Woomerii's Comment.

[prospector]

Very good comments on why's and wherefor's.

Certainly answered my request in a concise and balanced manner, Thankyou.

Prospector

[Onewordanswer]

There's that dry wit again......nice one:ok:

[jack red]

Just like the coache's half time "spray" in the good old days !:ooh:

[Kaptin M]

So let's see.
It's NOW okay to identify posters by their initials (presumably names must also be okay), and other uniquely identifying traits. To maintain a continued, concerted harassment - even on threads where there is no relevance in raising the harassed's name.
And to make DIRECT, unsubstantiated, false allegations.
But to then have it passed off with a comment by the moderator(s) along the lines of, "If your ego is that precious that it needs..........., then might we suggest that PPRuNe is a hazardous place for it to be exercised."

I entered PPRuNe early in the peace ( :D ). In FACT it wasn't so peaceful then - a spade was called a spade - and Danny allowed "things" to run their natural course.
There was no Woomera.
There was, simply, a [email protected]
.......and there were no legal threats.
Things blew up - and blew over.

IMHO, Woomera (ii), have added some confusion to the scene, by their INconsistency.
I do not want to enter into the "1989 compendium of nouns" - in spite of the pendulum decisions by the varying Woomerii, that allow it in one swing, and then obliterate any post that mentions "that" word shortly thereafter.
The only consistancy, has been the INconsistancy! (You aren't Japanese, perchance??!!).

From its inception, it has appeared to me, that the ONLY reason for the existence of Flying Ninja, was to DIRECTLY attack me as an individual, vs a nom de plume.
Please do a "search" on his posts to verify.

The process of establishing his true identity might well take some time (and $$'s - which will be passed on).
'"Like a thief in the night", he is happy to hide in his cesspool of deceit and secrecy, whilst making false, libellous accusations against victims whose personal details he revels in publishing.

Simply put, PERSONAL attacks are just not on - they NEVER have been. Even when Danny ran the show single-handedly, as a charter pilot on "Fraggle Rock", flying with a blanket to keep warm.
Personally, I know very, very, very few of the nom de plumes here.
Imo, the PERSON is not important.
His/her presentation, and the way in which it is presented (this is, after all A PROFESSIONAL pilots' forum), IS!

If there is a change in the "established values", then let us all know, Woomerii. So that we can ALL play by the SAME rules. :ok:

[Wizofoz]

Kap,

If you make an insulting statement about Jews, you have PERSONALLY insulted and defamed all Jews individualy.

If you state that ALL members of a particular group have particular characteristics that are negative and defamatory, you have defamed every member of that group PERSONALLY.

Just how far do you want the lid of Pandorras Box opened?

[Omaha]

My Gawd

This place is soooo entertaining, (I doubt even Rotoroa or White Island is so volcanic & erupturous), it's amazing I didn't discover it before. :uhoh:

Now Kaptin, that it was recently stated there was a photo of you at Hanmer Springs I've had a divil of a time just locating it. Now the only time I've ever seen your picture before on PPRuNe was when you were stripped to the waist & me being a woman & all (pruddish though some may assume I might be), well I wasn't really concentrating on your face, handsome though it may be. ;)

But may I say Kaptin much to my surprise you have the look of the exotic about you, could it be a hint of Oriental or Maori, maybe even Aborigini? :E More likely one of the first two, would I be right, how very interesting? :D

Personally, I know very, very, very few of the nom de plumes here.
Well, you blinking well know mine & I still don't even know YOUR first name yet. :*

Now don't let them get to you mate, just ignore them & don't start sueing me whatever you do cause I've had enough legal action been taken against me for the last couple of years & all I've left is the underwear I'm typing in. :O

Don't forget to let me know can you make Hanmer Springs around the 19th December, I'll know my definite itinerary soon. Looks like we've alot to talk about.

Chin up & try to put the hurt & past behind you. Okay!

H :)

Wizofoz

I have personally seen Kaptin M stand up against someone who made defamous posts on PPRuNe re: Jews & demand an apology. What are you talking about? :confused:

P.S. Kaptin, your kids are so cute. :)

[Wizofoz]

Omaha,

Try looking up the word ANALOGY and then get back to me...:rolleyes:

[Omaha]

I could think of a hundred & one better analogy's & ways of putting your point across than that mate without resulting to tactless, false cr@p. I did guess that it may be what you were about in a peculiar very round about way.

