Flybe

[Fellow Aviator]

I received a letter today from Flybe. They said that my CV will be put on file. Has anyone received a call to an interview after a letter of this kind, or is this a kind no-thanks?

[jamestkirk]

Yeah, i have a plethora of flybe letters all saying 'up yours, but thanks'.

happy days

[Snigs]

I've had a few of these, I guess it means keep flying and send us another in 6 months!

[Ex Oggie]

Standard FlyBe PFO letter, I have a ring binder full.

But at least they do reply, and do actually keep details on file, so I have been assured. So one day, you never know, we might just get that life changing telephone call out of the blue.

[TDK mk2]

Even with over 2000 multi crew turbo prop hours I got one of these

[moku]

I have several also. I have 3000TT and still get them.

If their workforce is made of people similar to those I know there, then maybe I'm better off not being there! :E

Has anyone ever had a nice thing to say about DD?

:ok:

[Rizla2002]

I've received my first one today...
since i'm a low hours fATPL i think it will be the first but not the last....sob..:ugh:

[WX Man]

Well, I got one too. No sobbing, too busy (A) doing an instructors rating; and (B) sending out other letters. Flybe's loss, not mine.

Chin up people... our time will come!

[impartial]

i handed DD a completed application form in person when he visited Oxford in September 01. completed IR november 01. many cvs and letters later i have now been with flybe a year. so keep on trying.

If you build it they will come

[tomcs]

Hi guys,

Dont be disheartened!!

I was lucky enough to be selected for the Q400 last month and we're now in toronto doing out type rating, currently doing the groundschool phase.

We have it right next door to the bombardier factory and there was a big screen up saying that flybe have just ordered another 20 Q400s so they obviously have expansion plans!

Just keep plugging those cvs

Happy hunting!

Tom

[Rizla2002]

Flybe's loss, not mine


Well said, mate, well said!;)

[Hudson Bay]

There have been more resignations today so get your CV's in. Interveiws being held all day tomorrow so hurry up, get on the phone or get yourself to Exeter and hand in your details.

[Fellow Aviator]

Well done tomcs!

Do you know if they have lately recruited low-hour guys (<300h)?

Good luck to all! :ok:

[Drew Peacock]

Does anyone know how many Q400 courses Flybe are running per month, and perhaps when there is likely to be available places?

[jamestkirk]

Anyone have an idea of what they are looking for. From the responses on this thread there does not seem to be a generic employment philosophy.

That was my observation through the differing threads about flybe and not any of your feedback anyone.

I know there has been alot written about age (got to be 20'ish) but thats about as far as i can make out the message.

If anyone has any information about this it would be interesting.

What i am trying to say is; is it a CV lottery or do they actually look for laid down character attributes, as percieved through your CV.

I know there is someone on pprune under the name of 'flybe.com' and i assume he/she is an employee (I should have been a detective).

If you know, please let me know as i believe that a little insight may go a long way when sending the 'please give me a job or i will go into the porn film industry as an extra....again ' letter.

Thanks
JTK

[tomcs]

Hi again,

In answer to the age theory, it doesn't seem to factor because there are 30+ ers here in toronto!

They take a wide range of experience...quite a few low hours (<300) guys aswell!

Good Luck

Tom

[sam_flying]

Blimey, I have sent loads of CV's over time and never even had a PFO letter! I must be doing something wrong!!

Even had a CV handed in by recommendation a few weeks ago, followed it up with a phone call.....and still nothing.

What do I have to do???

sam_flying

[headyheights]

What is the problem with flybe.
I have 1100hrs TT, 700 multi crew jet and I can't get a peep out of them. I also had an inside recomendation yet nothing has come of it.

I know flybe are going down to oxford/cabair etc but what about the guys that have gone through the S%*T and got some very valid experience.

I would love to fly for flybe, it is a company that I really think would suit me. I would take the job tommorrow. I know in other forums there is alot of bad ora's about flybe but trust me from where I come from flybe is heaven.

There are many experienced people with valid hrs under their belt that are not getting a look in. Instead flybe are not spending time looking at CV's but just taking the easy option and going down to oxford/cabair and creaming the candidates. However are these less experienced people without jet time or commercial line experience going to be so cost effective to train and bring up to speed online etc?

Shout me down if I am wrong but I would consider flybe a desired working environment not just a stepping stone.

[Tea White None]

The problem with Flybe is that they have completely messed up the numbers for recruiting. Apparently they got an idea that a shed load of crews were off to other airlines and therefore started recruiting accordingly to fill these potential gaps. In the cold light of day, most of these alleged vacancies have not not come about and there are quite a few from Oxford and Crapair that were initially selected for employment and now in some kind of holding pool.

On top of that they also managed to hack offwhat crews remaned by offering 146 slots to new joiners ahead of those already employed. Sounds to me that there are a few issues within so tred carefully whenever Flybe are mentioned!

[judewatt]

Fellow Aviator

Which part of Flybe did you apply for?

