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6100
20th Feb 2005, 17:06
If anyone thought things were going to get better, take a look at this gem.




Qantas finds route around foreign crews cap
By Scott Rochfort
February 21, 2005


Qantas is looking to bypass an agreement that caps the number of cabin crew based overseas by hiring lower-paid Asian crews to work for its low-cost international subsidiary, Australian Airlines.

bonvol
20th Feb 2005, 19:54
In other words, we haven't got a clue how to increase revenue so you workers will have to foot the bill.

AllInGoodTime
20th Feb 2005, 21:17
Does anyone think it to be the case, that Qantas are slowly going to grow Australian Airlines into both short and long haul international, all with contracted labour, then slowly reduce Qantas mainlines routes. It seems to be pointing to reducing mainline and growing Australian.

chief wiggum
20th Feb 2005, 22:51
OK... I am having trouble understanding this ....

Qantas cementing its reputation as the world's most profitable airline

and
If we want to be like more of our competitors

What these two quotes ay to me is" we are the worlds most profitable airlines,but we want to be MORE like those airlines who earn less than us!?

SO.... as the worlds most profitable airline, they aim to be LESS profitable ?

If the formula works, why change it?

str
22nd Feb 2005, 02:58
Dixon and Co's plan is becoming clearer every day.

Shrink mainline flying back to bare minimum and increase Australian airlines.

Then bleat on and on that Qantas needs to reduce the amount of staff it has.

Transfers to AO will come around along with VR packages for the senior crew who QF no longer wants and who will say' Piss off' to being transfered to AO.

Younger crew will transfer to AO so they can keep flying and pay their mortgages, even though they will be on lower pay and worse conditions.

Aircraft will be painted as AO aircraft.

THEN in a few years when the majority of QF staff have left or transfered over to AO they will REBRAND AO back to Qantas.

Managers got what they wanted - Cheaper employees and the Qantas brand still flying.




:mad:

Woomera

The_Cutest_of_Borg
22nd Feb 2005, 03:19
I am by no means a QF apologist but these conspiracy theories re AO will only be realised if you hear of AO getting business class.

Until then, it is a transfer of "leisure routes" to AO. I am not saying it won't happen, but the QF brand still has some clout and management is well aware of this.

surfside6
22nd Feb 2005, 07:29
The March Edition Of Australia Aviation Magazine tends to bear out most of what STR is saying.Dixon feels that Asia will provide more pax than the"rest of the world put together"for QF.Hence the deals done with shorthaul.The Australian based pax will end up supplying only a small% of Qf business.The Australian component has been shrinking for years
Mainline(longhaul) QF will eventually represent a small component of the overall Qantas Group's business.Servicing the States,London and Jo'Burg.The rest will be Asia and the subcontinent.There is enough longhaul experience now in shorthaul to make the international routes (flown by shorthaul)to work effectively.This may have been the idea all along.
Dixon has now created enough self interest in longhaul(the interstate bases)that any sway the FAAA may have will eventually dissipate.
Like the pilots we have been complicit in our own demise.

Romeo Tango Alpha
23rd Feb 2005, 01:36
Abeles + alive today = Dixon.

So many similarities:
Both SCREWED / are screwing the airline they controlled

Both have / had a major politician feeding out of their back pocket

Both couldn't give a flying squirrel about their employees, other than what contract number you are, and how disposable.

Both had / have NO MORAL PROBLEMS employing contract / strike breaking employees

Both have gotten too big for their boots.

Thankfully, one of the forementioned is no longer with us. May the devil burn his body (for he had no soul to torment)

GalleyHag
23rd Feb 2005, 02:36
The_Cutest_of_Borg

In a newsletter to all Australian Airlines cabin crew from the FAAA (www.faaa.net) dated 9 February 2005 in part states:

"Yesterday, for the first time AO also said that they want to remove the restriction on operating a single class service, but not compensate you for a potentially increased workload if they operate more than one class. AO now claims they want to remove the current restrictions on 4-hour East-West flying, the restriction on only using 767 aircraft, and operating a single class service so that they can grow the business and provide job security for cabin crew."

Maybe they are not conspiracy theories afterall.