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Deanw
18th May 2005, 16:39
Mbeki calls for action on aviation in Africa
Sun City
May 18

Africa's aviation industry is fraught by an abysmal safety record and poor services, South African President Thabo Mbeki said on Wednesday, calling for a "comprehensive programme of action" to help it take off.

Speaking at a three-day meeting of African transport ministers discussing ways to improve aviation in the continent, Mbeki said: "It is self-evident that we need a comprehensive programme of action. The parlous state of affairs of the aviation industry leaves a lot to be desired," Mbeki told the meeting, held at the casino resort of Sun City, some 185km northwest of Johannesburg.

"It is alarming that, although the continent accounts for about three percent of total world aircraft departures, Africa witnesses 27 percent of all fatal accidents on its soil," Mbeki said. "Airlines are often unreliable with frequent cancellations, which are not only inconvenient but also unproductive for our economic growth," he said.

Mbeki said he was worried about airline safety standards across Africa, saying an analysis of global aviation statistics had shown that although 2004 was an "extremely safe year, there is reason for concern in Africa".

Ministers from 24 African countries are meeting in Sun City to find ways of implementing a decision taken in Ivory Coast's political capital Yamoussoukro in 1999 to deregulate airline markets on the continent and to improve appalling safety standards.

In 2003, the last year for which comprehensive statistics are available, African airspace accounted for 28 percent of fatal aviation accidents worldwide, the African Airlines Association (AFRAA) said in February this year.

Between 1994 and 2003, Africa recorded 210 aviation accidents, AFRAA said.

Almost 60 percent of those took place in four nations, three of which - Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Angola and Sudan - were wracked by war during most of that period, it said.

AFRAA has blamed the high number of accidents in those countries on the use of illegally acquired and often old, unsafe aircraft.

In those and other states, poorly paid pilots, shortages of resources and mechanics as well as a lack of navigation equipment have contributed to the problem as have visibility problems, particularly during night flights which are favoured by cargo carriers, it said.

The AFRAA report however stressed that the vast majority of mishaps did not involve scheduled passenger flights and maintained that commercial air service, particularly on international routes, was safe.

Instead, it blamed much of the problem on the vagaries of unscheduled flights, poor maintenance, ageing charter airline fleets, untrained crews and the illegal movement of aircraft in war-torn countries.

Mbeki meanwhile said air travel had become a vital form of transport in Africa.

"It is central to our ability to open up areas bedevilled by former conflict, to integrating forest areas or isolated rural regions with mainstream economic hubs, or even allowing our people to travel to and from their home areas," said Mbeki.

Bernard Zomba, the African Union's commissioner for infrastructure and energy, said the aim of the conference was to speed up the Yamoussoukro agreement and find a framework for cooperation between African airlines as well as look at airline safety and security.

"The current state of air transport has, for some years now, been marked by a crisis that is becoming more acute with increasing globalisation. Africa is lagging behind in the liberalisation of the air transport sector," Zomba said.

Recuperator
18th May 2005, 17:59
So why don't we ask the honourable South African Head of State to start the clean-up in our own backyard by training pilots in the South African Air Force with the ability to fly, rather than try and get the numbers right due to affirmative action.

I would say the same would apply to SAA....? :hmm:

As Zimbabwe was the breadbasket of Africa, why can't South Africa be the breadbasket for professionally trained pilots and maintenance engineers for Africa?

Gunship
18th May 2005, 19:46
Spoke to Sean Mendis (GIA) a while ago.

He is at this conference right now at Sin City.

He sounds a bit peefed off with the whole situation at the conference.

Would be good to get feedback from him :ok:

Agree Recuperator - get you OWN back yard clean ... then again he also tries to sort out other countries problems but not his own country's :E

alexmcfire
18th May 2005, 23:23
Unfortunatly no short-cuts in aviation, just heard that 13 died in Zambia when a Chinese made aircraft crashed....RIP....

Pontius' Pilot
19th May 2005, 03:39
I attended the African Aviation Safety Summit in Nairobi, which was held in February this year. This was a precursor to the present meeting at Sun City. At the Nairobi conference critical areas of concern were tabulated and conclusions were formulated by the delegates to forward to the Transport Ministers Conference in Sun City.

