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The Governor
23rd May 2005, 17:54
I don't know if this has been posted already.

http://tvtotal.prosieben.de/components/videoplayer/0698/0698-00-06-wm_midband.html?mode=<a%20href

There's a couple of minutes of general chit-chat before the flying starts.

I just wish I knew some German so I could tell what the presenter says at the end. I think I have an idea and it isn't "Thank You".

bockywocky
23rd May 2005, 21:39
They are talking about how long the pilot could do this. His answer is: "after half an hour, i also need a bit of rest but then i start from the beginning".

Then the reporter asks him how long it lasted, and the answer is: "about 10 minutes".

:cool:

Letsby Avenue
23rd May 2005, 22:49
I felt a bit queasy just watching it...:yuk:

The Nr Fairy
24th May 2005, 04:40
Do you mean this thread ? (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=169597&highlight=bo105)

Dash1B
24th May 2005, 15:47
How long does it take to get used to aerobatics like that? Or even just the simple low-G pushover sensations? I still feel my stomach rise momentarily when bottoming the collective. Does that sensation eventually go away?

-1B

Letsby Avenue
24th May 2005, 21:15
We used to regularly roll and backflip the Lynx during our 4 Lynx routine in the early 90s and you do get used to it but it still isn't that nice - You have to get used to the fact that you're always within 1% of certain disaster and there is no room for error.

Graviman
3rd Jun 2005, 20:03
"... roll and backflip the Lynx ... you're always within 1% of certain disaster and there is no room for error."

Did you find that the articulated head made a big difference? I'm not sure how much difference the control system makes in a Lynx, but i noticed the pilot kept positive g throughout the B105 manouvres. Man, that takes skill though...

Mart

[Edit: replacing word "rigid" with "articulated" - never sure which i should really be using, since the objective is rigid flapping and lead-lag just allows for blade flex. Corrected misunderstanding that pilot was the late great Ziggy Hoffman]

IntheTin
3rd Jun 2005, 21:14
Awesome. What an amazing bit of flying! :D

hemac
3rd Jun 2005, 22:00
I would love to see this clip but when I hit the link I get an error on the page.
Can anyone tell me where I might download a version?

H.

BigMike
4th Jun 2005, 06:22
Same as above. I only have dail-up. Too slow. A site where this can be downloaded anyone?

Cheers BigMike

widgeon
4th Jun 2005, 09:24
The pilot in the clip is not Ziggy , he died during the making of a film about helicopters in the early 90's . There is a clip of one of his demo's that is even crazier then the recent German tv version. Including end over end summersaults ( for want of a better word) and rotation about the mast while in a vertical dive. There was an urban legend about the Lynx that an early test pilot put a permenant set in the titanium dogbone after attempting a barrel roll to close to the ground

Graviman
4th Jun 2005, 14:53
Thanks widgeon, post corrected.

Which part of the Lynx control system is the dogbone? I take it though, that the Lynx control system results in an extremely manouvreable heli? My interest stems from the fact that this is (i understand) an electronic update on the AH56 system. See:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=177241

Mart

widgeon
5th Jun 2005, 12:25
I have been away from the lynx for some years so my info may be incorrect.
The lynx has a semi rigid rotor head with only the feathering hinge being a bearing.
THe flapping is handled by the titanium main rotor hub ( the Cutlet ) . The lead lag as i recall by the titanium member outboard of the hub ( the dogbone ) , so named for its shape.
The original Lynx blades were bonded stainless steel and extremely rigid.( also a nightmare to manufacture)

http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Rotorhead/0282.html

the dogbone is the member fwd of the lag damper.
The 105 has a composite main rotor blade attatched to the titanium hub via a titanium cuff in the end of the blade , there are TT straps that link the 2 opposite blades. Feathering is like the lynx via a bearing . The lead lag and flapping hinges are actually the section of the blade before the trailing edge attaches. Considering the amount of bending happening at the blade root it is a credit to the designers that there has not been a single blade failure on a 105 though there has been a catastrophic failure of the TT straps.

http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Rotorhead/0416.html
Safety pins in the picture are the blade fole quick release pins

http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Rotorhead.html



for picture of just about all heads ,

Graviman
5th Jun 2005, 14:30
Thanks widgeon. Don't think i'll ever get bored looking at rotor head designs...

Mart

jbrereton
5th Jun 2005, 18:59
This is an absolute pearl. I have not laughed so much since my wife asked me if the OutTakes at the end of "A Bug's Life" were real.