Flyblu

[Confirmed Must Ride]

I see Flyblu have changed their name.....to.......Flywho !!

[trays4takeoff]

This has to be a joke surely?

If this is true, it just goes to show that the whole flyblu/blu arrow/flywho project is nothing more than a p:mad: :mad: s take! Obviously someone has too much time on their hands and too much spare cash and decided to play "pretend airline". Who in heavens name will take them seriously with a name like that?

I noticed if you type www.flywho.com it does actually take you to their homepage, still says flyblu on it though.

I really do feel sorry for them if they are serious because they have about as much street cred as that outfit "skybus" from LTN a few years back. That was B767's and a new concept from what I remember but where are they now? Nowhere!

Maybe its the same people behind flywho trying it again?

[330-Purser]

I think Fly Hoop would be more appropriate for these guys

lololol!!!!!


:p :p :p

[jabird]

Apparently this is serious. I saw them at WTM, and asked if this was just the name they had to use to rent the stand, and if they would be announcing their actual name later on at the show.

I was told that flywho was their actual name.

[jabird]

Ok, leaving the name aside for one moment.

How are they going to get bums on seats when their minimum seat pitch is 38", and this has to be borne out by higher ticket costs?

From any London airport, maybe, but from the regions, is there really a niche for this premium service, without offering a more basic economy product?

I just feel that the business plan is flawed for that reason.

However, I for one would be happy to be proven wrong, for two big reasons:

1) It will be good for the Midlands to have our own unique link to Florida.
2) It will buck the trend when so much else is going downmarket.

[jabird]

Inspirational,

Come on, you'll need to put some figures behind that claim. To whom, for which dates, and to where? According to their website, seats don't go on sale until 15th Dec.

Most people haven't even heard of Flyblu (or Flywho) yet, they haven't been able to advertise without an operators' licence, and there's nothing about them on their home hub's website.

As I said, I want to be proven wrong on this one! I'll go and get myself a sugar-coated hat, so at least it will taste nice if I do have to eat it.

[trays4takeoff]

all seats sold for next year..............so there!!!!

Nice to know you can go on sale and take peoples money without a licence these days then?

I doubt very much this claim is true. If it is, maybe the CAA would have something to say about it!

Do I detect a little in-house PR on this thread I wonder?

[PPRuNe Pop]

I would suggest that this thread is kept cool guys. We are talking hypothetical here and some of the claims being made are ridiculous. For one, seats CANNOT be sold that don't exist, and they cannot exist without being a fully accredited airline.

So no more speculation until blu/who is up and running.

PPP

[330-Purser]

I'm not speculating PPP, I just can't stop laughing at that ridiculous new name!

:D

[Daza]

The Airline IS called Flyblu check their website Flyblu.com.
Daza

[InFinRetirement]

No matter 330, in all these situations time will tell. It always does - one way or the other........

[Navy_Adversary]

I thought that when this 'New' airline was first floated that flights would commence from BHX to Florida during the summer of 2004:confused:

[330-Purser]

I think this is their 3rd or 4th attempt at starting Navy. Not bad considering the main founders/directors have no airline experience though. :=

[Mike16]

Hi Guys

If i were you, i would stay away from them, they seem very dodgy i applied to them last year as crew as was passed from pillar to post, i also rang BIrmingham airport last september about them and was put through to there media office who said they had never heard of them ?
A biut strange saying they are meant to be flying from here ?


Take care


Michael

[oncemorealoft]

I saw their stand at World Travel Market yesterday. This states FlyWho formerly known as FlyBlu.

Also, the stand featured a photo of an A310 in FlyWho colours although last time I looked their web site said they would be flying B767s.

Thanks Localiser Green! Knew I should have got my dickchenary out!

[Localiser Green]

This states FlyWho formally known as FlyBlu

formally (officially) or formerly (previously)?

[Thunderball 2]

I've always been a supporter of Flyblu on principle - the airline business will never stop needing new energy and new ideas - and because, from what I could see, they seemed competent, focused and genuine. And don't let anyone say that all the good business concepts and niche markets have been filled - they most certainly haven't.

But, sorry - are we SERIOUSLY saying that they were promoting "FlyWho" as the name at WTM? As a product name in a highly sophisticated, safety/security conscious sector of industry, it is fully-paid-up, certifiably, twice-round-the-block barmy. In fact it probably renders the senior management Sectionable under the Mental Health Act.

When the Chinese launched an indigenous car design back in the '70s, they called it "The Cedric". They still use the name - you see new "Cedrics" quite often in the PRC. I used to think that it would be nice to have an annual Cedric Award for the daftest product name, although that's probably a bit unfair on the Chinese - I might not come up with a particular snappy name if I was asked to use a Cantonese christian name for a British car. But that's all academic; if they go ahead with FlyWho, then "move over Cedric". And let's get Jonathon Ross to host the Annual FlyWho Awards ceremony.
:)

[loveJet]

... i think FLYBYE would be more appropiate.

They aint gonna make an impact...

