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DirectAnywhere
26th May 2005, 22:36
Airfares are going up as CASA moves towards "full cost recovery". Expect to pay more people!!!

CASA fees gaining altitude (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,15415902%255E23349,00.html)

Love those catchy bylines!!;)

Ultralights
26th May 2005, 23:17
Civil Aviation Safety Authority moves to quadruple the revenue it receives from the industry over the next three years.

CASA acting chief executive Bruce Gemmell told the Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport Committee on Tuesday that revenue would need to rise by $5 million each financial year until it reached $20 million in 2008-09.

at this rate there wont be an indusrty left by 2008!!! there almost isnt one now!

Any moves to significantly increase charges is certain to produce an angry backlash and could imperil CASA chief executive Bruce Byron's attempts to forge stronger links with industry.

No ****e shirlock!

Mainframe
26th May 2005, 23:46
Is the service provided going to be commensurate with the cost?

Let's look at the simple task of putting an aircraft on an AOC.

Minimum response time published: 90 days.

So what really is involved that it can't be done in a day, or even an hour?

Go and buy a used car, go to the regulator, with a cheque and the list of certificates, inspections, insurance etc that the regulator stipulates, get in the queue and you're out the same day, sometimes less than an hour.

Surely with an aircraft we could have all required documentation, and a cheque and do the same?

No, we've got to buy the aircraft, then not use it until the CASA process is complete, minimum 90 days, often 6 months or longer.

A typical motor registry processes dozens of these transaction s daily.

CASA would be unlikely to handle more than one a week at any of it's offices.

Am I missing something here? And now we've got to pay more for this pathetic performance?

I'm sure others have similar experiences, such as 23 months to approve a checklist for a very common GA twin, or adding a variant of a type already held.

Fee for service is not an unreasonable concept, so if the fees go up, does the level of service?

prospector
27th May 2005, 00:43
This must be where the "Affordable Safety" part comes in.

If you can afford to pay them they can tell you how to run a safe operation.

Prospector

Rich-Fine-Green
30th May 2005, 04:23
I have been quoted 11.5 hours to add a simple twin onto an AOC that already has a dozen multi-types on it!!!!!

11.5 x $135 plus the 12 weeks it takes......

About time to hang up the spurs methinks.

:mad: :mad:

frangatang
30th May 2005, 08:27
You aint seen nothing yet.Try the CAA (campaign against aviation)
in the UK,hell bent on destroying what little there is left of GA,and forgetting who fills their coffers.They of course can now blame their european masters for the high costs,but as l say you have no idea of costs over there,but then its all relative isnt it.