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goldeneye
6th Dec 2004, 15:06
From Times online December 5 2004Scotland: Dream deal for Scots firm
Robert Ballantyne, Business Editor Scotland



FLYGLOBESPAN, the Scots airline that specialises in direct international routes from Glasgow and Edinburgh, is in talks with Boeing to become one of the launch customers for its radical new 7E7 Dreamliner.
Negotiations for at least two of the next-generation aircraft are continuing, with delivery likely within two years. The move would add two state-of-the-art, large long-haul aircraft to Flyglobespan’s fleet of eight 737s, allowing the airline to offer direct services from Scotland to America’s West Coast, South Africa and the Far East.



Tom Dalrymple, the airline’s founder, owner and chief executive, said the high-tech Dreamliner with its lighter weight, low noise, and fuel efficiency meant that his airline had to be at the front of the queue. “It’s the only place to be,” he said. “The gas-guzzlers are going to be priced out of the sky.”

With aviation fuel prices set to stay high, the 7E7 gave a crucial advantage to low-cost online medium to long-haul airlines like Flyglobespan. “It’s staring you in the face,” he said. “The only thing that’s being debated is the price.”

The ultra-efficient Dreamliner comes with larger seats, bigger windows and claims 20% better fuel efficiency than its older competitors.

Seattle-based Boeing is coming north of the border corporately for the first time tomorrow with a marketing presentation to airlines, airports, politicians and businessmen on the benefits of the Dreamliner.

Dalrymple said the Dreamliner would allow a much wider range of destinations to be added from Edinburgh and Glasgow. Flyglobespan, which at present takes bookings to Canada through Air Transat, would be looking to be on the North Atlantic on its own account by winter 2006.

Heres the link if you want to look at it.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-1388398,00.html

brabazon
6th Dec 2004, 15:23
If Boeing are going to meet the 200 orders by the end of the year they'll need a few big orders.

Oshkosh George
6th Dec 2004, 15:32
I think they must have something in the pipeline,they wouldn't want egg on their faces! (Boeing,I mean!)

Eff Oh
6th Dec 2004, 17:20
:ok: You got to admire the balls on them! Good luck to them! :p

ajamieson
6th Dec 2004, 17:32
The article above makes a rather fundamental error; the 7E7 will not be delivered to its first worldwide launch customer (ANA, as it happens) until 2008. That leaves an unexplained gap or at least three years, during which Flyglobespan wants to fly long-haul from Scotland.

Mr Dalrymple will shortly be buying some other Boeing long haul aircraft in addition to his planned new 737s, which are leased.

Yup, he's ambitious ;)

nickmanl
6th Dec 2004, 20:49
If FlyGlobespan are attempting to follow the low cost model, won't they go a little belly-up if they start getting involved with long haul flights?

Mark McG
6th Dec 2004, 21:29
The Globespan Group have been involved in Longhaul flights for years - they sell all the seats ex UK on the Air Transat UK-Canada flights.

Cyrano
7th Dec 2004, 07:06
How about the 737-800s which are coming into the fleet next spring/summer? Would they be capable of Scotland to Boston or Toronto or (perhaps) NYC?

C.

brabazon
7th Dec 2004, 08:17
Cyrano

Do you know which MTOW option flyglobepan are going for and are they going for the Ryanair 189 seat config? Boeing's payload-range for the 737-800 seems to indicate that east coast US may be possible, but only with highest MTOW and with favourable winds.....

Phil Dubai
7th Dec 2004, 08:19
FlyGlobespan will op 2x 777 from 2006-2009, both to be based at GLA. They will be replaced by 7E7s in 2009-2010! :D

Cyrano
7th Dec 2004, 08:28
Brabazon:

I don't know which MTOW option they are getting, but I know that the idea of using the aircraft transatlantic has definitely been in their minds.

db767
7th Dec 2004, 08:59
“The gas-guzzlers are going to be priced out of the sky.”

This coming from the company that has been in talks with MyTravel for the past couple of months about taking over their retired DC10-30!