The way you go on you'd swear Kaptin M was some kind of raving anti-semitic which I can assure you from reading his posts, he's not!

What are you going to accuse him falsely of next, seems like he's open season.

Try to come up with some better comparisons oh sorry "analogys" in future for your own sake. :rolleyes:

[scrubed]

Actually it is "analogies".

Or did you mean "analagous"???

[Wizofoz]

I could think of a hundred & one better analogy's

OK, defame all CIRCUS CLOWNS and you defame each CIRCUS CLOWN.... Happy now?? Do Circus Clowns have fewer rights than Jewish people?


What are you going to accuse him falsely of next

Would you care to point out where, in the above post, I have accused the Kap of anything? I presented two hypothetical senarios, showing that defaming a particuar group in general has the same effect as defaming an individual in that group personally. Your rather hysterical if inarticulate reply actually serves to make my point.

it's amazing I didn't discover it before.

Perhaps if you HAD come across it earlier, including the several pages of previous discusstion which have been deleated, you would be more qualified to comment.

Try to come up with some better comparisons oh sorry "analogys" in future for your own sake.

Or else what?

[Kaptin M]

Thank you again for your kind words, and support, Omaha.
Yes, occasionally this place gets hotter than Jet Blast (to the casual observer). Why even scrubed is here, to keep a check on everyones' punkchewashun and spieling!
As far as I'm aware, both parents were Caucasian (Anglo-saxon)...as far as I'm aware. Do you have any Aussie in you?

Wiz, the insults from your mate - I presume you know him - were directed solely at me eg. "You are xxxxx", not "I think.." nor "in my opinion", and over a long period of time, after making sure he had positively established my true identity.
"The publication of defamatory matter is an actionable wrong at common law or by statute, the purpose of which is to vindicate and protect the reputation of the person defamed. For the loss of reputation defamation is ordinarily the only action. Where a person’s reputation is injured by such a defamatory publication, the law in all jurisdictions provides a remedy in the form of damages or, more rarely, by way of injunctive relief.
The common law distinguishes between libel, where the defamatory statement is made in writing or some other permanent form, and slander, where it is communicated orally or in some other transient form.2 In an action for libel, the law presumes that damage will result from the very act of publication."

You are referring to cases that may involve a class action suit.

[Wizofoz]

Kap,

If you were to publish defamatory comments about a group of which I am a member, you damage my reputation and I, as an individual, would have a cause of action, as would every other member of that group. Whether individual members of said group wished to take out a class action, or proceed with individual claims , would be up to them not you.

I would also point out that the action of a moderator removing personal insults from your posts after publication would not protect you. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it stays out.

Don't get me wrong, I have absolutley no intention of pursuing you or anyone for comments made about me or any group I'm involved with, but if I were you I would seriously ask myself whether my conduct had been so blemish free as to not leave myself open should legal action be instigated.

I have no idea who Flying Ninja is, and I don't agree with his methods. I would just ask you to consider that your aggressive, insulting, condesending and often contradictory style taken against people you disagree with or who disagree with you (I saw an exchange today regarding a 767s nosewheel in which you launched into someone for no justifiable reason as an example) leads to resentment and extreme dislike. To get prissy and litigious when someone exceeds YOUR boundaries is, to my mind, a smidge hypocritical.

[Onewordanswer]

This really is tremendously entertaining.....next please.....:}

[Raw Data]

Isn't it? And I have absolutely no idea what it is all about.... :p

[Frank Burden]

To be Frank, neither do I!!!

[Raw Data]

Are you actually allowed to say that word here...??? :}

[Onewordanswer]

Geez all the youth took the sting outta the BS..................wow how unusual!:E

[scrubed]

Do you have to be smoking crack to understand what you old fossils are all on about...??? :confused:

[Pinky the pilot]

I think that the Hon. Hercules Grtpype-Thynne said it best.
"It's all rather confusing really!":confused:

You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.

[Raw Data]

Nah you just need to have spent your life in a PNG clip joint, guzzling rotgut and getting all manner of nasty infections from the locals... ain't been there, you ain't a real man... etc etc etc... :}

[Capt Hollywood]

Can we get back to the Jewish circus clowns, that sounded interesting!

:ok:

[Woomera]

Data, there are words one could use here (if one were uncouth), which are part of the Aussie vernacula and which may not be acceptable in our Fearless Leader's forums, dictated by the Queen's English.

