National Day of Inaction this weekend, Who is in?

[Sunfish]

Moi, I plan to have a nice lunch at the yacht club with me mates and with plenty of red wine.:ok:

[tobzalp]

Damnit read the title plazbot you fool!

[No Further Requirements]

Day off for me. I will be sampling some fine food and wine in the Macedon Ranges.

Mmmmm......food and wine......

NFR.

[The_Cutest_of_Borg]

My Apathy Club has a function organised. Only problem is that I will be thrown out of the club if I turn up!

It would be a real dilemma if I gave a damn...

[DirtyPierre]

Fortunately, on Nov 27, I start two weeks leave in Yamba NSW for 14 days of sun, surf and ....... well more surf.

Good luck guys, I'll be thinking of you.

[Feather #3]

If I were flying anywhere in NSW on Saturday, it would be to Temora to watch the show at the Museum! :D

AOPA seem to advise locations entirely circumferal [no pun intended!] to Temora. Funny mob.

G'day ;)

[tipsy]

AOPA a "funny mob", no not funny actually, just unrepresentative.

Couldn't top the suggestion to go to Temora and see real maintenance, operational and promotional skills in action.

tipsy

[VH-Cheer Up]

But if a Cessna lands at a remote airstrip and nobody is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

[gaunty]

VH-Cheer Up

tres' droll mon ami.;)

Depends on whether it was pre or post 2b implementation. :p :E

[Ultralights]

If I were flying anywhere in NSW on Saturday, it would be to Temora to watch the show at the Museum!

I am planning that exact same trip, departing YHOX sadly i planned this trip long before the "national day of action/inaction" was declared.

Just look for phoenix aero club archer.

[karrank]

Motorbicycling around the hills of Gippsland myself. Getting shattered on rum in Licola (again), don't forget to ask for a transponder check or two.

Temora sounds good, a bit of planning would have made an AOPA run out of it. Instead of munching a sausage with 4 other bitter cahnts in a paddock somewhere they could have been using their aircraft for niceness, and enjoying themselves...

This is the year (as in next) Karrank% learns to fly. If I had to join AOPA to do it I'd learn to drive a boat instead.

[Binoculars]

Yeah, weekend off, I'll be in it. Let's see, daughter's graduation Friday night, not much chance for a big night there. :(

Weekend, Australian Open golf plus the cricket Test against the Kiwis. Golf might be a better bet there, it has to last till Sunday afternoon. :p

Must remember to raise a glass to both the faithful up there flying around for whatever reason. Onya Dick, onya Boyd, onya Murph!

[Blastoid]

stop gloating guys, some of us drew the short straw! :{

[Feather #3]

For those taking up my suggestion, just got an em from the Museum at Temora advising that the locust plague in the Temora Shire may mean cancelling the Flying Day/s.

Might pay to give them a call Friday afternoon if you're planning to go!! :uhoh:

G'day ;)

[Uncommon Sense]

Looks like everybody chose a day of inaction.

The support for opposition to the rollback was ... underwhelming.

Probably a reflection of the true impact to GA/PVT of the insignificance of the changes in terms of freedoms to fly.

So, it's not the airspace - may I suggest it yet again - the charging system / taxes / privatised airports?

[grrowler]

Well I had the privilege of being in the skys around WG on saturday, and not saying I'm perfect but there was more than the usual amount of wallies in the air. It really concerns me when people who are completely situationally and regulatorily unaware insist on flying. If you want to make a stand for GA and attempt to show how "bad" the airspace is, at least operate according to those rules.

But they weren't all PVT/ GA either :eek: :suspect:

[Ultralights]

returned from a lovely flight YHOX- Temora- YHOX smmoth as silk above the inversion layer! but that last 200 ft into temora was, well, interesting! i dont believe i have ever seen so many bug hits on an aircraft in my life, almost the entire leading edges were yellow from locust guts! add with that a little moisture from cloud approaching YHOX and you have yourself some very interesting slipstream effects without the wind tunnel inks!

