AAI gets a raise!!!

[AAIGUY]

Just got the email.
Immediatly (as of June 1) $50 a day perdiem and $5 a day contract increase, as well as 1.5% cost of living increase!!!

[Rocco in Budapest]

That should bring you well over the poverty line. Congrats!

[Kapt. Ive]

Good on ya mate! It's more than our (Dragonair) blokes on the freighter fleet got!!!

[maverick1980]

is the per diem of 50 USD only gonna be paid on layover or for each work day at base.

what about overtime any increase to that or is it still 70 USD for FO/FE and 100 USD for Captains.


mav

[AAIGUY]

There is a raise to overtime time too.
Whatever your day rate ie..200 x 30 days a month divided by 75.
Is now $80 an hr where it used to be $70.
For me it equates to about $9000 USD more a year.

[MaxBlow]

a little step in the right direction !;)

[shake rattle n roll]

WOW! 1.5% that certainly is going to keep the troops happy.
I wonder what the Icelandics got as an increase....rumour has it 32%

[747-200/300]

For the "average" contract F/O it could mean an extra $1700 in the bank each month. About a 30% increase to current pay. Not a bad raise, but I'm sure the very vocal group of sacked AAI pilots here on the board will bash it anyway.

[Phil Squares]

but I'm sure the very vocal group of sacked AAI pilots here on the board will bash it anyway.

What about those of us who left on our own volition?

[747fanatic]

When is AAI recruiting Captains again? have not seen their adverts in a while.

[montys ex teaboy]

747-200/300

I am vocal as you put and I think I have the right be. Don't hear much from the management on these forums, do we. If I was in, or were, in a position of authority and therefore responsibility (the two go hand in hand) and being critised on these or other public forums I would at least try and put up some sort of defence. Wouldn't anyone worth their salt?

Yes I was fired as I had the balls to stand up to the so-called management at the time of my 12 months with AAI. Well they stopped my pay. They didn't have the stomach to actually tell me to my face or communicate with me in any way. All I wanted was honesty, which I value most of all and something that was sadly lacking.

Any company worth a damn, normally promotes its’ best people to positions of management, especially those that deal directly with employees. Man management and people skills (or the lack of it) come to mind. I had no respect for them whatsoever. If they were the “pick of the bunch” then what on earth were the rest like?? Trying to answer that question really scared me.

They paid me for 12 months and my training but they got no return for their, shall we call it “outlay” all because of their inability to communicate with any degree of honesty. I am aware that my pay, such as it was, and my training is very small in AAI’s overall costs. However if it was my company and employees just walked off without any return on “investment” I would not be very happy and would want to know why. AAI make a big issue on their website about a so called grievance policy. Well that’s BS take it from me. Maybe they just don’t care, which raises another issue. If the company can waste money on me and others that walk off the job, then they are surely in a position to give you a much larger pay rise than they have offered.

[16 blades]

So what does a newhire F/O earn, on average, with AAI?

16B

[Earl]

Probably more than you would make anywhere else..
You have read the trreads.
Probably a good job now, I have heard that changes have been made.

[16 blades]

Can you quantify that with examples? It's difficult to work out just looking at the per diem info available.

16B

[747-200/300]

There are different contracts:

The new F/O rate for those who had a 747 type rating when they were hired is $230 per day.

I'm not sure of the new rate for those F/Os that were hired without the type. I think it's around $200-205 per day now.

I would suggest a call or email to one of the contract companies (Direct or Airborne) to confirm the new contract rates for those interested in flying for AAI.

[16 blades]

So, in an average month, how many 'days' pay does one earn? I am trying to compare with other operators who salary their pilots.

16B

[Kep Ten Jim]

AAIGUY -

How much is a 744 captain earning now after the pay rise?

[747-200/300]

So, in an average month, how many 'days' pay does one earn?

If you make yourself available every day of the month, you'll get paid for every day of the month. As an ad hoc contractor, you have a great deal of control over your availability.

I guess it depends on your personal situation and where you are based. If you live in your base city and make yourself available every day of the month, you'll be paid for every day of the month, even "off" days. I have never heard of anyone being forced into a "no pay" status if they made themselves available to fly.

[AAIGUY]

Crews get paid for EVERYDAY they are out on contract. Whether you are on a day off, sick, flying , travelling, or hung over..you're still getting paid. They do not pay you when THEY fly you home at their expense on vacation.

Typically most guys will for 4-6 weeks and go home for a couple. It varies.

RE:B747-400 Capts. Not sure I fly the Classic. I think they make around $350 USD a day so that is $10,500 on a 30 day month + the $1500 perdeim. $12,000. That's completly tax free paid offshore.