However, there are words which may be used in our Fearless Leader's British forum (if one were uncouth), which may not be used in this forum, dictated by Woomera's Dunnunda Rules.

And all the children gathered around know precisely what I am referring to.

:mad:

Woomera

[Omaha]

My pleasure Kaptin

Did this thread temporaily go off the radar this morning or is it me going ga ga. :ugh:

I put my ground itinerary together yesterday Kaptin & I don't know why those people in the tour company said I'd hit Hanmer Springs on the 19th December cause by my estimations I won't be heading there till the 31st December, I'll be there for New Years day should the company not change the scheduling for next year. So if you can make it let me know & if there's any change meantime I'll let you know. Cricky I know, its lousy timing. :\

Sorry just saw your question Kaptin. No, I've a pure Irish background born & bred. I've a half sister (& ex EI FA incidentally) in Oz who's married to a very handsome Irishman, my schoolfriends just to swoon over pics of him & he old enough to be their father. She has two grown up daughters & the're all based in Brisbane I think still, after living all over Oz (well Perth & Sydney) including a long spell in Noosa. But she's on 'the other side' & I won't be visiting her nor would I be welcome when I visit Oz unfortunately. C'est la vie.

Raw Data

Be nice now! I'm a visiting your country this year. :E ;)

[Raw Data]

Woomera

I will assume that whichever of you replied is very drunk.

Either that, or you are unfamiliar with the concept of irony.

In either case, I thank you for your patronising reply. I am still unclear as what the f***ing h*ll you are on about, but still, it's kind of fun.

Omaha

You are? Well, look there's still time. Give us your real name and we'll advise immigration accordingly... :cool:

[Omaha]

Whatever ******* says. :E

[NZLeardriver]

Potential MOD flight brewing? Might be an interesting change for around here...:ooh:

[amos2]

I've got my money on the spear...

didn't know anything about this Raw Data bloke 'til the other day!

:p

[Woomera]

Ritual spearing administered :E and peace pipe smoked :ok: after a friendly discussion of the not well understood notion that we are often divided from our cousins by a common language.:uhoh:

Visiting Canadian mate ex VP IFALPA who was sent down here "then" and who looked after my eldest daughter on a Rotary Intnl Scholarship for a year much later on, was staying with us at Christmas just recently.
Asked what he should bring for the beach, was told "stubbies and thongs".

He sorta got the stubbies right and bought a carton on the way from the airport :rolleyes: but was very emabarrased that he didn't have, nor would his lovely wife wear a thong. :p :p :p

[Raw Data]

yeah... wot he said. :p

You can relax, amos2, I don't mod in here. Do I look nuts to you...??? ;)

[The Voice]

oh dear me,

go away for a few days and the children run riot ..
Woomera(i)(ai)(ii) what in heck did you put in the water?

Whatever it is, can I have some to please, I'd like to be able to catch up and join in .. I think _:hmm:

[OzExpat]

I'm sure there's some relevance to aviation somewhere in this topic. I'll just have to continue the search for it... :}

[maxgrad]

your from NZ that makes you nuts by default

[tinpis]

Nah you just need to have spent your life in a PNG clip joint, guzzling rotgut and getting all manner of nasty infections from the locals... ain't been there, you ain't a real man... etc etc etc...
raw data
:hmm: Im sure Ozex joins me in wondering what your point is?

[Pinky the pilot]

Tinpis; I'm curious too! WTF is a PNG clip joint??
I was a good boy when there and did'nt frequent places of ill-repute.....'though come to think of it, the Club Dero could have sometimes passed for one.:E

You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.

[Pharknose]

Is it the scab word that offends everyone?

[Raw Data]

tinpis, ozex, pinky

Just having a little fun with you. you know, poking the borax. Winding you up. Apparently nobody got it. Odd, for Aussies - usually the very first to take the p*ss.

Anyway the allusion was between the hardened men of the "89ers" and the hardened men of PNG.

Think about it.... :E

[Omaha]

Raw Data

You had better be careful or I'll send that one who sounds like a bit of old material after you! I KNOW you'd like that!!! :E :E :E

[scatboy3]

HAS BEEN :}

[Woomera]

Well now kiddies we have allowed you to stay up a bit later than usual to talk to the grown ups but now its bed time, so go and brush your teeth say your prayers and we'll tuck you up for the night and Aunty Voice will read you a story. :ok: :p and turn the light off.:}