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UAE
8th Nov 2004, 15:18
I would just like to know if anyone is familiar with the legal flying hours within the UAE.
At Etihad the crew are working constantly up to 170 hours a month. For Example doing a LHR flight then getting back in the morning time and then that evening going to BKK and then when they get back from BKK having 1 day off and then LHR again and when they get back from LHR in the morning having BOM that evening and then BOM the following evening and so on and so on.
All the crew are exhausted with it and management I dont think seem to relise it, after alot of crew have complained and the CM's also writing reports.
One crew a few weeks ago even deployed a slide because she had gotton back from a night flight in the morning and then was operating a BOM flight that evening. But Im sure she had been already flying long hours prior to that which had knocked her body out of sorts.
All the crew are constantly tired, look tired and not able to deliver the service that is expected from management from all of this flying.

So if someone can just advise me if all of this flying is legal it would be great.

Buster738
9th Nov 2004, 01:35
UAE the information you require is available in your own Airline's OM-A, Chapter 7 and also in your Cabin Crew Manual Section 1. Hope you have the time to read up on this between your sooo busy schedule, but perhaps you are new to aviation? Best of Luck
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yyzdub
9th Nov 2004, 08:49
Could be off here and not sure what applies to the UAE and other states but I thought 900 hrs was pretty much the maximum norm per year. If what UAE is saying of flying 170hrs/month is true, that would be over 2000hrs a year which I am certain is not legal.

phoenix son
9th Nov 2004, 09:06
UAE, all,

CAP371 in the UK states that the maximum FDP allowed over a period of 12 months is 900 hours. Maximum over a 28-day period is 190 hours, so "constantly" working 170 hours a month simply does not add up...And I'm sure the Middle Eastern FDP rules don't allow more than double the hours worked by their UK counterparts?

PHX

Big Bus Boy
9th Nov 2004, 09:26
The UAE works as far as i know to CAP 371, and follows all the same rules, so 900 hours a year etc.. not sure if its the same for cabin crew but i guess so.
The 170 hours your talking about is duty hours not FDP. Now i'm no expert but duty hours contains all the layovers etc etc, but FDP is limited because then you are actually working on a plane, think thats right.
As stated in the other posts its all written down in the magic section 7.
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mogley
10th Nov 2004, 23:43
Hi UAE, I hope you are talking about duty hours!!! Otherwise these guys are killing you!!!!! Anyway for info just down the road from you we are limited to 193 DUTY hours every 28 days & 1800 DUTY hours for 13 consecutive rosters. These are not to be confused with FLYING hours as one can easily do 150 hours DUTY but only 80 FLYING hours.
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