With reguards to the national day of action, NO ONE i talked to at YHOX knew what i was talking about! yes, hoxton was unusually busy, but then again, it was brilliant flying weather! If the extra air traffic was a result of the national day of whatever, all it did was remind me what it was like to fly 10 yrs ago, when there was 5 aircraft in the circuit and a constant stream of aircraft approaching and departing It was a flashback to the good ole days where there were plenty of students and a lot more people flying for FUN!

[Pinky the pilot]

Out at the local airfield the Pawnee glider tug is busy towing gliders into a 40c day but other than that it's fairly quiet here. And I'm about to sample a good Cab Sav!:ok:

You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.

[tobzalp]

Hi

I will cross post for Bob becuase this post makes no sense to me

What chance have you got ?

Whatever you do, don't do the sensible thing like file a flight plan and fly legally and sensibly, ask for transponder checks or even use the radio if you are up to your neck in having fun on the National Day of Action.

It's important that AOPA are seen to be fools.

From a poster on our very own www.agacf.org and www.pprune.org

Returned from a lovely flight YHOX- Temora- YHOX smooth as silk above the inversion layer! but that last 200 ft into Temora was, well, interesting! I dont believe I have ever seen so many bug hits on an aircraft in my life, almost the entire leading edges were yellow from locust guts! add with that a little moisture from cloud approaching YHOX and you have yourself some very interesting slipstream effects without the wind tunnel ?!

With reguards to the national day of action, NO ONE I talked to at YHOX knew what I was talking about! yes, Hoxton was unusually busy, but then again, it was brilliant flying weather! If the extra air traffic was a result of the national day of whatever, all it did was remind me what it was like to fly 10 yrs ago, when there was 5 aircraft in the circuit and a constant stream of aircraft approaching and departing It was a flashback to the good ole days where there were plenty of students and a lot more people flying for FUN!

Struth,

Especially since the National day of Action mentioned filing flight plans, you, Mate, may have noticed this well circulated gem in the form of a NOTAM which would be present in one form or another and whether Temora were flying or not. It may also explain why "nobody you spoke to at Hoxton Park" wanted to talk to you about the NDA.



"Temora Aviation Museum flying activity this weekend may be cancelled due to the locust plague.

Currently a locust plague is moving through
the Temora Shire and may prevent flying activity.

The Museum has
prepared its aircraft and crew for the weekends events however flying
will depend on local conditions on the day".

Crikey,

It amazes he he wasn't hit by a jet, let alone a grasshopper.

This thing reminds me of the bad old days when we hated ultralights and they hated us. This bloke is an engineer by his own admission and could even be an AOPA member. I wonder if he had a passenger to share this amazing experience with him. I wonder if he talked to anyone while he was "stooging" around over Bindook above the inversion layer. That is, if he did take the most direct route over the worst "tiger country" in Australia.

Airmanship aside, this bloke is accepted persona at that anonomous site where common sense is consigned to the "ridicule-then trash bin". Professional Pilot's apparantly them all.

Would the Author like to comment while he is still in one piece?

[OpsNormal]

Gee, all those 'yellow' leading edges from a grasshopper 'plague' in the green SE.

Geez, come fly across most of the interior area within the tropics during the tail end of the wet season day in day out. Then you'll be able to say you've seen a few "grasshoppers".

The word "pizza" springs to mind, and trying to clean it off the screen/oil cooler/every leading edge at each stop on a mailrun. All part of the wonderful world of GA that certain city based elements don't see.

Regards,

OpsN.;)

[Creampuff]

Hey Bob

As it appears you’ve decided to set yourself up as a public commentator on others’ airmanship, I’m wondering if you could let us know:

- how many hours in command you’ve flown in the last 12 months; and

- what mistakes you’ve made during that flying.

I’m just trying to work out if your propensity to cast the first stone arises from saintliness or silliness.

[Sunfish]

Oh Gaaaaawd!! Where is a Woomeri when you need one?

