What's going on at EuroCeltic?

[OLNEY 1 BRAVO]

I understand that EuroCeltic had problems with one of their Friendships over a week ago leading them to have to sub-charter to cover their Liverpool - Luton service. However there have been no flights at all on this route since 6th January.

Furthermore, if you try to book a flight on their Website for next week or the following week, the response is "no flights".

Has the route been dropped?

[Zeppelin]

Did this route for them before xmas as a sub charter when their aircraft was in for a check. Loads then were pretty poor.
Believe this route was dropped by easy,and they were hoping to pick up on the back of them

[euroboy]

Liverpool-London route. Been attempted by many and all given up. Since 87-Present
Manx
British Midland
VLM
EasyJet
Euroceltic?

On paper it looks like a possible route, but MAN has stronger links with BA and bmi. bmi found the MAN-LHR slow to take off, as BA had long established customer base.
And to be honest if BM could not get Liverpool-Heathrow to work, then to Luton has no chance.

[ROLLER STAMP]

ROUTE HAS NOT BEEN DROPPED.THE AIRCRAFT IS ON C CHECK PLUS ENGINE CHANGE.WE ARE WAITING FOR THE PAINT TO DRY THEN IT WILL BE BACK ON THE LIVERPOOL ROUTE.

[1wing]

Modern paints dry quite quickly these days. Guess you have not got them yet. Don't wait too long...

[rentaghost]

From what i'd heard unlikely to re-start.

[Buster the Bear]

No advertising at the Luton end, so how can folk know the route exists again?

I wonder if the route will start from Gatwick with some of the easyBoeings or easyBuses on order?

I flew the route several times from Luton with easyJet and the loads were always excellent!

Now time to get my keeper to paint my cage orange. easyBear, Bedfordshire's greatest tourist attraction!

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[birminghamgiraffe]

euroceltic f27 (g-ecat i believe) was in the jea hangar at EXT this week, having some big check

[cabin lad]

Is everything alright with Euroceltic, do you think they are in a strong position-are they likely to finish?

[Buster the Bear]

Just been told that one of the Fokkers is having a planned double engine change at Exeter and should be flying soon.

[no sig]

That's good news Roller Stamp, we're missing you already.

[VIKING9]

Whilst on the subject of Euroceltic, what are the chances of them going jet in the foreseable future? I know WAT runway is not long enough to support anything major, but do they have any other destinations up their sleeves that would (maybe) warrant jet service. Lets face it, a F27 (although cheap)is long in the tooth now compared with say Barbie Jets or BAe's flying hairdryers (nee 146)...

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[Buster the Bear]

Were looking at advancing to the 146 pre 9/11/01.

Hope to see the Fokker on the Olney 1 Bravo again shortly then, a darn site quieter over my cage than the RYR331 at 0710 every morning, (Then 1010, 1310, 1610, 1910 departures!).

Bears need to sleep!

Darts, I love darts! (Rolls Royce ones).

[airbourne]

Looks like there doing what most airlines are doing at the moment, that is keeping a low profile. Whats the F27 costing them? is that leased from BAC or is it owned? If the loads were poor pre xmas on the LPL - LTN route, whats it gonna be like post xmas? As they say, only time will tell. Lets hope we dont have another airline go belly up this year.

[swede-basher]

went past EXT this afternoon (Sunday) and it appears the F27 is parked at the end of the disused (13/31?) along with half a dozen or so 146's. (ex Malmo and NJI)

[ROLLER STAMP]

If you take a closer look at the aircraft you will notice one of the engines missing.The c check was completed and the aircraft is awaiting a replacement engine,there was no room in the hangar so it was parked outside.As for the 146,s they belong to bae & are still being maintained under a storage program.Hopefully the F27 will beback in service soon. <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

[Tarek Nor]

The 2 F27's are owned by Euroceltic. GECAT has
been in EXT for a C check and is now waiting
for a new engine to arrive before it returns
to service. <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

[Standing Hampton]

Unable to book the route from Liverpool to Luton on their web site.....Very strange!

No matter what dates to select, it tells you no flights available. Really not very helpful!

[MarkD]

RTE Teletext/Business website reports possible Euroceltic takeover by investors - link here:

<a href="http://www.onbusiness.ie/2002/0114/euroceltic.html" target="_blank">OnBusiness.ie</a>

[ROLLER STAMP]

Why is it in the uk that the workforce have to find out about their jobs through the local press? <img src="mad.gif" border="0"> this is news to all of us!

[cabin lad]

This is a disgrace. Euroceltic should make a statement to their staff and let them know what's happening. <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

[Picasso]

ROLLER STAMP, Cant blame you for being pissed off
AFAIK none of these "press releases" came from
Euroceltic or the new owners as usual someone
leaked information to the press for who knows
what gain...

&gt;The full details of the deal have not yet been
&gt;finalised but a statement from the consortium is &gt;expected this week. It is understood to have put &gt;the deal together as part of a package for the
&gt;airline.


Information is not ready to be given out thats
why staff have not been informed yet the
above is correct "the deal has not been
finalised".

I think some signs were there for a while that ECY
were in trouble....

1/ Bad loads on LTN - LPL
2/ WAT timetable effected due to LPL route
Morning departure later - Evening arrival
earlier - Not good for business traveller.
3/ No advertising at WAT LTN or LPL
4/ Cost of ATP on LTN-LPL route
5/ Cost of Scotairways on LTN-LPL route
6/ Cost of engine on GECAH and now GECAT
7/ Cheap fares... They may as well paid the
passengers.
8/ And other embarrisments I will not say here ...


Now that the press have information im sure that
all will become clear sooner than later.

Ans both you and I will be involved in a better
ECY.

Regds

Pic

[JB007]

Even though I was only with ECY for a short time, I enjoyed every bit - a good little operation with very very good staff that as usual get stuffed through very bad management...

Tarek Nor - are you PPRuNing from Thailand ?

Best of luck to all in Halcyon House!

[Gentle Giant]

Comes back to the old, old story of inexperienced management thinking it can run an airline.

The mistakes made were obvious to anyone who has been in the business for more than five minutes.

[JB007]

Just heard present owner sold out to an Irish Shipping chap....

[Tarek Nor]

Hi

JB yep still here in the land of smiles. Looks
like I might get to stay a bit longer
<img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[cabin lad]

Anymore info on what's happening? They are not very quick to tell the staff what's happening.