[Earl]

Same as before, you were paid the daily rate from the time you left your home until you returned.
Most cases 1 day travel time per leg.
While on base (away from your home) you got the daily rate even if you were not flying.
I think I am correct AAI guy can correct me if I am wrong.
Sounds like you guys have a good contract once again.
Much better than those of us in the Majik Kingdom.

[AAIGUY]

Exactly correct.

[16 blades]

Thanks guys. Sounds like a fairly good deal, if you can cope with the extended time away.

How about time to command?

16B

[jonjie]

$350 ? that's what Casa 235/ Dash-7 fo's earn in a MONTH in my neck of the woods. Some guys have all the luck!

[MaxBlow]

don´t sweet talk things here...still not good enough for the work that is being done by all contractors. get real!

as mentioned before:
a very very very little little little step fwd. only. i bet an arm and a leg that a better and more realistic offer will be on the table rather soon before another bunch of guys jump ship!

1.5% - off time still off pay! har har:}

[AAIGUY]

MAXBLOW thats just a lot of hot air. The raise is $15-20,000USD tax free in my pocket. PER YEAR. Yes there are issues, but the increase was SIGNIFIGANT. Based on this past year's days worked forcast to next year I will take home over $90,000 USD. No tax, no union dues, nothing.,, All in my pocket. Thats not Singapore Airlines money, but it is still very decent.

[MaxBlow]

AAIGUY,

right, 15 to 20k if you can keep it tax free. most of the guys in europe can´t! and also only if you make yourself available 365days /year

350US/day is what you get after 10 years with the company/agency.

NO vacation!

pdm is new, it used to be included in the daily rates (harhar).
thank you, i will go to work in a clean shirt from now on.

so what´s the improvement here?
only the most normal contract stuff!

i understand that it is a big step fwd for guys who worked for quite some time with aai and who sort of got used to be used.

now- please don´t get me wrong here - i like what i do (otherwise i woudn´t do it) but compare your (our) pay with the other contracts (same ac).

no sweat - everythings gonna be alright!





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[NZLeardriver]

How is the pay tax free? Surely you have to pay tax somewhere?

[AAIGUY]

Nope. No tax ANYWHERE.

Re $350. I believe that is what the B747-400 Captains START at.
I know the FOS start at $235 USD a day. I may be off by $10-20 a day on the Capts scale, not sure. HOWEVER it is well over $300 a day to START,

Taxes for the European guys? Only if there not set up correctly.

I was going to interview with a CAL. I am htinking of not even going to the interview. Its not worth it. AAI is the place to be for me!

[NZLeardriver]

How do you get away with not paying tax in your home country? Or where the airline is based?
Not that I doubt you, just seems a little odd to me. Your profile says UK, I would have thought they would be trying to get as much out of you as they could rather than leave you alone!

[jonjie]

without sounding moronic....what does AAI stand for ?

[fatbus]

AAI - air alanta iceland
AAE air alanta europe

[Phil Squares]

Legally speaking the pay at AAI is NOT tax free. The employee is paid through the contractor (Direct or Airborne) and it's the employee's responsibility to pay taxes.

What many pilots do is simply "forget" to pay the applicable taxes on their wages. That's a choice they make. However, do not represent the wages as being "tax free".

[Earl]

For the US taxpayer you are allowed up to 80,000 USD tax free.
As long as you meet the time out of country requirements.
Which I think is 330 days a year.
Or show residency in another country.
You can still enter the country on a General Deck as an operating crew member and it will not effect your time at home.
At least that is what the tax man tells me.
Been doing it for over 10 years and the IRS says I owe nothing.

[LEMD]

The -400 starting pay was $300.00 for a captain and $233.00 for first officer per available day.

Now it's $305 plus 1.5% or $238.00 plus 1.5% Plus the $50.00 per diem just introduced.

Tax is based on the individuals requirements and paid by the individual as we are self employed contractors.

Classic I believe was $250 and $175 per day I believe.

Still going to CAL AAIguy?

[AAIGUY]

Giving it serious thought LMED. AAI Pays much better now. :ok:

Classic Pay is $305 a day 1st year Capt. (includes perdeim)
$230 a day 1st year FO. (includes perdiem)

[Prince Buster]

So, did we come to any results on app. how much a new F/O on the classic make a month, before you decide (or not :E ) to pay taxes???

Cheers

[Earl]

230 x 30= 6,900 per month.

[AAIGUY]

I really don't think one decides to pay tax or not. The situation is such that most countries do not require you to pay taxes due to the circumstance. I am a legal non resident of my own country and am absolutly within the legal system to not pay tax. If you are European and based in LUX, there are reciprical tax treaties with most other European countries that can have you paying 0 tax too. This whole operation is completely offshore.

[Podunk]

747fanatic et al

AAI is recruiting 742 and 744 Captains as we speak... check ur PM

Podunk

PS: It's Air Atlanta Icelandic & Air Atlanta Europe