I'm still hoping for a response for the BHD recruit

Jude

[Push to talk]

flybe personnel are for some reason quite proficient in messing up a lot of things and are so well organized that it has happened several times in the past that they send out letters to people saying that they were unfortunately unsuccesfull in their application while these people were already working 6 months or 1 year for the company. Says it all I guess. Unless you are cabair it is the luck of the draw if you get hired or not. As some say that being persistant helps is nonsense in this case. It is all about pure luck here.

Cheers

Ptt

[CaptainProp]

Guys...With the amount of app's out there why don´t you just take a day off, take your CV and drive down to the office??

Good luck to all of you wannabes!! Your time WILL come!

[Crosswind Limits]

Who is the main point of contact at Flybe? Is it Don Darby? I understand it used to be George Dunn.

Unfortunately I don't live close enough to just turn up with my cv.

Thanks.

[Megaton]

Don't think turning up with your cv is the answer. Those responsible for recruiting are busy enough and I would suggest that they are more than busy enough without dealing with cold-callers. You won't help yourself.

[Smokie]

Heard through the Grape vine (quite a tough one though) that not too long ago they were overwhelmed with CV's and BINNED them all.
Very shortsighted if you ask me, as they should have formed a holding pool like BA, Virgin, Brits, A2000 etc did.
They are now in the deep and sticky.

Anyone who sent in CV's within the last few months and not heard anything, I would strongly suggest you try again and again and again.


They need crews YESTERDAY!

Good Luck:ok:

[Maude Charlee]

They already have about 60 or so guys in their holding pool after the recent interviews, but certainly worth a punt. After all, I doubt anyone in the pool has given up searching elsewhere, and they are still losing people to boot. Nice healthy little recruitment opportunity.

[Yorkshire-Pud]

In defence of Don, (and in my limited experience) he's one of only a handful of bloke's who actually bothers to call you back when you leave him a voicemail message, an all round nice chap who doesn't deserve the bad press. (no i don't work for flybe)

I heard just yesterday that they were having trouble crewing the next couple of months - so maybe now is the time to make the call

[Snigs]

I've just had the offer of a job, I start in a week's time. So if I can, then so can you.

[Tallbloke]

Snigs

Is there any danger of you telling the rest of us the answer to some of the questions above? Are you "older", or low hours or did you do a modular course? Positive answers to any of the above would encourage some who come here for succour. :ok:

And many congratulations by the way, I have completely forgotten my manners today

[Flypuppy]

Snigs is dead old. Even older than me, and I cant remember my 30th birthday anymore.

Congratulations Snigs :ok:

[Jaxx]

hi snigs

I read that you have been offered a job with flybe.

I have passed the interview recently and am waiting for a call for a sim grading appointment.

have you done a simulator grading with them prior to your job offer? If so, can I ask you when you did it?

The reason I ask you this is that I have been waiting for a while now and heard nothing. So I was wondering whether they are sim checking people as we speak or not.

thanks!

Jaxx

[Maude Charlee]

Definitely sim checking people at present, but it is going to be a long, slow process. The sim is pretty busy as I understand it, and as I'm sure you will appreciate, there are more interested parties than the flybe wannabees. There have been type rating courses running for flybe's own 146 crew conversions, and I know that Flightline too will shortly be after the sim (if they haven't got it already) for sim checks and type rating courses.

There is also little point in sim checking absolutely everybody who passed the interviews right now, as flybe simply don't have the capacity to get you through their own training programmes, regardless of whether they actually have a vacancy to put you in. It is much more likely that you will be left in the holding pool (even though nobody has probably officially told you that you are in the holding pool), until such time that they have both sim slots and training capacity, and only then when it is most relevant, will your current ability be assessed.

Painful I know, but patience is a virtue. After well over 2 years, I can easily wait several months. I'm sure you can too.

[Jaxx]

thanks MC

just hope to be in somewhere on the top of their list...

by the way, bit off topic but well worth asking: My IR recurrency check is coming up and I wondered whether the airlines prefer you do this check on fnpt II or in a real aircraft. There is some conciderable saving there if you do it on FNTP II. Can't see how this would be a problem on the sim, except for that you lose your MECR.

any of you guys have researched this?

cheers

[jarjam]

Jaxx,
Save yourself some money and do it the cheapest way you can. I dont think flybe care a dot as long as you have a current IR, (and even that aint so critical).
When I was in the holding pool 18 months ago I called up the fleet manager (Great Guy) to ask if he recommended that I keep my IR current, he said he didnt care as long as when I started I was in current flying practice.

Its up to you.

[joe]

How about saving the cash and not renewing, you don't need to have it current according to Lasors unless you fancy doing some SPA-IR that is!

Rgds

[haughtney1]

Well done sniggs!:D

[ltn and beyond]

Jaxx, Giving yourself the best chance in the sim may involve some practice, therefore why not renew your IR at the same time?. The Q400 course has seen people struggleing and Flybe know this, so they will not be selecting wannabees that cannot demonstraight IR proficency, now they have a pool to pick from.

