Identify this Old/Strange Heli

[Vfrpilotpb]

Yesterday at about 1430Hrs flying East to West from Direction of Leeds(EGNM) towards either Blackpool(Egnh) or Liverpool(Eggp) I watched a very strange looking Heli, it almost resembled a Garden shed with a very short yet High fixed tail rotor, and a small diameter main rotor I think it had three blades , was powered by what sounded to be a four cylider piston and was getting along nicely at about 50 /60 knots.

It was darkish green or blue and looked in good nick flying at about 350/450 ft, looked very ancient.

Anybody got any ideas, Ive looked in my books but cant find anything that resembles it with the exception of the front of the Horsa Glider from WW11.


PeterR-B

[Floppy Link]

Skeeter?

http://www.britishaircraft.co.uk/pictures/skeeter.jpg ?

[helicopter-redeye]

A Whirlwind perhaps? Is there a Dragonfly still flying in UK? 3 blades and slow.


(or an R66 Experimental Diesel??)

:E :E

[zeeoo]

I think that's a new prototype for a flying shower-cabin :D

[helicopter-redeye]

Was it a normal Army Air Corp Lynx helicopter carrying a very large Pizza???

;)

[Vfrpilotpb]

Thanks but none of these, the cabin was about twice the size of the skeeter, and it was very angular at the front with slab sides, the tail boom seemed short in comparison with the cab.

PeterR-B

[Thud_and_Blunder]

Wheels or skids?

Apart from the piston-engine mention, your description sounds a bit like the Westland Wasp.

http://www.futura-dtp.dk/Flysiden/images/Wasp.jpg

[helicopter-redeye]

Good point on the Wasp, but the piston sound? The Wasp/ Scout is very distinctive. Peter, art thou certain it wuz a piston?

(Dragonfly again??) - Russian??

[Vfrpilotpb]

It had skids, and was most defo a Piston, I was on the telphone outside and my caller asked "what is that bloody racket"

Looking at the picture of the wasp, it had a tail boom about the same sort of height but only about 75% of length, and the cabin ended where the rotor mast is on the wasp, but it had dead straight sides, reminded me of very old type of Van it was so angular!

Peter R-B


Are there any Vintage Choppers still able to fly about?

[helicopter-redeye]

To summarise the evidence so far:-

Its got skids not wheels (Goodbye Wasp or Skeeter but Scout?)

Piston engine (Goodbye Scout)

A tailboom shorter than a Scout/ Wasp

Very slow

Cab like a Scout/ Wasp

Straight sides like a van

?????:confused: :confused: :confused:



Its the piston sound that gets me. Without it it sounds like a Scout (a lot about) or even an Allouette II

Square van = Dragonfly but none on the CAA register.

Must be Russian if not a Scout.




NB, I see G-INFO has been updated and reformatted on the CAA website.

[CS-Hover]

hi

how many seats?? (seems to me that we have a quiz :D )

any of this??

http://www.helicoptermuseum.co.uk/aircraft/djinn.jpg
Sud Ouest SO1221 Djinn


http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/foto/gallery/bell/e1_tomcat_1.jpg
Bell E1 Tomcat


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Rotorheads/HillerUH-12.jpg
Hiller UH-12

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Rotorheads/HillerYH-32Hornet.jpg
Hiller YH-32 Hornet

[helicopter-redeye]

Peter, you should check out the Weston Heli Museam site as all the pictures are coming from there!

:oh:

[Vfrpilotpb]

Right O, I will have a check on their site, It wasn't a Dragonfly, Ive sat in one of those at YAM.

Somewhere in the far reaches of my memory I feel it has been on one of the Discovery programs. but , we humans will overcome and give our best, watch this space, or if somone comes up with something else, get it in here!


PeterR-B

[paddyboy]

Perhaps you should post this in the ATC forum as well.

