.....control, position.

[south coast]

When you are flying, and I am now talking from what I have heard while flying over Africa, why is it that when you are asked to call at position xyz next, you hear people call up the controlling agency and say....

.....(controlling agency's name), callsign, position....and then once acknowledged, give your position.

as opposed to all the above, but with the actual position.

[Rainboe]

It's late at night, you feel you should really be in bed, most of the time nobody responds to your initial call anyway, you know they're not going to get your callsign right first time.........

[BAKELA]

most of the time nobody responds to your initial call anyway Typical SAA...er...African way ain't it!:mad: BTW, I'm talking about telephone calls to you know who...

[contraxdog]

S.C,

Has it been that long since the two of us did the Kalemi thing that you forgot I explained to you why they do that.
It goes like this:
XYZ: ''xyz checking position''
(atc gets up from where he is busy drinking chai and eating bread, spread with Blue Ribbon Margarine, wipes his hand on the flightplan that the last pilot filed with him, wipes his hand over his face to wipe off the crumbs off his chin,( by which time the callsign of the last caller has drifted out he left ear), sits down and presses the transmit button and says,

"calling Lumbumbashi?"

[fluffyfan]

Typical SAA...er...African way ain't it! BTW, I'm talking about telephone calls to you know who...

And you wonder why nobody calls you back........me too, because you are obviously a gem.............

[south coast]

hello contraxdog...

and yes, it has been a very long time, and yes, i had forgottem what you had taught me...

hope things are going well where ever you are, since i am in malta and it is warm and the beer is cold, what more could a mortal ask for!

[chopperkie]

Hey SC!

Have you taught good' ol Dragonara a lesson or two?Used the sjambok lately?

Njoy the beers and see you soon

Boiger:ok:

[mannycarneiro]

Southcoast,
please dont go to the casino and spend the dollars that belongs to the aircraft kitty

[AfricanSkies]

Contraxdog - :D :D great description! How true!

wonder why it always seems to be Blue Ribbon?

[MrBernoulli]

south coast

I think you will find that this particular phraseology is the norm in trans-Atlantic and trans-Pacific regions because of the procedural ATC and HF radio operations. Get the controllers attention first and then pass the details once your call is acknowledged. In Africa (and I lived there 27 years and flew both mil and civvy) I guess it makes sense to do similar because of the often poor comms, and lack of radar cover i.e. procedural ATC.

[south coast]

thanks for that...that would make sense.

and contraxdog...i might be flying the same plane as you soon, but in europe, got a job with netjets, so am out of the desert!!!!!