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sittin_high
5th Mar 2005, 16:18
Can anyone give me some information on Jetconnect.

I have time on the 737 and would really appreciate a contact address or email for whoever is in charge of pilot employment.

If possible what the general conditions are and how the flight crew feel about working for Jetconnect.

Jet Man
5th Mar 2005, 19:02
sittin_high

Last time I looked you applied to Jetconnect via the pilotstaffcv website.

If you have time on B737 and an Australian or NZ licence I think they will be interested - as well as Freedom and PB.

Alien Sex God
5th Mar 2005, 19:27
**** and ****. Believe me.

VH-VIN
5th Mar 2005, 19:36
The guys I talk to like it there and are very happy.
I fly with them quite alot and seem to be a good airline.
Qantas could take a few lessons from them when it come to service and PR.

Blip
5th Mar 2005, 22:48
Yes they are known for their great operation. :hmm:

The B737-300 has four main doors and two overwing exits. Jet connect carry just three cabin crew. That'll enable the poor crew to offer great safety and service.

A neighbour of mine who travels alot has purchased a Qantas ticket to NZ four times since jet connect started taking up the work. She's also written four letters of complaint!

It's not the fault of the crew. I'm sure they do the best they can under difficult circumstances. But when they're under resourced and underpaid, what kind of service does the company expect them to offer?

From what I've heard, the crews are very happy (to have a job). That's about it.

Sorry. :(

belowMDA
5th Mar 2005, 23:47
So Blip you think they should have 6 crew in the cabin? one for each door is it? what are you trying to get at here? if it would greatly enhance safety then the regulators would have mandated it. There are two jumpseats in the cockpit so should there be four pilots there?

Sunrise
5th Mar 2005, 23:49
Rumour has it that they are so happy in Jet Connect that there has been a large turn over of crews in the last year or so.

Would current or past employees like to comment?

Blip
6th Mar 2005, 01:02
To answer your question belowMDA Four cabin crew is the absolute minimum. Five would be much better.

I'd don't know where to start.

Cabin fire. There's a fire in the aft toilet. The first crew member that see's it grabs a fire extinguisher and immediately sets about fighting it. A second crew member grabs a second fire extinguisher and dons a smoke mask, then taps the first crew member on the shoulder and takes over the role as primary fire fighter. The third crew member is on the phone to the pilots informing them of the situation and describing what s/he sees.

Great. If that is a Jetconnect flight, that's every cabin crew member taken care of. Who's left to manage the rest of the cabin? No one.

Rejected take-off. The plane aggressively pulls up to a stop. The cabin crew quickly get up, stands at their assigned doors and look for clues as to why the take-off was rejected. If they see something alarming, they will attempt to contact the flightdeck to relay the information. In the mean time a passenger in the mid cabin shouts "FIRE". All hell breaks loose. At that moment, passengers are poping open the overwing exits and rushing the other main doors.

While the passengers on the overwings are allowing fire and smoke to enter the cabin, the ones that get out are running past an angine that has not yet been shut down.

The poor cabin crew member at the back of the plane is trying to prevent two doors from being opened as the evacuation has not yet been called for by the Captain. Too bad. The now panic stricken passengers push past her, open the doors and begin jumping out before confirming that the slide is correctly inflated. A pile of broken arms, broken legs and broken spines pile up on the concrete outside.

Cabin service.

120 passengers. 115 hot meals. 80 cans of beer, 40 small bottles of wine, 50 oj's, 30 cans of coke, 5 special meals, 74 cups of coffee, 68 cups of tea, 84 show interest in duty free, 23 want to look at the merchandise, 18 would like to buy some, 15 of these want to put it on the credit card. Of the other three that will pay cash, one of these has only a $100 bill. Does anyone have change for a hundred??

Oh and find time to feed yourself before your blood sugar levels drop so much you can't think straight. You must remain alert! Remember that evacuation you have to keep control of? Oh and keep being nice. Keep smiling to the passengers!

With five crew, you can offer a superior service.
With five crew you have a chance of controlling the overwing exits.