Several Leeds ATCO's post on there regularly and may well have a solution.:)

[Vfrpilotpb]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/Vfrpilotpb/DrwHeli043.jpg


This is a very rough drawing of the shape of said Heli
PeterR-B

[Bomber ARIS]

Your drawing looks like a Bolkow 105DB

[Droopystop]

My first thought at you drawing was a Bolkow 105, but with twin turbs, it can't be. Maybe a Sikorsky R4 (or was it R3)? (If there are any still flying)

[paddyboy]

What about this?

http://xs15.xs.to/pics/05064/47j.jpg
Bell 47J

[steamchicken]

Sure it wasn't a garden shed with two lawnmowers?

[md 600 driver]

peter

It was an Allouette 2 in green. I spoke to the pilot yesterday

steve

[Fortyodd]

Peter,
If I was you, I'd patent that drawing of yours before Wastelands steal it and sell it, at vast expense to the taxpayer, to the MOD as the successor to the Lynx!! ;) ;)

[Vfrpilotpb]

Steve,

Thank you for pointing me into a direction, I ve got square eyes through going through pictures of Helis, I'll now try to chase a picture of the Allouette,

let you all know later,

Bomber it was.nt a B105 despite my saddo drwing looking like one

PeterR-B

[CS-Hover]

Hi

Alouette II , will be this one :)

http://www.team-alouette.ch/gallery/052003/IMG_1318.jpg

almost, your drawing :ok:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/Vfrpilotpb/DrwHeli043.jpg

regards

[Vfrpilotpb]

Back to the drwing board chaps, if thats the Allouette 2 then it wernt it, this is becomming a time consuming problem, but still today is a reasonably quiet one so I will carry on looking.

There must be some body out in Pprune land who saw/or has seen this Helicopter, it was too early in the day for Queen Victoria to have any effect on my vision, and too late in the day for the effects of Morpheous to still be present, one of my pals heard the engine on the telephone so I know its exists,


BUT WHERE?

PeterR-B

[ppheli]

OK, here's an idea

short fuselage = yes
high fixed tail = yes
high tail rotor = yes
three blades = yes
short boom, in comparison = yes
skids from your drawing = no

http://www.vertical-aviation.com/newimages/gallery/CustomerBuilt/unitedkingdom3.jpg

and there is one of these based in Derbyshire. There are two actually, but he keeps the second one for spares.

And before anyone asks, it's a Vertical Aviation Technologies "Hummingbird" based on an old Sikorsky S-52 with a Chevvy engine to give it some "poke".

[rhmaddever]

If its not this one above from ppheli you must have had beer goggles on!!!


My Suggestions:

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Dictionary/helicopter/DI27G2.jpg

or

http://www.usswisconsin.org/Pictures/1950%20Pic/499%20%20J.Parker%20Standby%20to%20Receive%20Helicopter.jpg


or perhaps even a simply huey it matches most of the criteria?

http://www.bellhelicopter.textron.com/images/210_blue_250x185.jpg

What do you think,

Something else that makes me think is the rotorway 162f,
It is also VERY NOISY - in the annoying sense at lowish altitude,

http://www.aerofiles.com/rotorway-scorp.jpg

or

http://www.pra.org/manuimgs/Rotorway%20Exec.jpg

What do you think?

[b.borg]

The following link gives details of ppheli's suspect.
Vertical Aviation Technology (http://www.vertical-aviation.com)

4 seat, kit build helicopter.

None on G-INFO so maybe it is an N-reg ?

[helicopter-redeye]

Bolkow BO105 heading for the bay area gas fields

Allouette III

based on the shaped (neither has piston engine)

or the French Super Frelon (also not piston)

[Vfrpilotpb]

The size was almost the same as the example from PPHeli, but its shape was more square with straight sides no nice curves.

The little yellow thing before the Rotorway has a very similar angle to the tail rotor ,
in my estimation it was at least a three or four seater...

But was a PISTON not a turb.


PeterR-B

[handysnaks]

Wan't one of these was it Peter?
http://www.geocities.com/atwoozle/catalog14.jpg
:rolleyes:

[wg13_dummy]

Lol, handy, I used to have one of those as a kid!!

Maybe this search for the 'Heli Grail' would be easier if we listed what it wasnt?

I'll start off with-

It wasnt a Chinook, Sea Knight, Fairey Rotodyne??

