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FlyingForFun
8th Jul 2005, 12:16
According to AIC 3/2004 (White 92), one option for keeping an SSEA rating on an NPPL valid is by experience, and the pilot must, amongst other things:have completed an instructional flight of at least 1 hour in the preceding 24 monthsRegarding that 1 hour flight with an instructor: Can any test be substituted, in the same way as any test can be substituted for the hour's flight with an instructor for meeting the experience requirements for a JAR SEP(A) rating?
If so, what would happen in the scenario where a JAR PPL holder has converted his license to an NPPL? His license ratings page clearly shows the date of the "test" being the date on which his NPPL was issued, suggesting that this would count as his flight with an instructor (examiner). However, he actually made no flight with an examiner on this date - the only thing which happened on that date was a paperwork exercise.Thanks,

FFF
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Whopity
8th Jul 2005, 21:24
The AIC gives the revalidation requirements. If its not listed you can't count it.

The NPPL should not have a date of test if issued on the basis of a UK PPL!

In order for a NPPL to be valid, you must have 6 hours experience in the past 12 months, or have passed a test with an examiner in the last 12 months. These are shown in the log book. If revalidating by experience, you must have a flight with an instructor in the past 24 months. If these options are not met the licence is not valid.

BEagle
9th Jul 2005, 07:27
Hopefully all these requirements will be tidied up when the draft ANO changes become law - and things will become much simpler!

FlyingForFun
10th Jul 2005, 21:08
Thanks, guys.

Whopity, if a pilot were to have a test with an examiner which lasted for an hour or more, would that count for 24 months for the purposes of maintaining currency? After all, an examiner must be an instructor too (I think?), so it is therefore an hour-long flight with an instructor.....

Beagle, when the draft changes become law, will anything that we're discussing in this thread change? Or will it just be clarified?

Thanks again for your help.

FFF
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Whopity
10th Jul 2005, 23:13
FFF

A test is valid for 12 months for currency, assuming no logged flying experience. When combined with the 6 hours flying experience required in the last 12 months, it is valid as the flight with an instructor for 24 months.

BEagle
11th Jul 2005, 06:44
Quite a lot will change - mainly the 'rolling currency' nonsense and there will be a clear "Do this by then to revalidate" date.

Also a lot of benefit to those holding multiple NPPL Class ratings - if everything goes the way we anticipate.

FlyingForFun
11th Jul 2005, 14:19
Thanks to both of you for the information.

FFF
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