Another thing to consder. If the plane is involved in an accident, do you not consider it reasonable to expect at least one crew member becoming incapacitated?

Five crew down to four. Acceptable.
Three crew down to two. Unacceptable.

Regulators. Hmmm. Are these the same regulators that allow ETOPS fights to travel Melbourne to Perth across the Bite with no ELT's?

Yeah nice one.

Captain.Q
6th Mar 2005, 02:50
One flight deck door ...one pilot..using your logic not mine.
Agree with Blip completely

Wizofoz
6th Mar 2005, 08:52
To answer your question belowMDA Four cabin crew is the absolute minimum. Five would be much better.

Nice thought Blip. Now if you would care to return to the real world....

Every LCC carrier in Europe and the US carries the minimum mandated crew of 1 per 50 seats, eg 3 cabin crew in a 149 seat 737 300/700. This woukd represent somewhere in the vicinity of
800 aircraft (Think about it. easyJet, Ryan air, Southwest, Air Berlin...) operated legally and safely for many years.

If 5 is good, 12 is better. Minimum numbers are set by regulation and you can't blame an operator for doing no more than obeying the rules. Customer service is another matter entirely, but if it is so bad it will hit tham in the hip pocket, and that is, after all, what it's all aout.

aerostatic
6th Mar 2005, 09:48
JC carry 4 cabin crew on trans-Tasman flights and 3 on domestic flights.

boocs
6th Mar 2005, 14:18
Alright you lot.....

Perhaps inquire (enquire??) as to the magnificent Staff Travel Benefits that are offred in JetConnect, or better still, one of their pilots who resigned recently to take up a position as a Second Officer with the big Q... (I believe a Capt at that)

Ok different horses for courses...

Zapatas Blood
6th Mar 2005, 22:30
Boocs,

Are you suggesting that a low yield short haul startup carrier should offer compensation and benefits similar to those enjoyed by staff at an incumbant long haul business airline?

Howard Hughes
7th Mar 2005, 00:03
I have just done a search of prune and read a lot of threads about Jetconnect. I have also read the short spiel on staffcv.

Could someone please answer the following questions.

1. What are the "actual requirements" for entry, by this I don't mean the published ones, but what sort of experience do the people getting in have?

2. I have read the minimum salaries on staffcv, but with flying bonuses and DTA, what sort of pay are you getting each year/month?

3. What is the actual cost of endorsement?

4. What is the time to command and how is this decided? ie: Seniority or perfomance based?

5. Are there any staff travel benefits with Jetconnect?

Thanks in advance for the help, please feel free to PM me.

Cheers, HH.

:ok:

boocs
7th Mar 2005, 01:27
Zap,

No. What I do find astounding (from what I have been told) is that pilots with Jetconnect are unable to get ANY staff travel benifits of ANY description with Jetconnect or QF......

I would also have to question whether Jetconnect could still be classified as a "startup carrier". How long have they been operating now......

sittin_high
7th Mar 2005, 02:00
Thanks everyone for all of the replies. Lot of information. Iam still very interested in joining Jetconnect. I have been applying on pilotstafcv to no avail.

I have I over 6000 hours with over 1100 hours on the 737 and over 4000 total jet.

Is there someone out there who cansend me a private messagewitha fax or email to someone in Jetconnect that I can also send my details directly to?

Appreciate the reply in advance.

The Enema Bandit
7th Mar 2005, 02:07
Why don't you just use the friggin' phone book and just ring up??

downwind
7th Mar 2005, 03:16
bit of a tough call Enema Bandit,

sittin_high, I think the peron at Jetconnect doing flightcrew recruitment is Captain Keith Duncan, ex AN tech crew recruitment person. Not to sure of the address thought?

DW.

rescue 1
7th Mar 2005, 04:21
Sadly, a search for Jetconnect in NZ whitepages.co.nz reveals...nothing?!?

downwind
7th Mar 2005, 06:43
try these;

When dialing from Oz land;

JC main no:

0011 649 256 7616

JC in flt services:

0011 649 256 7635

JC ops control:

0011 649 256 7671

DW.:O