[Vfrpilotpb]

This must be getting to you folks as well as me, ...


Even JDP has had a hand in showing me the way,... whatever the hell it was, it certainly wasnt new more in the region of 30 or 40 years old, the engine was not well silenced and drowned out speech whilst it flew over

Nice to hear from you JD, still got your crews Charity Pin!!

PeterR-B:ok:

[rhmaddever]

My summary so far using all evidence...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/rhmaddever/h1.jpg

Richard

[widgeon]

Cessna SKyhook ??

[Vfrpilotpb]

RH,

Now thats somthing like it,... I wonder if its a new Stealth Heli for the local arm of "Prescotts Gestapo, watching out for country homes being occupied by Non Locals"


Still stumped. could be approaching the time to stop looking up!

PeterR-B

[zeeoo]

mmm It looks like it's a special new helicopter for "apple" watch and big pepperoni pizza delivery :D :D

[Plank Cap]

Piston, skids, high tail rotor, in the UK, slow and ugly. Sounds like a Brantly to me...........

[helicopter-redeye]

Brantley, good point. Or therefore a Bell 47H model (Both on the Weston museam site peter).

And the 47H would be noisy... (piston)

Did you get any response from the ATCOs forum. Somebody may remember it as whatever it was would be a bit unusual.

I recall being mistaken for Concorde once by Leeds Approach when flying an R22 towards Menwith Hill. It was the call sign (G-BOYC, which sounds like G-BOAC, a concorde) rather than the speed. Got a good clearence to Coney though, but controller not sure why a concorde would want to land there ...)

[Say again s l o w l y]

My guess would definately be a Brantly. Funny little things!

[helicopter-redeye]

7 on the G Register.

When trying to search for B47H models on G-INFO I got the following message

An error has occured during the display of this page. The Civil Aviation Authority will be informed of the error.


I assume I'll be prosecuted then ....


:{

[Jack S.]

maybe one of these....
Hiller Ten99
http://www.helispot.com/images/02132.jpg
Bristol Type 171 HR.52 Sycamore
http://www.helispot.com/images/03711.jpg
Hiller FH1100
http://www.helispot.com/images/00224.jpg
Saunders-Roe Skeeter
http://www.helispot.com/images/02874.jpg

[ppheli]

b.borg
Well, they _have_ been some VAT Hummingbirds on the UK register even if they are now on the N reg. I guess the way the CAA described them was little help to us searching, but check these for the evidence G-BVBD (http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?categoryid=60&pagetype=65&applicationid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=G-BVBD) and G-BVBO (http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?categoryid=60&pagetype=65&applicationid=1&mode=detailnosummary&fullregmark=G-BVBO).

However, I've had another brainwave.... About 6 miles east of Blackpool there is a guy who has recently acquired a UH-1H fresh from a big overhaul in the US and it was due in the UK "early this year" and expected to be reg G-UHIH (see lots more details on this at www.huey.co.uk ). The CAA have not registered that yet, but he may be operating it on an N reg for the time being? So...

Dark Green = yes
skids = yes
noisy = yes
high tail = yes
right location = yes
flat sides = yes
30-40 years old = yes
piston = no

http://www.huey.co.uk/gallery01/77.jpg

[chopperpilot47]

Sounds like a Sycamore to me.

Chopperpilot47

[paddyboy]

Don't think Sycamore's were ever fitted with skids.

[skydriller]

Could it be this.....

Sikorsky Hoverfly Mk1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Rotorheads/SikorskyHoverflyMk1.jpg
Though I didnt know there were any flying....

or this.....

Mil Mi-2
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Rotorheads/MilMi-2.jpg

Regards, SD.

OK, I give up, I cant post photos:mad: :mad:


Done.

Heliport

[Vfrpilotpb]

Skydriller,

Has posted a picture that is almost the Heli, (the first link)

Shorten the tail boom, give it skids, and bingo, that was so similar to what I saw above me!

SO WHERE IS IT, and WHAT IS IT


PeterRb:ok:

[Gaseous]

Peter
I just checked the tracks recorded on my GPS.

