Thomas Cook Boeing 767

[goldeneye]

I know that Monarch are operating a B767 this summer for Thomas Cook, but does anyone know if this aircraft is operating under a TCX or an MON flight number, also ive been on to Canadian Affairs website and on there timetables the Sunday flight from GLA is operated by a TCX B767 (see image below), initially i thought it was a typing error but i dont think it is as its for most of the season.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/goldeneyeuk/Tcx767.jpg

[jur99llk]

there are many rumours in the company (tcx) about getting 767s (i supose 767-200s) from TCX germany (=condor). Even managers mentioned this posibility during the TCX conference last month in Malaga.
Officially, crew have not been informed anything about this.
It would be good news,actually!

But, as you have just shown us, it´s already on the web (and i dont think it´s a mistake).... let´s welcome 767 to the fleet!!

[mmeteesside]

It's the Monarch B767 that they have on lease from MYT for the summer, it's going to operating a sunday flight from GLA for TCX :p

mmeteesside

[GW76]

Thomas cook / Condor dont operate 767-200's

[jur99llk]

If Thomas Cook Germany (condor) have no 767-200s.... maybe have 767-300s.
And if not even 300s.... Where will TCX England get those 767s from???!!
Please, I need info!!!

[NEastMidlands]

Its the Monarch B767 which is operating one or two flights for Thomas Cook.

The Monarch B767 is current G-DIMB with My Travel.

Thomas Cook want more long haul aircraft but they prefer a A330 with RR Trent however they are really hard to get hold of at the moment.

[jur99llk]

yes, probably because it´s so difficult to get a A330-200 , it´s why TCX are thinking of getting 767s.... but i´d be very interested in knowing which type of 767 they are talking about.
old -200s (unable to cross properly the atlantic to go to the caribean) or -300xs (much more suitable to operate transoceanic flights).
The huge problem por tcx would be that if 767s are broght... what crew will operate them!? crews already operate on A320, B757 and A330.... Crew are not allow to operate on 4 different aircraft types at the same time!!

[GW76]

I thought the 762's had a better transatlantic performance to the 763's.

[jur99llk]

No way! I´m sure about this. A good example about this is ExcelAirways´s 767 fleet. The -300s are used for longhauls, and -200s for Europe and Africa flights. 767-200s are chosen to cross the Atlantic (Tobago, StKitts, Grenada) ONLY when a -300s goes tech.

[jj69]

Excel use the 767-200 for the twice weekly MAN-YYC route though!

[GW76]

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/jetliner/b767/

Please compare range of 767-200 and 767-300. Applies to ER versions also. Excel / Ex - Britannia 767-200's are ER versions.
Britannia have been known to use their 767-200's on direct flight from small airfield in the Uk direct to the Caribbean.

[Freddie-M]

TCX crew are either Airbus or Boeing, not both.

[jur99llk]

sorry, if the information provided on that website is correct, I was wrong. The 767-200 can fly further than the 767-300. How stupid I feel. :-)
Hope TCX bring new 767s....!!

Regarding the last post: I must correct you, and this time i cannot be wrong (I´m a tcx crew). TCX cabin crew (in LGW and MAN) operate already on 3 aircraft types: 320, 330 and 757. That´s why i said that bringing a new aircraft type (767) would cause some problems!

[Freddie-M]

jur99llk. Thought you might be talking about pilots on a pilot forum!

[phoenix son]

B762ER and B763ER have the same fuel capacity, so with a lighter load on the -200 (about 40 less seats = 4 tons or so payload), it should fly further...

[jmccrew]

Its a mistake on the web site had it confirmed by the company
along side the 767 should be a mytravel logo and not the thomas cook

[yeoman]

Range of the a/c is one thing but longer required range requires more fuel which means higher Take Off Mass if everything else remains constant.

This is the sticking point, the ability to get weight off the ground. The Britannia 762s you mention out of shortish fields were almost certainly the 2 GTi aircraft. These have 763 engines on a 762 airframe so have performance to spare!

Those interested, they are G-BYAA and -AB with GE CF6 80C engines. The grand old girls BRIF and BRIG have the -80A engine. They are occasionally performance limited on long haul and are, well, old girls now.

I have no idea on theoretical ranges and only a vague idea of thrust for the 2 types.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

This flight must be on a Skyservice 767, as My Travels B767 will either be flying under Skyservice or Monarch colours.