Aero Flight doing an Easy sub......

[kooyheier]

Is business going so well with Ezy these days that they're subchartering bigger A/C to accomodate their pax loads?????

When on stand this morning @ LGW getting everything ready myself.. Heard an Ezy callsign with a very very german accent...
Didn't think much about it.

When pushed back and asking for taxi they said hold short of the A321... which seconds later asked for taxi using an Ezy callsign.

Anyone know more about this .. the callsign was the Ezy 8002 using an A321 from Aero Flight (A german charter company)

Cheers

[The Greaser]

Would have been a postitioning flight with that call sign - probably to go and rescue pax off an AOG.

[kooyheier]

If it was a positioning flight than WHY would it come to LGW first (and not depart from its base in germany) and than depart to it's destination using that callsign....???? Doesn't make sense to me.... :confused: :confused: :confused: I'm sticking to a sub...:ok:

[Fried_Chicken]

Came in (to Gatwick) last night from Frankfurt as EZY8001, went down to Palma & back then went back to Frankfurt as EZY8002

Not sure why they subbed it in though?

Fried Chicken

[Off Stand]

The only theory I have is that a lot of cabin crew have been getting very close to their max block hours in a certain time frame, thus the rotation was subbed as not enough available crew to operate it. I was an sccm for them a couple of years ago and similar things happened then, Futura flew for about a month with crew and an a/c based at LGW.

Although, I could be completely wrong!!

[morroccomole]

FC, it went to ALC on the 5223/5224. Positioned back to FRA at 05:50. Don't know the reason for sub though.

[monkey lover]

Probably find it was cheaper to sub in the flight than to cancel it due to those lovely new EU regs.....

[bartelby]

Ezy was looking for sub availability this morning due Crew shortage (I think sickness).

Its the start of the summer season again...

[mcdhu]

Not just CC - there are pilots unable to fly due high hours too!!

Cheers
mcdhu

[Fifty Above]

Crew shortage due to mass resignations of cabin crew at LGW (13 yesterday!) The Company are getting so desperate that they are phoning failed applicants to offer them positions...

[Off Stand]

I've also heard that they are dropping the recruitment age to 17, training the crew and then putting them on line when the are 18!!!!

[Getoutofmygalley]

Off Stand, assuming that you are EZY crew, you should be aware of the NTC that recently said we are lowering the age limit to 18.

EZY do not recruit crew at the age of 17, if you look on the jobs section of easyJet.com it states clearly that the age requirement is Aged 18 or over.

Plus, to quote Fifty Above that 13 cabin crew resigned at LGW yesterday is absolute tosh. If 13 crew did resign, PM me with the details - but of course you won't be able to do that as there were not 13 resignations.

If you guys are EZY crew, post fact not absolute fiction!

[Off Stand]

Thankyou for your warm reply!
I am ex ezy crew and I was at a recent gathering of about 30 ezy from LGW and the RUMOUR is that the recruitment age MAY be dropped to 17 and actually get on line at 18!
I'm sorry if I caused any confusion, but chill!

[Fifty Above]

goomg Tell us the facts then - how many resignations this year? Maybe the 80 sectors a month is killing them off! S'pose its normal to have 60 cabin crew covering from other bases is it?

At a recent recruitment day there were more recruiters than applicants!

[Doug the Head]

S'pose its normal to have 60 cabin crew covering from other bases is it? True! Le Meridian is full of cabin crew from STN, LPL and LTN to cover LGW. So much for being a "low cost" airline... :{

[Getoutofmygalley]

goomg Tell us the facts then - how many resignations this year?

I can't tell you how many resignations there have been this year, but there have been a lot (hell of a lot!) but it is absolute tosh that 13 resigned in one day. There have been around about that amount in the last month though!!

80 sectors a month will kill anybody off and the EZY top brass need to raise their heads out of the sand before the biggest base is uncapable of meeting the scheduled needs of the travellers.

On the other hand, there are lots of crew who have a hell of a lot less than 80 sectors all thanks to the 900 hour limit which a lot of crew have nearly reached within 8 months of being online!!!

And yes the Meridian is full of crew from other bases (BFS, GVA and at least 1 from EDI) and no this would not and should not be considered normal.

So there you are, some facts from a still serving LGW crew member!

[Stu Bigzorst]

Getoutofmygalley,

Thank you for the "facts". I am interested in the "fact" you quoted that implied cabin crew have reached their 900 hour limit in 8 months.

There is no limit for cabin crew (other than 105 duty hours in 2 weeks)...

Or were you suddenly referring to FD?

[Slim20]

Stu - you are mistaken. the 900-hour rolling annual flying hour total has now been applicable to cabin crew for some time.

There have been ludicrous numbers of cabin crew "grounded" by being given "high" days on their roster for this reason.

If your base hasn't experienced this yet - it soon will.

[Stu Bigzorst]

Thanks - didn't know that. My manual (well, the latest CD) says:

1.16.12 RULES RELATING TO CABIN CREW

The annual and 28 day limits on flying hours appertaining to flight crew do not
apply.

Guess the manual is out of date already!

[Banzai Eagle]

Slim 20 and Stu

Your probably thinking of the yearly 2000 duty hour limit which i think is a rolling limit. This applies to both CC and FD and its a recently introduced EU working time directive. I understand BA have had similar issues as well.

[Getoutofmygalley]

Guys

From the DFT website:

no person shall, during the course of his working time, act as a member of the cabin crew employed by him on board an aircraft registered in the United Kingdom if during the period of twelve months expiring at the end of the previous month the aggregate of that person's block flying time exceeds 900 hours, and

no crew member employed by him shall have a total annual working time, including overtime and any period spent on standby during the period of twelve months expiring at the end of the previous month that exceeds 2000 hours.

For a direct link to the DFT web site click here (http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_aviation/documents/page/dft_aviation_023556-03.hcsp)

The 900 hours limit applies to not just flight deck, but to cabin crew as well.