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Wirraway
12th Jan 2005, 14:35
Thurs "Sydney Morning Herald"

Bigger role for budget carrier
By Scott Rochfort
January 13, 2005

Qantas subsidiary Australian Airlines is pushing for its flight attendants to fly longer routes, prompting speculation the Flying Kangaroo wants to cede more of its struggling international routes to the low-cost carrier it established in 2002.

Talks between Australian Airlines and the Flight Attendants Association over a new enterprise bargaining agreement have hit a snag, partly over the airline's plans to tear up an agreement which restricts its 300 flight attendants to fly only to destinations which, in terms of international time zones, are within four hours of Cairns.

"That obviously means their intention is to fly their crews longer range and, if that's the case, the crews have to be remunerated like other long-haul cabin crews," said the secretary of the FAAA's International Division, Michael Mijatov.

Australian's cabin crews are paid a maximum salary of $40,000 a year, and the FAAA wants an extra two pay brackets with 4 per cent increments.

The talks breakdown has raised fears of strike action, with Australian failing to compromise on the FAAA's request for crews to "bid" for work as do their Qantas mainline counterparts, as opposed to being allocated rosters.

There is talk Australian is looking at taking over Qantas services to Honolulu (which is four hours from Cairns - not within four hours in terms of time zone) and even introducing services to India (4 ½ hours behind).

Mr Mijatov said the union would not oppose the removal of the four-hour time-zone cap if the airline offered better pay rates.

The airline's destinations from Australia include Hong Kong, Singapore, Sabah, Bali and the Japanese cities of Tokyo, Sapporo, Fukuoka, Osaka and Nagoya.

"It's just unfortunate that Australian Airlines management have adopted an inflexible approach to the outstanding issues," Mr Mijatov said.

"If they proceed with that attitude it's highly likely that cabin crews will have no alternative but to take industrial action."

Qantas head of human resources Kevin Brown said he found it "utterly puzzling" the FAAA would not agree to the removal of the time-zone cap, given it would open up new growth opportunities and markets for Australian.

Mr Brown said Australian's fleet of five 767-300s had the range to fly well beyond the four-hour time zone limit but he added the airline had no immediate plans to expand its routes.

As for the union's claims for better pay in return for working on longer flights, Mr Brown said: "They already get paid to work certain hours. This is by the hour, not by length of trip."

The union says Australian's crews received 30 per cent less pay for the hours they worked than their Qantas counterparts.

Mr Brown said Australian had offered its flight crews a 3 per cent yearly pay rise, but would not buckle on the FAAA's push for crews to have the freedom to choose ("bid") for their rosters.

"These are very complex systems that we've got to put in place and they are extraordinarily expensive to maintain," he said.

Qantas also expressed disappointment the FAAA was talking to the Herald about the unresolved talks. "Certainly it was a surprise for me that they have chosen to go public," Mr Brown said.

There is also a possibility Qantas could hand over its fleet of ageing 747-300s to help Australian's expansion.

CommSec analyst Matt Crowe said Australian's expansion plans might have been reinvigorated by Jetstar's success in taking over Qantas's low-yielding domestic leisure-oriented routes.

"They [Qantas] have got to look at addressing some of the areas where they do not make money and putting in low-cost services is one way of doing it," he said.

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Wirraway
13th Jan 2005, 04:52
Airline Business magazine
Jan 2005

Australian Eyes Europe

Australian Airlines, the low-cost international arm of Qantas, is looking to extend it's reach beyond Asia when it starts replacing its Boeing 767 fleet.

Australian operates five all-economy 767-300s on Asian leisure routes where yields are too low for Qantas to make money. At the end of January Australian will replace Qantas on the Perth-Denpasar (Bali) route, adding yet another Asian destination to it's network.

Australian's 767s are on lease to Qantas from British Airways and Qantas has subleased them on to Australian. Peter Gregg, Qantas chief financial officer, says the BA leases are nearing maturity. When they do, Gregg predicts that Australian will look for a longer-range replacement aircraft. "The 767s limit Australian's ability to fly to certain markets," he says. "An aircraft with longer legs might open up new routes, such as Lebanon and Greece, which have traditionally been strong markets for Australians," Gregg predicts.

Australian could add destinations in that region in that region in the same way it has in Asia, by taking over routes that Qantas has withdrawn or plans to withdraw due to low yields. Gregg views these as more likely candidates for Australian's expansion than transpacific routes to North America, where Qantas operates profitably. Qantas has carefully avoided competition between the parent airline and Australian in any markets.

Mediterranean destinations would bring a shift in Australian's marketing strategy. So far it has focused on inbound leisure traffic, but routes to that region would appeal more to independent and group travel out of Australia.

Any expansion towards Europe opens up other route options. The most likely ones would be those European cities where Qantas has reduced or dropped service due to low yields. Australian might also operate fifth freedom flights to Europe via Asia. Now that Qantas has re-entered China, where it holds fifth freedom rights to much of Europe, the Qantas group is actively analysing whether some Australia-China-Europe routes might suit Australian Airlines better then Qantas.

The two-year-old low-cost airline's initial success points to a likelihood of it entering new markets in the near future. According to Gregg: "Australian bears close watching".

