL fund would have provided funds to repatriate them.

This is the first failure of a "low cost carrier" and highlights the risk to the public, the government is currently looking at a revised ATOL scheme which would mean Tour Operators and airlines all paying a levy of something in the region of £1 or £2 per passenger, this would resolve the currently unfair system whereby a low cost carrier doesnt need the ATOL.

OA

WHBM
28th Jul 2005, 14:07
In the UK Tiny Computers (also trading as Time Computers), a high street computer retailer, went out of business on the same day as EUJet.

There seems to be no call at all in the press for all computer sales to have a new levy added to them to fund those who have lost deposits or downpayments, or other aspects. So why does aviation constantly get picked off for yet another levy, the bulk of which will doubtless be skimmed off by those "administering" the scheme.

It is true that when there is any aviation bankruptcy the bulk of those affected seem not to be business or even regular travellers, but those only interested in getting transport at the absolute minimum price. Like that ever since Court Line days.

MarkD
28th Jul 2005, 15:34
How many people actually lost money though, since most people are paying by CC over the phone or online and will get refunds from the CC company?

FormerFlyer
28th Jul 2005, 17:59
So long as they paid by credit card and the transaction value was a min of £100 then they have protection that way.

No protection if they used a debit card.

cheers ;)
FF

ATNotts
29th Jul 2005, 13:00
This idea has been rumbling on for a while now, and the EU Jet debacle has brought it back to the fore.

I agree that if you're going to levy the airline industry, then why not bonds for MFI, PC World, Harrods etc etc. All sectors of industry dealing with Joe Public are capable of collapse, and with the price of airtickets these days, the exposure risk when buying furniture or electronics is far greater.

Another thing puzzles me. Sure, you could impose a bonding requirement on a British registered airline, but Ryanair are Irish, and would therefore be exempt, as would Germanwings, Air Berling, Sky Europe, and the rest of them.

It would surely have to be minimum an EU piece of legislation - and we all know how much Britain detests them!

connection fee
1st Aug 2005, 09:04
Who was behind EU Jet?

oliversarmy
4th Aug 2005, 11:48
"Who was behind EU Jet?"

Thats the problem i dont think anyone was !

Boss Raptor
5th Aug 2005, 21:01
I would like to point out that EUJET was actually an Irish company and an Irish airline regulated by the Irish authorities but with largest operating base in the UK - allowed to inhabit (base/operate) on our shores by the EU (sadly, just like Ryanair at STN and PIK) and not just an EU carrier operating into UK like Air Berlin or Sky Europe - so just how does this (like Ryanair) fit into the scheme of things for this fund?

So UK pax (and airlines) are to be charged to cover the apparent differences in interpretation (inadequecies) of other EU states to effectively invoke Economic Regulation and supervision on their carriers 'camping out' in the UK (great...!)