Unofficially i was told be a very reliable source, (albeit a couple of years ago) anyone more than 6 months out the flight deck or not IR current is not prefered as a new hire.

Best of luck to you all, Great guys and girls on board... but very diffficult times now and ahead !!!!

[wobblyprop]

joe,

That's not what the airlines think or indeed CAA FCL.

A multi ir is only valid for 12 months. And you must a valid IR for your first type rating.

I've phoned FCL to clarify this as the Airline i'm starting with said I needed to get a valid IR before I start.

Now I'm not sure where the word "current " came from. I think your rating is only valid for 1 year.

[Snigs]

Ok here goes.

To all that are modular trained (as I am), old (in my case 39) and low hours (in my case circa 550), then it is not all doom and gloom.

How did I get noticed? In a nutshell networking, hard work and patience. I've had a frozen ATPL for three and a half years, but I haven't sat on my backside and done nothing. It won't come to you, you have to go out and get it.

Good luck.

[EGAC_Ramper]

Cheers Snigs:ok: good to know about modular trained peeps.

Just about to start my modular groundschool thru Oxford then flying to be done with Bristol Flying Centre.Hoping to finish next January/February and,maybe a surprise I do wish to fly for FlyBE and have worked for 3 years at BHD and met many FlyBE staff.Hopefully my plan will come to fruition early next year!:D


Regards

P.S.keep the posts coming as I'm finding them most useful

[jamestkirk]

EGAC

Your doing what i did last year: Oxford groundschool and BFC flight training.

Both places very good.

If you don't already know people at BFC. Then Nasib Otaqui and Rowan are great IR instructors.

When doing the CPL, the re is a part time instructor called stuart mcmanus. He is excellent, but as said part time.

Everyone friendly and helpful, so enjoy!

[Prickie]

I've noticed other posts saying that they are in the holding pool for Flybe but have heard nothing.

Does it look like weeks or months that we will have to wait for a sim check / job offer ?

I am holding on from getting a part time job as I don't want to have to give a start date a month after Flybe want me finally, but am seriously low on cash (actually I don't have any, but I owe lots !!)

Anybody on the inside know what's going on !

Cheers

P

[Maude Charlee]

Prickie,

Not on the inside, but I am in the sitauation of waiting to hear like yourself. It could be a very long wait, and obviously sim success is not a guarantee. Take what you can right now, and work around it when the time comes to move on. Pointless turning down much needed money when you have no idea at all how long you will have to struggle along without it. Also, even when you do finally start, it will be a long wait for that first pay day, and I'm sure there will be plenty of living expenses to meet in the meantime, so get the money in the bank while you can.

As for the holding pool, I don't think anybody has had any official notice from flybe actually stating as much, but it is effectively the situation you are in as I suspect you have been informed of a 'provisional' offer of employment, although this too may not actually have been officially notified from flybe.

[nomercy]

Did anyone see that FLYBE item in flight training news. I have seen some bull in my time but that takes the biscuit. They were
claiming that they recruit pilots who will stay with the company -
what about the 40 who have just left ? - DD claims that they
always recruit the right people, so why have so many failed the
dash course ? . I know plenty of good guys with some experience
who would probably stay with the company and make good captains who have been overlooked. DD has lost the plot - too old

[Delta Wun-Wun]

err.....I think there is one who posted above you:8 :8

[Megaton]

And me! CLoser to 40 years old than 30.

[papazulu]

Hi everybody...

Is anyone of those who got a positive reply by Flybe willing to share their experience? First of all where and who to send your CV? E-mail or snail-mail? First impression still count, doesn't it?

Happy landings

PZ:ok:

[smudge10]

Can anyone tell me what the current rostering is on the Q400, eg... days on, off and standby plus the current bases being positioned to as a new F/O?

I understand that rostering is likely to be subject to change at the moment but a rough idea would be helpful.

Thanx

[Addy]

Exactly how many of the Cabair students who had an interview last month were hired? And how many people attended? I was supposed to be there, but only heard it a couple of days in advance, which wasn't enough for me to arrange the trip to the UK unfortunately...I did send an email to flyBE saying I should've been there, but all I got was the standard 'we'll keep you on file' letter...

[Snigs]

From what I understand the plan is to roster something like 5/2 5/2 5/3...... but that's not concrete.

[Megaton]

Finishing on a late....starting on an early. :{

[flybe.com]

Snigs - We dream of such a pattern!!!:{

[Smokie]

6 on 2 off, 6 on 2 off......................................................... ..........
Oh and yes, you finish on late and start on an early.:mad:

With the ongoing Chaos during Check in - check out they are going to have to make it a 90 min check in and a 60 min check out :E

[Snigs]

Errm, well, yes...... I did say the plan was that, but probably not until the recent intake of FO's are up to speed, perhaps late summer time, or did I just see a pig land on my garden tree!! :(