Between 1441 and 1452 on the day in question I flew between Haslingdon and Hoghton routing more or less along the M65 in my 29 year old 4 cylinder 3 blade silver and blue Enstrom F28A G-BDKD. 2200 ft over Haslingdon descending to 1250 ft over Pleasington. I was happily pottering along at 50-60 MPH.


Its been called some things but never a flying shed before.
Cheeky sod!

The silver bits are hard to see against a grey sky which could give the impression of a high tail boom.

Ill see if I can post a picture of it.
Try this

Enstrom F-28A
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Rotorheads/EnstromF-28A.jpg

or this
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/avenuedentistry/G-BDKD1.jpg

and if you're interested, a picture of it when new

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/avenuedentistry/1976G-BDKD1.jpg

[Hilico]

S*d me Gaseous - do you give advanced courses in confined area landings?

[Gaseous]

Yep. Done it 500 odd times. In all conditions. Eyes closed and elbows in is the preferred technique. (Actually, its not as tight as it looks)

[wg13_dummy]

Confined area? You could get a Sqn of Lynx in there!;) :E

Nice cab Gas all the same.

[Dave_Jackson]

Could skydriller's first photo be ..........

Sikorsky R-4 (VS-316A)
http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/foto/sik_r-4.jpg

Could Vfrpilotpb's be a modified version of this?

[SilsoeSid]

"It almost resembled a Garden shed with a very short yet High fixed tail rotor, and a small diameter main rotor I think it had three blades , was powered by what sounded to be a four cylider piston and was getting along nicely at about 50 /60 knots.

It was darkish green or blue (silhouetted) and looked in good nick flying at about 350/450 ft, looked very ancient."

I believe this is what you are looking for VFR pilot.

According to 'Variety', they are now in production of another Thomas the Tank Engine film, this time involving Harold.

Harold was travelling "towards either Blackpool(Egnh) or Liverpool(Eggp)", as this is the area in which the coastal scenes will be filmed.


http://store1.yimg.com/I/kindertrains_1831_33227352

[rhmaddever]

VFR

Did you ever consider it could be a homebuild and that we may never find it ....God help us!

RHM

[MightyGem]

Ahh Silsoe, it's been quiet lately. Been busy down your neck of the woods??

[Vfrpilotpb]

Gas,

I think your Enstrom is brilliant, and I certainly would not call that a Shed, I would love to own one that looked as nice, but sadly it isn't the one I saw, the one that Dave Jackson has offered is very near to it, but it had skids not wheels and the tailboom was shorter.

Does landing in your garden not blow hell out of the plants!


RHM, yes I have thought of that but it seemed such a regular "Old Fashioned Shape" if you see what I mean that I thought it would be easy to track down, seems quiet possibly a new Stealth type. with my background on engines I know it was a Piston and 4 cylinders at that!

PeterR-B

[SilsoeSid]

Perhaps this;

It almost resembled a Garden shed with a very short yet High fixed tail rotor, (angular illusion!), and a small diameter main rotor I think it had three blades , was powered by what sounded to be a four cylider piston and was getting along nicely at about 50 /60 knots.

It was darkish green or blue and looked in good nick flying at about 350/450 ft, looked very ancient."

http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/~bat/GA/OT-MODEL/cj-spectrum-helicopter-1.jpg

Filming starts soon for the forthcoming Captain Scarlet film. :)



WG-13;

"Confined area? You could get a Sqn of Lynx in there!"

The last Lynx Squadron I was in was very short of Lynx ! Despite this,we also had to share them with the other Squadron! :ok:


Mighty Gem;
It was that time of year!:{

[Vfrpilotpb]

I feel that my task is almost impossible, the picture that DJ has posted is so similar to the front of the Heli I saw, but the tail rotor was shorter, and ended by being elevated to the point of axis for the t/r, but there didn't appear to be any ladder structures free from skinning, I have used the telephone also to ask many of my farming pals (who I assume this Heli would have flown over) who alway look up upon hearing any heli, thinking the Tea Blagger is here aagin! only to draw a blank non have seen it, so I am stumped for where to go from here.

