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Viscount Sussex
8th Dec 2001, 17:04
Turbo-prop crashed on the beach. Both pilots OK.
I saw it yesterday on TV and again this morning, but unfortunately I've only caught the end of it. :eek:

schit.furbraen
8th Dec 2001, 17:13
Ran out of fuel on a little 17 mile trip. Blamed the fuel guages. probably didn't refuel trusting the guages!

Rollingthunder
8th Dec 2001, 18:10
Two crew, both safe.

Remains of aircraft now surfing, badly.

PaperTiger
8th Dec 2001, 22:08
http://www.naplesnews.com/01/12/florida/d726984a.htm

AtlPax
9th Dec 2001, 01:15
Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?id=205675,205674,205673,205672)(click) has photos of the A/C on the beach.

I suppose she'll be written off.

Thankfully everybody is ok :)

Bomber Harris
9th Dec 2001, 06:33
What type of aircraft is it?

pigboat
9th Dec 2001, 06:45
Convair 580.

Hwel
9th Dec 2001, 15:33
Is this the same lot who operate the ex Olsen L188 LN-FO?

Avman
10th Dec 2001, 13:01
Hwel,

Yep, it is. N590HG ex LN-FOO.

411A
10th Dec 2001, 17:59
These turkeys earlier wanted an L10 freighter on their certificate....not likely now. :eek:
Certificate....think it may well go away.

Gaza
10th Dec 2001, 18:27
Ran out of fuel on a little 17 mile trip. Blamed the fuel guages. probably didn't refuel trusting the guages!

From the photo's in the press the bent props would indicate the port engine was still turning when it hit the ground.

rick1128
11th Dec 2001, 06:47
411A, I don't think so. The company can easily say pilot error. Right now there appears to be no strong indications that the company itself was in the wrong. As for trusting fuel gauges, I have always been taught not to trust them.

I worked for TAL many years ago when they operated DC6/7's. It was a fine company then. The MIA FAA always pointed them out as a company to be modeled after to new operators.

pigboat
11th Dec 2001, 07:05
rick, is that the same company that operates the DC-7 freighter painted in the old American colors?

rick1128
11th Dec 2001, 08:45
I don't believe so. As far as I knowe TAL only operates 580's now.

PaperTiger
11th Dec 2001, 09:33
Turks Air has the DC-7B in quasi-AA marks.
Written up in Flying a couple months ago.

Huck
12th Dec 2001, 01:35
Ran out of gas?

Let me guess- us yanks are trying to beat the EU guys on this board in the Jump-To-Conclusions Olympics (referring, of course, to the Crossair crash thread).

pigboat
12th Dec 2001, 06:50
Thanx guys.

METO power
13th Dec 2001, 01:23
Like Rick1128 I used to fly on the DC-6 for TAL 17 years ago and I still remember them as being a very good company. They treated us very good and were honest with us.