[karrank]

I think I've figgerd out Bob's reasonably incomprehensibile post. Poor old ultralights has incurred his displeasure by daring to fly on the DAY OF INACTION without actually supporting... erm... whatever it was about. With all those wombats who haven't turned a prop in years flying about randomly being polite to controllers and REALLY making sure their transponders are working, somebody just flying about normally could have pushed the airspace system over the edge into flying gridlock.

Naughty boy:rolleyes:

From our side of the screen, no effect, no noticeable increase in traffic. If this is worst loading GA can put upon the system, the C172 version of riding treadlies through the Domain tunnel, then ROADBLOCK airspace was well able to cope with your demands.

THERE IS NO PROBLEM, why keep trying solutions?

[Woomera]

Woomera present and on duty with a watching brief! :}

You are all doing OK without my intervention. :ok:

Woomera

[Ultralights]

Fact! I was flying a Piper Archer! 4 souls on board!

Fact! a Flight plan WAS submitted!

Fact! NOTAMS reported "possible" Locust activity

Fact! flight was planned 2 months ago!

Fact! i have held a PPL for over 16 Yrs!

Fact! I have an RAA Licence! and am a current member of the RAA

Fact, i have NEVER been and dont plan on being a member of the AOPA

So i am in the fortunate position to see both sides of the argument.
as fas as NAS and NDA is concerned, i dont give a s**t as long as it get SORTED OUT! and not at a rediculous cost!

so before you go critising my airmanship, which i feel to be pretty profeesional for my 500 Hrs! tell us a bit about yourself!

sure this is a anonamous forum, but people that know me will recognise me on here as well. i have nothing to hide!

my cooment on the lack of knoledge about the NDA confirmed my feeling that the NDA is an issue here and with AOPA than anywhere else, as most people i talk to at the airfeilds i regularly visit are only interested in Flying and couldnt be bothered wasting time taslking about the NAS or the NDA just as i am going to stop wasting my time in response to you tobzalp Pull your head in mate and get a life outside your NAS dominated world!

[Wizofoz]

Errr...Ultralight,

tobzalp was re-posting an entry from Bob Murphy on their site. I think everyone here has appreciated your balanced and neutraL posts. Putting it here was meant to highlight the go-for-the-throat mentality of certain people should their position be critisised or challenged.

Your anger is totally justified, but mis-directed.

[Ultralights]

my apolgies to tobzalp.


hmmmm i just discovered the post on agacf.org, interesting. aparently im anti AOPA! to put it simply, the AOPA doesnt interest me. and all i hear about around the traps is issues with board members or whatever. I am very happy with what the RAA (AUF) have done and have been doing for the past 5 yrs i have been a member and that is that.

some people are very touchy when you dont follow or 100% support their view.

as far as im concerned, all i want to do i fly! either my personal aircraft or hired aircraft capable of carrying my friends away on weekend trip to wherever it is we wish to go! as far as the NAS! i gave up long ago, too much BS, to confusing, and all it is doing is costing me money to constantly update charts and docs! (some i have never had the chance to use) refer to above! i just want to fly!


i have to laugh about the transponder incident! my Preflight is bad!!! BWHAHAHAHH how about i unscrew your transponder arial, insert a piece of painted masking tape, the EXACT diameter of the hole, and re-install the antenna! see if YOU find it!

This sort of Infighting is the EXACT reason we are having so much difficulty getting anything done.!!!!

time to stop as all comment or any whif of NAS or NDA whatever just causes yet more bickering.






time for a few circuits before last light! or will i get grilled for that as well! and yes, it will be in MY aircraft!

[tobzalp]

http://www.aimoo.com/forum/postview.cfm?id=421403&startcat=1&start=1&CategoryID=268569&ThreadID=1801747


booyah!!!!!



eabod

[gaunty]

tobzalp

That's the beauty of this internet thing eh!, it allows oneself to plumb the depth of ones intelect for all to see. For some it is even difficult to get the soles of ones feet wet.:p

Accounts? If I thought Woomera would allow me the bandwidth, I would post them for all to see. Might have to set them up on a link to a web page instead, they have been trying to hide them for the last 8 months.