Delegates at the Nairobi Conference included representatives from numerous African Airlines, ACSA, IATA, ICAO, FAA, various EU bodies and aviation bodies in Africa e.g. AFRAA, AFRASCA, AFCAC and then some DG's of African States' DCAs were allso present.

Safety in Africa is poor, but there appears to be a genuine attempt to improve it.

What the SA President said in his speech is true and being a meeting of African States' Ministers Of Transport discussing aviation, I would say an appropriate place and time to say it. (The speech was certainly written for the President by an aviation body).

The fact that Aviation in South Africa needs a shake up should not deter from the underlying message contained in his openng address at the Sun City Conference - aviation IN AFRICA needs to be improved.

Gunship
19th May 2005, 11:27
The fact that Aviation in South Africa needs a shake up should not deter from the underlying message contained in his openng address at the Sun City Conference - aviation IN AFRICA needs to be improved.

So true .. so true Pie Pie ;)

Now how about an African FAA ?

Immidiatly it comes to mind how easily they will be open to bribes but then again so is the FAA / CAA and the others in any case ?

Just thinking aloud here ... :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:

ClearReverse
19th May 2005, 13:20
Guns,

sorry to hear that you think we all pay bribes. Some of us have worked really hard to get real licences from real aviation authorities I think the CAA and the FAA would be really interested to know where you can "buy" one, however having flown for a couple of years around equatorial Africa I have met a few pilots that obviously had a lot of money, I say this because trying to discuss basic ATPL concepts with them was worse than drinking warm PRIMUS in a mossie infested bar in Kisangani. Would have drunk Tassies but could'n't get the temperature right.


:p

Gunship
19th May 2005, 13:44
Sorry let me get this right .. I am not talking about licences - safety only.

Just saw a program on a certain ailrline crash (yes 15 yrs ago) and the "books was cooked". The FAA slipped up .. lots died.

We are talking Airline Safety mate - nothing re how you obtained your licence. :E (Get me one I need it ) :E

Ok?

Sorry if I was misunderstood.

Cheers,

Gunss

PS: Back to Africa. A very well known airline (well bespoken on this forum) send an engineer to a certain country. That night he told me there is going to be big sh*t soon.

The next morning he had to send the a/c back to SA. Frame rusted / one engine under booked by 1 000 hrs - the other "over 2 000". The contract was big and that was the beginning of the end for them. Sad part. CAA had their grumpy signatures on the log books :E

Cheers and brgds,

Gunzzz

birdlady
19th May 2005, 15:28
Of course it didnt even occur to them that by implementing huge new ATNS charges for GA industry in SA that it would kill the industry that feeds the airlines its pilots :mad: :mad:

PAXboy
19th May 2005, 17:08
If Africa's leaders manage to notice the link between the carnage on the roads, the slapdash approach to building construction and the poor record of airline saftey - then they will be getting somewhere. There are some fundamentals of approach to life by the humans of the continent that are behind this. Uncomfortable but, that's how I see it.

ClearReverse
19th May 2005, 22:50
Hey Mate SORRY,

thought you meant that we all could buy licences. When you talk about safety I really understand, When you fly around DRC and the borders that are close it gets very scary, aircraft that look if they would'n't get airborne never mind fly, crews that disregard any or all information (not that there is a lot about anyway) plus the fact that there are certain elements flying BIG WHITE AIRCRAFT with big blue markings who seem to think that " bottle to throttle" means don't burp on the Capt and you are sober and its a recipe for disaster. I love Africa and I really love the flying in this part of the world BUT I am obviously a coward its even toooooooo dangerous 4 me.

ps Did I meet you in Sierra Leone in the late nineties or early twenties, I was flying the grey/green machine with 4 engines that sat in the corner of the ramp(near the mossie breeding ground and only a 10 min flip to a great Indian restuarent(sp?)

Respect

please buy me a "tassies" one day

Gunship
20th May 2005, 00:32
Lo mate .. yes I wa sthe one that organised your Nigerian ATPL ... ;)



Seriously surely we must have met but I think that four engined bird of yours was so camouflaged that I could not see it.

Yes and I was flying there since 99 (but I am NOT the OLD man with puckoll hair) .. as my username says - that I flew ;)

PM me mate

Cheers

No more Gunzzzz