All I would like to say is thank you all for your efforts, If, and when I do find this heli and can identify it I will post the info on the best Forum in the Flying World - Pprune/Rotorheads

my regards

PeterR-B Vfr

[md 600 driver]

i read today that a switzer 333 has been bought by total for pipeline works to be based nr sheffield . that aircraft looks like a shed with a stubby tail , but it is a turbine

peter your eyes may be ok but how is your hearing


steve

[SilsoeSid]

MD 600,

http://www.planepix.com/resources/photos/Scuweitzer.333_01_MRR471.md.jpg

Schweitzer 333

Wasn't this type modified to be an UAV working off ships?

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/firescout/images/firescout_3.jpg


firescout (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/firescout/)

The Fire Scout air vehicle is based on the Schweitzer 330 commercial lightweight manned utility helicopter.

(guess I answered my own question.)

[helicopter-redeye]

It hath not a piston engine ...

(apart from that, def. a flying shed)

:ok:

[wg13_dummy]

Ok, going on your descriptions, how about this???
http://www.dazeofourlives.com/flyingshed.gif

[SilsoeSid]

WG13,

Sir, I salute you on your post. You have made a wet soggy day so much better.

EGBB 170920Z 29007KT 1800 -SHRA BKN002 06/05 Q1026 WG13 LAFF OWT LOWD

However, no doubt we will now be told the shed in question had a sloping roof!

SS.

[Vfrpilotpb]

WG 13


Nearly, However the T/R was elevated rather than drooping down,:D

PeterRB

[FlightOops]

This thread has been cracking me up - the creativity of ppruners never fails to amaze me !!

Have you seen the recent thread re: Newcastle / Gateshead (Helicopter activity NE UK ) ?

There are a couple of German Mil. Helis taking off from the pad next to the river which sound similar to what has been described over the previous 5 pages.

I must confess I don't know what they are (don't get out of the Ops office much and my window looks at a carpark !) ... but a possibility nonetheless.

Ps - LOVED the flying shed !! This is what the forums should be like - not slanging matches !!!

[Bravo73]

FlightOops,

If I'm not mistaken, those are German Mil versions of the Bolkow 105 which was mentioned, and discredited, way back here (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162630&perpage=15&pagenumber=2).

My money's on wg13_dummy being right.


Regards,

B73

[SilsoeSid]

I can't find a picture of it all together, but I am now getting visions of Lionel Jeffries singing P.O.S.H out of the open door of his potting shed in 'Chitty Chitty Bang Bang'.

I believe the airship had two 3 bladed props at either end of it, so if viewed from the side, it could possibly appear to be a helicopter. (prior to Vfrpilots visit to 'Specsavers').

http://unsinkablecork.com/chitty/images/courtyard.jpg

http://unsinkablecork.com/chitty/images/grandpa_hut.jpg

Perhaps another remake of a popular family film in progress?

[g0kmt]

Has anyone considered a Russian built heli that has slab sides but contra rotating rotor with H tail. can't remember type but looks like a shed. :)

Can't be a true Shed cos that a plank (Fixed wing) :)

[Bomber ARIS]

Do you mean the Kamov Ka-32

http://www.helispot.com/images/01493.jpg

[jellycopter]

Peter,

Could it have been a Silvercraft SH4?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Rotorheads/SilvercraftSH-4.jpg

Seems to match most of your criteria and there are a few flying in Europe.

J

[Vfrpilotpb]

Jelly ,


Ya -Hoo, paint it dark green or blue and thats the one I am nearly certain.

Is it "Old" or just rare?


Thank you Jelly I had nearly given up!


PeterRB

[Encyclo]

How about the good old one bladed helicopter:ok:


http://www.internetage.com/rotorcraft/bolkow/bo-103_03b.jpg

Oh yes, and saw this driving through Mojave last week:confused: :confused: :confused:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/magnan3/Mojave.jpg

Any idea what movie we will be seing this in?

[ShyTorque]

Hang on a mo... Dark green or blue?

