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Ontariotech
25th Jun 2005, 20:41
Interesting news bit on the dedication of Canadian Forces personel. First ever Herc to reach 45'000 hrs airframe time.

http://www.intelligencer.ca/webapp/sitepages/content.asp?contentID=115008&catname=Local+News

Canada really needs to spend some more dough on it's armed forces, instead of flushing money down the loo on sponsership scandels and human resources boodogles.

giveitsome
27th Jun 2005, 11:09
Agree with you completely OntarioTech.

Few years ago I looked at a sea change by investigating the likelihood of going to Canada to seek out some fresh air and lifestyle and an opportunity for my family to live in another country. Unfortunately when I enquired and did the sums I realised that I would be going backwards financially and flying mchines that were starting to get long in the tooth to be polite to the CAF. The only folks that are worse off in the pay and conditions department is the RNZAF, poor bastards get paid saw dust and jam sandwhiches to fly.

Expensive exercise training Mil aircrew, even more expensive trying to stock the shelves once the boys have done the bolt due to mediocre pay and conditions and only war birds to fly.

The CAF needs to not only spend $$$$ on procurement, but make sure they address the issue of retention by paying the appropriate $$$$ to aircrew aswell.

My sea change option no longer includes Canada.

Blue Skies.

Give It Some.



:ok:

MarkD
27th Jun 2005, 19:19
Well the new Chief is well in with Martin and apparently more shekels are on the way, what with the S-92 order and what not. However now that Martin has to find 0.7% of GDP to avoid another b0llocking from Geldof no doubt it will all be clawed back.

saudipc-9
28th Jun 2005, 18:56
Well since I got back into the CF last year I have to say that I have seen some good changes and some bad. Pay has gone up quite a bit from when I left. I'm now close to $100,000 and I don't think that the RNZAF is the only air force worse off than that. I think we do well as far as pay is concerned. Airframe wise yes we have a very long way to go in order to update and sustain. However, I don't believe that we are alone in that regard.
I'm very glad that I got back in and intend to stay for a while.

KENNYR
28th Jun 2005, 19:18
Yes, but your $100,000 is only worth about £40,000..........I think a Corporal pilot makes that over here.:ok: ;)

giveitsome
29th Jun 2005, 00:16
Hey Saudi I noticed that you have the PC9 in your handle,

If your bag of s - - t got bigger than your bag of gold it is no wonder you are back in the Mil and $$$ is not probably that important to you right now, getting the sand out of your eyes and ears, getting your sense of humour back and being able to surf porn without getting your tounge or your left hand cut off probably is. The same reasons that led you leave the first time will probably sneak up on you again.

Did you teach the tea towel heads to roll out wings level count to 5 before attempting the next sequence? Every one else did.



:E

GIS

tarbaby
30th Jun 2005, 10:42
$CDN100,000 converts to huge amounts NZ. I'll take!!

henry crun
30th Jun 2005, 21:55
tarbaby: Obviously your definition of huge is different to mine.

I would call an extra $16,500 modest in relation to the sum in question.

SASless
30th Jun 2005, 22:11
Now just who is the CDF gonna defend against? Laplanders that stray across a bunch of ice?

MarkD
1st Jul 2005, 01:59
Well, afterCF detachments went into the arctic (at substantial hazard) because some Danes started sticking up flags where they shouldn't, SASless is not so far from the truth! The receding icecap opening the northern passage to shipping is becoming a prize worth staking out.

saudipc-9
4th Jul 2005, 19:10
KennyR,
True might be only 40'000 quid however, I'm only paying .85 cents a litre for gas and I'm also not paying 250'000 quid for a shoebox of a house:p

GIS,
Ahhhhh life after Saudi:ok: It's amazing when at Ops meetings all the other guys are bitching about things but I sit there with a dreamy smile on my face thinking-"Yes this is less than ideal but at least I'm not in Saudi anymore!"
I don't regret the time I spent there at all but I'm damn glad to be back in the CF problems or not.

Cheers
SPC-9

dopeonarope
4th Jul 2005, 21:41
SASLESS.... who are we defending our selves against.

Perhaps our cousins to the south! Or that province East of Ontario ;) Some deterrent is better than no deterent, eh? Laplanders are on another continent!