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Wirraway
13th Jan 2005, 07:20
AAP

Airline staff may strike over pay
Date: 13/01/05 16:15 AEDT
By Samantha Baden and Amy Coopes

Cabin crew at Australian Airlines could be on strike within a week because of a pay and rostering dispute.

Enterprise bargaining agreement (EBA) negotiations between the Flight Attendants Association of Australia (FAAA) and Qantas, the parent company of Australian Airlines, have broken down.

FAAA spokesman Michael Mijatov said a strike may soon be called.

"It could happen as early as next week," Mr Mijatov said.

"We want further discussion with the company to resolve these issues ... we may call those (stopwork) meetings and ask what further action they (the staff) want to take."

The previous EBA ran out on December 31 and the union is attempting to negotiate a new three year deal.

But Qantas accused the FAAA of "holding a gun" to consumers heads, and said they would not concede to the union's demands.

"(The union's) asks are unsustainable and impossible for us to respond to," Qantas' head of corporate communications Kevin Brown told AAP.

"We had understood the union were going to come back and were going to give us some feedback on the position that we had put on the table.

"We set up a meeting and then, somewhat to our surprise, they chose to go out to the media and put a gun to the customer's head, frankly."

While Qantas was hopeful negotiations could resume, Mr Brown said the airline would not concede to Australian Airlines staff demands, including better control of their rosters and a 17 per cent payrise over three years.

"We're not going to give them the payrise they're asking for, we're not going to give them the bidding system where staff determine where they fly and when they fly," he said.

Mr Mijatov said Australian Airlines was the only airline where cabin crew did not have any control over their rosters.

He said the union was also asking for a total eight per cent pay rise for cabin staff as a result of the time zones they must cross on domestic and international flights.

"The other primary issue is that they started out two years ago as a start-up airline and they started up on the basis of using six or seven aircraft, being a one class aircraft," he said.

"The other restriction is that they were only allowed to have four time changes (a shift), and that is to Cairns and WA.

"Now the company wants to lift that restriction so that they can fly anywhere.

"We don't have a problem with that, but with lifting that restriction means that they are obviously concentrating their cabin crew to do more long range kind of work and we say that they should be remunerated accordingly."

Mr Brown said he would not let customers be held hostage by the union.

"I will take whatever steps necessary to ensure that doesn't happen," he said.

"Certainly the rhetoric at the moment says anything but resolution, in the midst of unrealistic demands and, frankly, threatening behaviour towards our customers.

"But I hope commonsense will prevail ... the door is always open."

Approximately 300 cabin crew work for Australian Airlines, which was formed in October 2002 as a Cairns-based budget international airline, carrying passengers between Australia and a range of Asian destinations.

Copyright © 2005 AAP

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Keg
13th Jan 2005, 09:25
Australian's 767s are on lease to Qantas from British Airways and Qantas has subleased them on to Australian. Peter Gregg, Qantas chief financial officer, says the BA leases are nearing maturity.

Hmmm. Bit of journolistic license being exercised on this one! AO don't have ANY of the BA lease 767s! They have QF 'mainline' 767s. That said, the 7 Rollers worth of capacity will still need to be replaced when the lease expires (next year?!?!). 7E7s for AO? :p

Realistically, either the leases will be extended or we'll be ordering at least seven aircraft in May (or whenever it is that it is going to be announced one way or another!). Why AO would want take on the classics though when the 777 can operate for a truck load less per punter has me stuffed! Perhaps that one is a bit of journolistic license as well! :} :E

RaTa
13th Jan 2005, 20:39
"There is talk Australian is looking at taking over Qantas services to Honolulu (which is four hours from Cairn-not within four hours in terms of time zone)"


Obviously Mr Rochfort believes that Australian will be buying something a fair bit quicker than the 76 or 747 to do it in four hours.

I think it must have been a slow day for the jouros or someone from Australian publicity department has been feeding them bull****.

chimbu warrior
13th Jan 2005, 21:39
Gee...............the big tsunami must have moved Cairns a lot closer to Honolulu. By my calculations it is over 4,000 nm, so unless the boys in AO are really bending the throttles, I doubt that you could do the trip in 4 hours!

sandpit
13th Jan 2005, 22:50
Aren't they talking about time zones, not flight time?

RaTa
13th Jan 2005, 23:34
sandpit

Yes they are talking about time zones, however chimbu and I picked up on the SMT article by Scott Rochfort stating that HNL was four hours from CNS. More like 8-9 hours!

Eastwest Loco
15th Jan 2005, 13:15
Interesting!

Chock to chock time Cairns Osaka is 7 hours 10 minutes.

Best

EWL

Ultralights
15th Jan 2005, 21:36
which is four hours from Cairn-not within four hours in terms of time zone

if thats QF's logic, then the 744's on the HNL LAX route would almost have -ve hours!!
depart monday evening, arrive Monday morning! at least a 8hr Negative flight! think of the saving on maintainance!!! and if staff are working -ve hours shouldnt they be Paying the company?

better stop now before i give their fruitcake managers any ideas!

rescue 1
17th Jan 2005, 09:29
The continued push by the QF decision makers to erode the best asset that Qantas has - its name, is astounding.

The market value surely must be sliding...