We're not talking ex AAC Scout / Navy Wasp are we? The shape is certainly very similar to the Silvercraft.

http://www.freefoto.com/preview.jsp?id=22-26-3&k=Westland+Scout+AH.1+Helicopter+-+RAF+Leuchars+Airshow

Aah! just noticed T&B already suggested it, but there is at least one Scout on the civvie register.

[Flingwing207]

Hey Encyclo,

That Mojave ship is from the movie "The 6th Day" (Schwarzenegger, 2000).
Image here (I hope) (http://www.totaldvd.net/cgi-bin/makeimage.php?image=6thDay/6thDayR2Japan_3.jpg)

[SilsoeSid]

ShyTorque,

According to G-INFO (http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?categoryid=60&pagetype=65&applicationid=1) , these are the registered Scouts in the UK

Reg/Serial No/Type/photo

G-BWHU R F9517 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-BWJW R F9705 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-BXRR R F9740 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1
G-BXRS R F9741 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-BYKJ R F9696 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-BYRX R F9640 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1
G-CBUH R F9475 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1
G-CRUM R F9712 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-KAXL R F9715 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-NOTY R F9630 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-ONEB R F9761 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-SCTA R F9701 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes
G-SROE R F9508 WESTLAND SCOUT AH1 Yes

Could easily be mistaken for Jellycopters Silvercraft don't you think?

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/GImages/G-NOTY002.jpg

Just checked.

No \'Silvercraft SH4\', \'Silvercraft\' or \'SH4\' registered in UK.

All registered SH-4 s can be found here (http://www.dgualdo.it/prod-sh4.htm) .

SS

[Vfrpilotpb]

SSS,

Was a piston powered craft, not a turb, but I agree the profile is very similar, the Silvercraft looks quite a strong little craft especially with its six potter, doubt again in my mind for I was certain the sound denoted a 4 pot engine, unless this six cylinder job has a strange pipe system!


PeterRB
Vfr

[SilsoeSid]

I guess this will remain a mystery, especially as vfrpilot is now convinced it was a Silvercraft. (which only has 2 blades and a low mounted tail rotor, contrary to the recognition features given!) :suspect:

However, a little more searching found these movements,

Blackpool (http://www.btinternet.com/~poolfc/mov0205.htm) on the day in question;

Tuesday 08 February 2005

Aircraft I.D. Aircraft Type Code Arr Dep Flight I.D. Notes From To

EI-CSE B738 0733 0805 FR 2752/275H - Stansted Stansted
- SWM 0756 0900 CPH 010/011 - Le Havre Le Havre
G-VSBC Be 200 1050 1541 VSB 02 - - -
EC-IDT B738 1053 1207 AEA 235/236 - Tenerife South Tenerife South
G-AVGI PA 28 1109 1148 - - - -
G-JDBC PA 34 1223 1607 JD 01W/Y/Z Training - -
G-OOGS GA-7 ILS 1225 - - - -
XX230 Hawk ILS 1415 VYT 45 - - -
G-RVRA PA 28 1507 n/s - To Pool Av'n - -
G-BOGC Ce 152 n/s 1531 - - - -
G-BTFF Ce 310 1701 n/s - - - -
EI-DAZ B738 2011 2044 FR 2756/2757 - Stansted Stansted


Manchester (http://www.ringwayreports.co.uk/feb05other.htm) non-scheduled.

Tuesday 8 February 2005

Aircraft I.D. Aircraft Type Operator Flight I.D. Arr Dep Notes

9H-AEI A320 Air Malta KM 4218 n/s 06:11 -
G-CELA B737 Jet 2 LS 811 n/s 06:44 -
N527EW Ce 501 Executive AVB 5EW 08:39 n/s -
N815PA CL 604 Executive - 09:19 11:2x Farnborough Weather Diversion
G-SFSG Beech 90 Private - 09:56 - -
G-OLDF LJ 45 Executive GDA 72C/72D 12:35 17:19 -
G-CELA B737 Jet 2 LS 812 12:59 - -
9H-AEI A320 Air Malta KM 4219 15:22 - -
G-CELA B737 Jet 2 LS 809 - 15:37 -
E3-AAO B763 Eritrean Airlines ERT 1120 18:04 - -
CS-DKA G4 Executive NJE 008P 18:48 n/s -
EI-DAT B738 Ryanair FR 558/559 20:58 21:40 -
G-CELA B737 Jet 2 LS 810 21:59 - -
475 C130 Hercules Saudi Air Force RSAF 901 - n/s -
CS-DNV BAe 125 Executive - n/s n/s -
SE-RDF MD 80 Viking Airlines - n/s n/s -
B-18708 B744F China Airlines Cargo - n/s n/s -