Jet

[niceguy]

Cant resist having a small chuckle. "It will never work!!!" says one. "Are they certifiably insane???" asks another. Maybe.

Someone tell me why WHO is any more stupid than Song, Jazz, Go, Now, Buzz, Zoom and the list goes on.

This negaitive vibe is just so typical of you wasters who (obviously) know far more than the guys who are actully very sharp and succesful at the top of this small tree.

Isnt it just possible that these guys have a marketing plan that is WAY better than any ideas that an unemployed cabin crew hopeful might be able to invent? Perhaps you should apply for jobs as senior executives in sales and marketing since you can do a better job than the team they have now!

As for the venture being doomed, we can only wait and see, but give them their due, they are still here and are still spending BIG money selling the concept. Dont ever remember seeing this much from Now or Blue Fox (was everyone so negative about this name? - what have foxes to do with airlines eh?).

Last year at WTM FlyBlu had a tiny stand. I saw it. Cute little girl in uniform and a very little team. Then they put up the biggest stand of the show at NEC with a big team and a huge crowd showing big interest and now they have a fairly impressive stand at WTM again with a big team and a lot of interest. Maybe the guys behind it just dont know what to do with their money. That is possible I suppose, but what I saw looked damn good, as did the line of industry worthies wanting to meet with them.

I hope they make it big because few things would give me more pleasure than to see you cynics proved wrong and then turned down for jobs! Eat dirt !

p.s. Before you start up again about me being on the staff, my current employer is not even nearly blue and never has been.

[Audreyslackey]

Hmmmm, spending money on advertising but don't appear to have enough to get their own AOC or ATOL. Priorities!

[Nato 35]

Hey Audrey get a grip, if you knew anythin about the business you would know what it took to get an AOC

edited for personal attacks. PPRuNe Pop has already issued a warning about this thread. Please take note. H.

[flower]

I have related this story before i know but do believe its still relevant.
Some time back working at Birmingham we accepted a diversion in from Luton, none of us had heard of them some tiny outfit called easy Jet. The concept of LoCo was very new in the UK. All the comments around the Tower were along the lines of " never going to work " " I give them 3 months max" etc etc.
Well here we are a few years down the line and look how successful they are.
Some will fail and some will be an outstanding success, most of us on here havent a clue about running or starting an airline up so who are we to know.

Regarding the name , yes I agree bizarre but that i would think is the whole point isn't it. The name is a marketing dream, you won't forget it easily will you.

As with every new airline that starts up I wish them every success

[jabird]

Just Googled Flywho, and got Flybe and Virgin Atlantic. Apparently, Flywho.com is up for sale to any speculators out there.

They really ought to get these basics in order if they are serious about putting bums on seats.

(The correct site is at http://www.flywho.co.uk/, but that is not obvious to the average punter).

[TwinAisle]

Funny - both .com and .co.uk seem to be registered to BluArrow Aviation, according to uk2.net.

Perhaps they are getting the basics right after all....

;)

[jabird]

Yes, fair point, so not sure how the other site was trying to sell it. Was being too lazy to check that. But they still need to get their site found if they want any passengers.

[warkman]

Thunderball2

Cedric is a Nissan car, not Chinese.

It is a large seller in the Japanese home market.

[trays4takeoff]

Apparently, flywho/flyblu have written to all their interested customers today with the following statement:

"We fully intend to have all of our operating and commercial licences in place and to be "in the air" for the summer season 2005, but anyone hoping to travel before July will not now be able to do so with us"

Yet another delay... I think it's about time someone shut the doors in their offices and switched the lights off as they clearly haven't resolved their problems. Anyone thinking "Now Airlines 2"???

[The Flying Lip]

Did they turn you down for a job?

Give them a break - why do you insist on pouring scorn on people who are doing their best to start something new, interesting and - who knows - profitable - that may give work to people?

Give it a rest, Cynic.

TFL

[jmc757]

From their website:

Our new website will go live by December 14th with an active booking front end

Well I make it the 14th today... and absolutely nothing has happened!

[VIKING9]

jmc757 you sound surprised ! My money is on this company NOT getting airborne.

[jabird]

Just on a technical point, could people end up losing serious money to these guys? If you pay £5 for an EU Jet flight, and they go belly up, all you lose is £5 + the tax (unless you are already on the move). But Flyblu are pitching at the other end of the market. If they still impose a credit card handling fee, some will pay by debit card, and might well lose their cash. Or would they have some form of bonding protection?

If they ever go on sale of course.

[Harrier46]

jabird

It is the bonding requirement which is holding things up. They either have to have an ATOL licence and bond or an AOC, which brings with it even stricter financial requirements. Which is why there are so many proposed airlines these days and so few actually taking off. The rules are set to be tightened up still further in the next year or two so the numbers will drop even more.

[future_pilot17]

Well the website isnt fully operational but if you look now the name has changed and the website looks lik it should be up and running shortly....:ok:

http://www.flywho.com/

[330-Purser]

There seems to be a lot of "should be soon's" with this airline, this is dejavu from last year all over again :*

[teachin]

Like "NOW Airlines"...crap