but of course it could have been going anywhere. :(


Although it does seem strange that an unknown Italian, French, Brazilian or even South African registered single engined piston powered, light helicopter should find itself on the way to the north of England. I'm surprised that nobody here knows about it. :hmm:

Happy searching,

Sherlock Sid ;)

[Vfrpilotpb]

Sherlock,

I am impressed beyond belief, do you work for some secret gove depot or something like that,

Now then the thlot plickens, today I have seen the very helicopter that flew over my office, today the sun was shinning el mucho so this thing stood out well, it is blue with a silver streak it is slab sided and has a short boom with a cranked and elevated Tail rotor, but this is where I fear I may have been wrong it sounded today more like a turbine, but with a very noisey tail rotor system, it also appeared to have a very wide cab possibly capable of three abreast seating, it flew West to East, and later in reverse track, I feel that I have seen this at the Helitech last Sept and I think it was giving rides to prospective cutomers, so It may not be the "Old Machine" I think it is. It is on Skids as well

Is there a big Schweiser like I am describing!!??

PeterRB:O :O ;)

[Bomber ARIS]

Schweizer 333

http://www.sacusa.com/gallery/333_SAPD_Arena.jpg

[SilsoeSid]

Only one registered in the UK.

Seen at Barton
http://www.edendale.co.uk/ANW/thumbnails/thGTAME.110205.jpg
G-TAME Schweizer 333
11 February 2005
© Paul Tomlin
http://www.edendale.co.uk/ANW/BTN.HG12.html

G-INFO Record Number: 1 of 1 Search Again
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Registration: G-TAME Current Reg. Date: 10/01/2005
Previous ID: N2119S First Reg. Date: 10/01/2005
Status: Registered De-Reg. Date:
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Manufacturer: SCHWEIZER AIRCRAFT CORPORATION
Type: SCHWEIZER 269D
Serial No.: 0035A
Mode S (hex):
Popular Name: SCHWEIZER 333
Generic Name: 269
Aircraft Class: HELICOPTER
Engines: 1 - 1 x ALLISON 250-C20W
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Ownership Status: Owned
Registered Owners: TOTAL AIR MANAGEMENT SERVICES LTD
SUITE D2, TERMINAL BUILDING
SHEFFIELD CITY AIRPORT, EUROPA LINK
SHEFFIELD
S9 1XZ
UNITED KINGDOM
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MTOW: 1159kg Total Hours: Year Built: 2004
C of A Category: EASA STANDARD COFA C of A Expiry: 24/01/2008

[Droopy]

It may be of no relevance Peter, but while we were at the Burnley game on Sunday watching various East Lancastrians beat seven bells out of each other in pub beer gardens there was a helicopter diddling around Pendle, Whalley area at low level. If they Prune and recognise themselves could it they have been one and the same?

[Thud_and_Blunder]

I read in Flight International that John Tickener's outfit have bought several (4?) of these 333s for their powerline inspection contract. You might be seeing a few more of these around, Peter.

[helicopter-redeye]

Them new Schwitzer turbine thingy's is gonna be based at Sheffield (in hanger 1).

But perhaps it was a Scout after all ....

:rolleyes:

[SilsoeSid]

My money, @ 13/1 (registered a/c), is on a Scout.

Leather seats and a Rolls Royce engine, still the Queen of the skies. :ok:

Now then, if Vfrpilotpb can get some sort of picture next time its around.......:ok:

SS

[helicopter-redeye]

perhaps you could have that Gazelle standing ready to chase it Peter.

h-r

;)